Size of the binary distribution

[ant elder <an...@gmail.com>]

I had a look at what makes up the size of the binary distribution, here's
some details:

The 1.1 binary distribution is about 65 Meg, of that 50 Meg is from all the
jars in the lib directory, 8.5 Meg is from the calculator webapp
sample, 2.5Meg is from the mortgage loan approval demo doc, and
2.5 Meg is from all the jars in the modules directory.

In the 50 Meg lib directory there are 149 jars, but 25 Meg comes from just
the 13 biggest jars

(These sizes are all the compressed sizes within the archive)

All that gives quite a bit of scope for tweaking, eg if we were to:

- remove the modules folder as they're all in the maven repository
- remove the prebuilt calc webapp sample, we're talking about changing to
use simple contributions jars anyway
- change the mortgage loan approval demo doc to be plain text or point to
the website
- remove all but one of the bundled script language engines (ie JRuby,
Jython and Groovy)
- change wsdl2java to using its own namespace to package name code instead
of using XJC
- (maybe) not include the xmlbeans and xbean jars

That would reduce to distribution size by 27 Meg - from 65 Meg down to 38
Meg.

   ...ant

Re: Size of the binary distribution

[ant elder <an...@apache.org>]

On Jan 24, 2008 7:42 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2008 8:49 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I had a look at what makes up the size of the binary distribution,
> here's
> > some details:
> >
> > The 1.1 binary distribution is about 65 Meg, of that 50 Meg is from all
> the
> > jars in the lib directory, 8.5 Meg is from the calculator webapp
> > sample, 2.5Meg is from the mortgage loan approval demo doc, and
> > 2.5 Meg is from all the jars in the modules directory.
> >
> > In the 50 Meg lib directory there are 149 jars, but 25 Meg comes from
> just
> > the 13 biggest jars
> >
> > (These sizes are all the compressed sizes within the archive)
> >
> > All that gives quite a bit of scope for tweaking, eg if we were to:
> >
> > - remove the modules folder as they're all in the maven repository
>
> What is the side effect of removing this folder ? Would ant scripts
> continue to work ?
>

This is touched in the other threads as as one of the points we need to fix
- people using Tuscany shouldn't have to know about its internals so
application build scripts shouldn't be directly referencing the individual
Tuscany modules.


>
> > - remove the prebuilt calc webapp sample, we're talking about changing
> to
> > use simple contributions jars anyway
> > - change the mortgage loan approval demo doc to be plain text or point
> to
> > the website
> > - remove all but one of the bundled script language engines (ie JRuby,
> > Jython and Groovy)
> > - change wsdl2java to using its own namespace to package name code
> instead
> > of using XJC
> > - (maybe) not include the xmlbeans and xbean jars
>
> xmlBeans and xBean are BPEL/ODE dependencies
>

Is xbean really used by Ode, i've tried removing it and implementation-bpel
still seems to work fine? Our Axis binding was unnecessarily dragging in the
xbean dependency which i've now removed, the only place that I knew of that
we really did use xbean was with E4X when we were on an old Rhino release
but thats not needed in the newer Rhino releases.


> Adding to the list :
>
>   - remove derby dbs ( ~ 4.0 MB each ) from SVN and make the build
> create the necessary dbs.
>

That would be really good, its not great to have the database binaries in
our src.

   ...ant

Re: Size of the binary distribution

[Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>]

On Jan 24, 2008 8:49 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had a look at what makes up the size of the binary distribution, here's
> some details:
>
> The 1.1 binary distribution is about 65 Meg, of that 50 Meg is from all the
> jars in the lib directory, 8.5 Meg is from the calculator webapp
> sample, 2.5Meg is from the mortgage loan approval demo doc, and
> 2.5 Meg is from all the jars in the modules directory.
>
> In the 50 Meg lib directory there are 149 jars, but 25 Meg comes from just
> the 13 biggest jars
>
> (These sizes are all the compressed sizes within the archive)
>
> All that gives quite a bit of scope for tweaking, eg if we were to:
>
> - remove the modules folder as they're all in the maven repository

What is the side effect of removing this folder ? Would ant scripts
continue to work ?

> - remove the prebuilt calc webapp sample, we're talking about changing to
> use simple contributions jars anyway
> - change the mortgage loan approval demo doc to be plain text or point to
> the website
> - remove all but one of the bundled script language engines (ie JRuby,
> Jython and Groovy)
> - change wsdl2java to using its own namespace to package name code instead
> of using XJC
> - (maybe) not include the xmlbeans and xbean jars

xmlBeans and xBean are BPEL/ODE dependencies

Adding to the list :

   - remove derby dbs ( ~ 4.0 MB each ) from SVN and make the build
create the necessary dbs.

>
> That would reduce to distribution size by 27 Meg - from 65 Meg down to 38
> Meg.
>
>    ...ant
>



-- 
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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