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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> on 2012/08/16 01:29:21 UTC
Recruiting more help for the project
> The change is more about the idea that *anything* that gives us a better chance of more people contributing in any way right now is good for us and I believe git will. My original (and somewhat ongoing) concern is that I don't want to take another
> detour. However, with several people volunteering to work on this, I think it can go forward while work continues... So, I will hope someone else votes.
1) Is there a way to tell how many people are on the Flex-Dev mailing list today? Please tell me what the number is.
2) Is there an easy way to determine how many people are participating as commenters? & also participating & contributing code / fixing bugs / providing technical contributions? I hope there is an easier way than me just counting.....
3) How many resources do we need that we do not have today?
4) If you had more technical volunteers what would you advise them do to provide the highest benefit to the project?
Thru our social networks, the Spoon Project ML & Flex User group managers list my marketing colleagues and I were able to get 496 Flex developers to take a survey about Apache Flex 7-26-12 thru today. 238 of those developers said they plan to do more in various ways. The table is provided below. I believe that many of the responses are from those who are not on this list.
Which of the following development priorities for versions of Apache Flex beyond 4.8.0-incubating do you plan to contribute to (contribute code, review code, author wiki, author training, lead webinars, author code examples, testing code, spreading the word) during the next 6-12 months? Choose all that apply:
Answer Options Response Count
4.6 ViewStack 86
4.6 Accordion 50
4.6 DateField 78
4.6 DataChooser 58
4.6 Enhanced DataGrid 91
4.6 missing automation libraries29
4.6 missing fabridge 18
4.6 missing flash-integration 33
4.6 missing samples 53
4.6 missing embedded font support 39
3.x Flex SDK 39
Flex compiler source code 37
BlazeDS/BlazeDS.NET 76
TLF 50
Gravity 20
FXG 59
Squiggles 15
OSMF 42
Other (please specify) 26
answered question 238
skipped question 258
RE: Recruiting more help for the project
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> I'm not really sure what the point of this survey is. When I volunteer my time to this project I spend my time on things that I feel passionate about, things that I want fixed or added. Nobody in the project determines what should be actually worked on
> next, people just start adding. For example Justin just started adding validators, Tink has added other components, etc. I, personally, wouldn't look at this much. I would, however, be more involved with devs that mailed the mailing list and said "I am
> working on X and I need an opinion or help on Y".
>
> -omar
Thanks for the response, Omar. It is true that the most important contributions will come from those we may not know yet who have ideas we haven't thought of. I do understand that this is the power of the ApacheWay. I tweet as @On3solutions and I have been broadcasting Apache Flex activism messages for several months now. I am encouraging those who follow me to comment, contribute, join the mailing list, become a wiki editor, add application examples, and generally recruiting interested parties to get involved. If those most committed members on this list retweeted these Apache Flex recruitment calls to action to their lists of followers, we would add more of this unexpected & most valuable help to the project. It would also be nice if someone [with access] logged into the @ApacheFlex twitter account and retweeted some of the important messages occasionally, too.
Re: Recruiting more help for the project
Posted by Omar Gonzalez <om...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Guthmann, Scott <sguthmann@on3solutions.com
> wrote:
> > The change is more about the idea that *anything* that gives us a better
> chance of more people contributing in any way right now is good for us and
> I believe git will. My original (and somewhat ongoing) concern is that I
> don't want to take another
> > detour. However, with several people volunteering to work on this, I
> think it can go forward while work continues... So, I will hope someone
> else votes.
>
> 1) Is there a way to tell how many people are on the Flex-Dev mailing list
> today? Please tell me what the number is.
>
Bertrand has the link, its in the archive somewhere but I can't search for
that right now, just pointing out its somewhere.
> 2) Is there an easy way to determine how many people are participating as
> commenters? & also participating & contributing code / fixing bugs /
> providing technical contributions? I hope there is an easier way than me
> just counting.....
>
Bertrand also recently posted a link with SVN stats.
> 3) How many resources do we need that we do not have today?
>
Impossible to say. This is a volunteer based project, and its a development
project... you can't just throw more bodies at dev problems and expect to
have a certain result. I don't believe anyone can come up with an answer to
this question, or I think any answer to this question would be nothing
other than conjecture/guessing.
> 4) If you had more technical volunteers what would you advise them do to
> provide the highest benefit to the project?
>
I wouldn't advise them to do anything in particular. I would advise them to
contribute to a part of the project that they feel most passionate about so
that they 1.) have a good time volunteering and 2.) progress a part of the
SDK that they really care about.
>
> Thru our social networks, the Spoon Project ML & Flex User group managers
> list my marketing colleagues and I were able to get 496 Flex developers to
> take a survey about Apache Flex 7-26-12 thru today. 238 of those developers
> said they plan to do more in various ways. The table is provided below. I
> believe that many of the responses are from those who are not on this list.
>
> Which of the following development priorities for versions of Apache Flex
> beyond 4.8.0-incubating do you plan to contribute to (contribute code,
> review code, author wiki, author training, lead webinars, author code
> examples, testing code, spreading the word) during the next 6-12 months?
> Choose all that apply:
> Answer Options Response Count
> 4.6 ViewStack 86
> 4.6 Accordion 50
> 4.6 DateField 78
> 4.6 DataChooser 58
> 4.6 Enhanced DataGrid 91
> 4.6 missing automation libraries29
> 4.6 missing fabridge 18
> 4.6 missing flash-integration 33
> 4.6 missing samples 53
> 4.6 missing embedded font support 39
> 3.x Flex SDK 39
> Flex compiler source code 37
> BlazeDS/BlazeDS.NET 76
> TLF 50
> Gravity 20
> FXG 59
> Squiggles 15
> OSMF 42
> Other (please specify) 26
> answered question 238
> skipped question 258
>
>
I'm not really sure what the point of this survey is. When I volunteer my
time to this project I spend my time on things that I feel passionate
about, things that I want fixed or added. Nobody in the project determines
what should be actually worked on next, people just start adding. For
example Justin just started adding validators, Tink has added other
components, etc. I, personally, wouldn't look at this much. I would,
however, be more involved with devs that mailed the mailing list and said
"I am working on X and I need an opinion or help on Y".
-omar
Re: Recruiting more help for the project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Guthmann, Scott
<sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
> ...1) Is there a way to tell how many people are on the Flex-Dev mailing list today?
> Please tell me what the number is....
http://markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.flex-dev
gives an idea of traffic, and list moderators can get exact numbers.
http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fincubator%2Fflex
gives stats on commit activity.
-Bertrand