[DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <or...@apache.org>]

This is not a nomination statement.  It is a comment and a procedural suggestion.

COMMENT

Jan,

I am certain that you gave deep consideration to your decision to resign.  I trust that you have other pursuits that are more satisfying and that you can now provide full devotion to.  I wish you good fortune in all endeavors that you commit your considerable energies to.  

For me, your continued participation on the PMC, at whatever level you choose, will be welcome.

PROPOSAL

Two things,

 1. If there is only one nominee at the end of discussion, I suggest that a (5-day or 7-day) lazy consensus period, not a [VOTE], be conducted for that candidate.  This allows discussion on the specific candidate, including response to any objections, and the achievement of consensus without the awful situation that Louis Suarez-Potts endured in the previous determination of a Chair recommendation.

 2. I think candidates should be current PMC members (although that could simply be a matter of stated qualifications in the process we are starting now).  I base that on neither of the previous candidates being current PMC members.  I found, for myself, on joining the PMC after the previous election, that I was definitely missing background and understanding of the status of the PMC and issues it was being faced with.  I also missed seeing the way the outgoing Chair (i.e., Andrea Pescetti) provided examples as a PMC Chair.  For those who consider this role, please consult and embrace the definition of PMC Chair responsibilities at <https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair>.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 03:39
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

Hi.

I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
looks like:
Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
Discussion ends August 23th
Voting ends September 4th
Resolution send to board September 5th.
New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

[jan i <ja...@apache.org>]

Hi Dennis

I have absolutely no problem with your changes as long as September 5th
remain unchanged.

however as we both know, the opinion thst I should follow the idea of a
single persone have
been raised quite direct in private, do could you please endure PMC
consensus to the proposal. With consensus I willchabfe it imidiatly.

rgds
jan i


On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <or...@apache.org> wrote:

> This is not a nomination statement.  It is a comment and a procedural
> suggestion.
>
> COMMENT
>
> Jan,
>
> I am certain that you gave deep consideration to your decision to resign.
> I trust that you have other pursuits that are more satisfying and that you
> can now provide full devotion to.  I wish you good fortune in all endeavors
> that you commit your considerable energies to.
>
> For me, your continued participation on the PMC, at whatever level you
> choose, will be welcome.
>
> PROPOSAL
>
> Two things,
>
>  1. If there is only one nominee at the end of discussion, I suggest that
> a (5-day or 7-day) lazy consensus period, not a [VOTE], be conducted for
> that candidate.  This allows discussion on the specific candidate,
> including response to any objections, and the achievement of consensus
> without the awful situation that Louis Suarez-Potts endured in the previous
> determination of a Chair recommendation.
>
>  2. I think candidates should be current PMC members (although that could
> simply be a matter of stated qualifications in the process we are starting
> now).  I base that on neither of the previous candidates being current PMC
> members.  I found, for myself, on joining the PMC after the previous
> election, that I was definitely missing background and understanding of the
> status of the PMC and issues it was being faced with.  I also missed seeing
> the way the outgoing Chair (i.e., Andrea Pescetti) provided examples as a
> PMC Chair.  For those who consider this role, please consult and embrace
> the definition of PMC Chair responsibilities at <
> https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair>.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 03:39
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?
>
> Hi.
>
> I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
> looks like:
> Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
> Discussion ends August 23th
> Voting ends September 4th
> Resolution send to board September 5th.
> New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.
>
> [ ... ]
>
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