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Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Hi,
Catalan Valencia RACV is now 100% UI translated but it is a new language
that we had never released before. This means there is some more work
necessary and I am not sure if the change I have made are enough. A
first est version for MacOS is available under [1].
I will prepare a Windows and Linux test version as well, this versions
are all based on trunk. If it works and the builds are usable I will
merge it for AOO 4.1.1
Windows and Linux will be available later today or on Monday.
But does it make sense to use the ca help translation instead of having
a plain English help?
Juergen
[1]
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_MacOS_x86-64_install_ca-XR.dmg
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 19/07/14 01:35, Software Valencià wrote:
> Jürgen those are our translations (ca-XR), I have tried the Windows
> version and all programs started well, the only issue I found is, as
> Andrea says, that our translation in Options is listed as "Català" when
> should display "Valencian (RACV)", if this is corrected will be perfect!
Good to know that it works in general.
I currently don't know how to fix it and have to check the code in more
detail. But I have limited time at the moment and any kind of help would
appreciated, I can't promise a fix from my side.
Juergen
>
> In addition, we have spellchecker and synonyms dictioanries, could they
> be added to our individual release?
>
> Thanks for your work!
>
> El 18/07/2014 14:44, Jürgen Schmidt escribió:
>> On 18/07/14 13:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If possible please check it asap ...
>>> Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
>>> installation succeeded.
>>>
>>> The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
>>> VM is setup).
>> I don't know
>>
>>> Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
>>> ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
>>> comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
>>> operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this
>>> helps.
>>>
>> the same for me, the native speakers have to review it
>>
>> A Windows archive version is now also available under
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Win_x86_install-arc_ca-XR.zip
>>
>>
>> I will merge it on the branch and if the lang community says it's ok we
>> can release it, otherwise not.
>>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 19/07/2014 Software Valencià wrote:
> I'm agree with you, global code is "ca" due to standards. Following this
> rule we have a spell checker in http://extensions.openoffice.org since
> 2008.
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/valencian-spellchecker-dictionary-llenguaitecnologia
Done in trunk (so, this is already done for the future major version,
like 4.2.0). I've requested porting to 4.1.1 to have it in 4.1.1 too, follow
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125285
for more information.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Software Valencià <in...@softwarevalencia.com>.
I'm agree with you, global code is "ca" due to standards. Following this
rule we have a spell checker in http://extensions.openoffice.org since 2008.
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/valencian-spellchecker-dictionary-llenguaitecnologia
Thanks
El 19/07/2014 13:03, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
> Software Valencià wrote:
>> In addition, we have spellchecker and synonyms dictioanries, could they
>> be added to our individual release?
>
> The deadline for that was yesterday, but I can still include them in
> trunk (our "work in progress" version) if we manage to get them during
> this weekend and then we can see whether to include them in 4.1.1 as a
> low-risk update.
>
> The main issue I see is that the document language is set to Catalan
> ("ca", both for ca-XV and ca-XR) since we can't set a "private" code
> for a document language due to interoperability reasons. To put it
> simple: the UI translation is not a problem, but the produced document
> must respect limitations set in standards.
>
> So, for the dictionaries to work, you should prepare them so that they
> are for the "ca" language and not "ca-XR". You must also host them as
> extensions at http://extensions.openoffice.org/ and upload the
> releases there, since we will download them at build time. Please ask
> if you need further details (about the OXT packaging or the site), or
> just send the link here.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Software Valencià wrote:
> In addition, we have spellchecker and synonyms dictioanries, could they
> be added to our individual release?
The deadline for that was yesterday, but I can still include them in
trunk (our "work in progress" version) if we manage to get them during
this weekend and then we can see whether to include them in 4.1.1 as a
low-risk update.
The main issue I see is that the document language is set to Catalan
("ca", both for ca-XV and ca-XR) since we can't set a "private" code for
a document language due to interoperability reasons. To put it simple:
the UI translation is not a problem, but the produced document must
respect limitations set in standards.
So, for the dictionaries to work, you should prepare them so that they
are for the "ca" language and not "ca-XR". You must also host them as
extensions at http://extensions.openoffice.org/ and upload the releases
there, since we will download them at build time. Please ask if you need
further details (about the OXT packaging or the site), or just send the
link here.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Software Valencià <in...@softwarevalencia.com>.
Jürgen those are our translations (ca-XR), I have tried the Windows
version and all programs started well, the only issue I found is, as
Andrea says, that our translation in Options is listed as "Català" when
should display "Valencian (RACV)", if this is corrected will be perfect!
In addition, we have spellchecker and synonyms dictioanries, could they
be added to our individual release?
Thanks for your work!
El 18/07/2014 14:44, Jürgen Schmidt escribió:
> On 18/07/14 13:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
>>>
>>> If possible please check it asap ...
>> Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
>> installation succeeded.
>>
>> The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
>>
>>
>> is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
>> VM is setup).
> I don't know
>
>> Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
>> ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
>> comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
>> operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this helps.
>>
> the same for me, the native speakers have to review it
>
> A Windows archive version is now also available under
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Win_x86_install-arc_ca-XR.zip
>
> I will merge it on the branch and if the lang community says it's ok we
> can release it, otherwise not.
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Software Valencià <in...@softwarevalencia.com>.
Bon dia (Good morning) Jordi,
as Jürgen said the Windows is an archive version so you need to extract
contents to a folder and them run executable files (sbase.exe,
scalc.exe, sdraw.exe, simpress.exe, smath.exe, swriter.exe) or the main
menu "soffice.exe".
Vicent
El 18/07/2014 19:22, Jordi Codina escribió:
> I am not sure if this was expected but I find this acceptable, looking at
> the screenshot you sent.
>
> I am not able to install the Windows archive version. I did not find in
> Google how to install that, as I am missing the setup.exe file which I find
> usually in the installable version.
>
> Best ergards,
> Jordi
>
>
> 2014-07-18 14:44 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On 18/07/14 13:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
>>>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
>>>> If possible please check it asap ...
>>> Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
>>> installation succeeded.
>>>
>>> The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
>>>
>>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
>>>
>>> is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
>>> VM is setup).
>> I don't know
>>
>>> Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
>>> ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
>>> comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
>>> operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this
>> helps.
>> the same for me, the native speakers have to review it
>>
>> A Windows archive version is now also available under
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Win_x86_install-arc_ca-XR.zip
>>
>> I will merge it on the branch and if the lang community says it's ok we
>> can release it, otherwise not.
>>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Jordi Codina <jo...@codina.info>.
I am not sure if this was expected but I find this acceptable, looking at
the screenshot you sent.
I am not able to install the Windows archive version. I did not find in
Google how to install that, as I am missing the setup.exe file which I find
usually in the installable version.
Best ergards,
Jordi
2014-07-18 14:44 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>:
> On 18/07/14 13:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
> >>
> >> If possible please check it asap ...
> >
> > Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
> > installation succeeded.
> >
> > The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
> >
> >
> > is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
> > VM is setup).
>
> I don't know
>
> >
> > Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
> > ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
> > comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
> > operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this
> helps.
> >
>
> the same for me, the native speakers have to review it
>
> A Windows archive version is now also available under
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Win_x86_install-arc_ca-XR.zip
>
> I will merge it on the branch and if the lang community says it's ok we
> can release it, otherwise not.
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Andrea.
> >
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 18/07/14 13:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
>>
>> If possible please check it asap ...
>
> Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
> installation succeeded.
>
> The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
>
>
> is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
> VM is setup).
I don't know
>
> Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
> ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
> comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
> operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this helps.
>
the same for me, the native speakers have to review it
A Windows archive version is now also available under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Win_x86_install-arc_ca-XR.zip
I will merge it on the branch and if the lang community says it's ok we
can release it, otherwise not.
Juergen
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 18/07/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
> If possible please check it asap ...
Thanks a lot. I installed it on an Ubuntu virtual machine and the
installation succeeded.
The Language in Options was listed at "Català" though:
http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2014-07-l10n-ca-xr/screenshot-ca-xr-options.png
is that expected? (Italian as default locale is normal; that's how the
VM is setup).
Of course, I don't know differences well enough to notice if this is the
ca, ca-xv or ca-xr translation; we'll need the relevant volunteers to
comment on that. But if you were interested in knowing if it started and
operated normally, it does. I can take any other screenshots if this helps.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 18/07/14 10:41, Software Valencià wrote:
> Thanks Jürgen,
> don't worry about the help's translation, keep English originals please,
> they are different grammar rules, so it's better for us don't mixing
> them, we will work on it for future versions.
ok
by the way a Linux (deb) version is now available as well
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_ca-XR.tar.gz
If possible please check it asap ...
Windows is still building
Juergen
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Vicent
>
> El 18/07/2014 8:10, Jürgen Schmidt escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Catalan Valencia RACV is now 100% UI translated but it is a new language
>> that we had never released before. This means there is some more work
>> necessary and I am not sure if the change I have made are enough. A
>> first est version for MacOS is available under [1].
>>
>> I will prepare a Windows and Linux test version as well, this versions
>> are all based on trunk. If it works and the builds are usable I will
>> merge it for AOO 4.1.1
>>
>> Windows and Linux will be available later today or on Monday.
>>
>> But does it make sense to use the ca help translation instead of having
>> a plain English help?
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_MacOS_x86-64_install_ca-XR.dmg
>>
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Re: Catalan Valencia RACV (ca-XR) test version for MacOS available
Posted by Software Valencià <in...@softwarevalencia.com>.
Thanks Jürgen,
don't worry about the help's translation, keep English originals please,
they are different grammar rules, so it's better for us don't mixing
them, we will work on it for future versions.
Thanks a lot,
Vicent
El 18/07/2014 8:10, Jürgen Schmidt escribió:
> Hi,
>
> Catalan Valencia RACV is now 100% UI translated but it is a new language
> that we had never released before. This means there is some more work
> necessary and I am not sure if the change I have made are enough. A
> first est version for MacOS is available under [1].
>
> I will prepare a Windows and Linux test version as well, this versions
> are all based on trunk. If it works and the builds are usable I will
> merge it for AOO 4.1.1
>
> Windows and Linux will be available later today or on Monday.
>
> But does it make sense to use the ca help translation instead of having
> a plain English help?
>
> Juergen
>
>
> [1]
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/translation/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_MacOS_x86-64_install_ca-XR.dmg
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