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Posted to log4net-dev@logging.apache.org by Miljenko Cvjetko <mc...@holisticware.net> on 2014/02/03 15:32:24 UTC
Re:Thoughts on 1.3
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Hi
I have tried to post this one through the nabble on Nov 25th and 26th.
The I got dragged away with projects, then holidays and again projects.
Now I have a bit easier, so I'd like to add few thoughts.
My name is Miljenko Cvjetko and I'm the one that forked log4net on
GitHub, did some structural changes on the solution/project in order to
"port" it to Xamarin Mobile profiles (Xamarin.iOS and Xamarin.Android)
and contacted Stefan for a permission to submit log4net Xamarin
Component to Xamarin Componet Store.
Stefan asked me whether I can put some thoughts and more light on the
subject in this thread about the Version 1.3.
There were several questions both on mailing-lists and forums about
availability of the log4net for Mono Mobile profiles (Xamarin Mobile)
and I was personally faced with that issue when our team worked on
Application that uses mobile port of SharpSNMP, which uses log4net. The
quick and dirty workaround was to exclude the dependency (and comment it
out).
The era of mobile enterprise apps is about to begin and a lot of code
will be ported from desktop and server side (ASP.net) to mobile in order
to reuse code. Almost all utilities/libraries/tools for .net have
disadvantage/handicap that they are written for desktop and/or ASP.net,
thus using APIs and/or concepts that are not acceptable or possible on
mobile devices. To name some: System.Web assembly (used by log4net) and
Configuration utilities which need Xml support.
What I actually did is simply split log4net into 2 assemblies, the one
with client profile called log4net.client and the other with only
ASP.net specific stuff with old name log4net. The code was
source-linked, so log4net was for external usage the same as it used to be.
All unit tests passed w/o problems.
So I would suggest You to do as Stefan suggested:
1. "to split log4net-13.dll so that the main assembly can be used for
the client profile and a separate assembly contains the stuff that
requires System.Web - this way we no longer need the -cp builds."
2. add separate assemblies for async/await (netfx 4.5, mono 3.x), so
people are not forced into 4.5.
I have worked with log4net on Xamarin's alpha channel for last 2 months
and experienced no problems only stuff I would suggest to add async
wrappers (suggestion 2.).
Also Stefan asked me to merge code into 1.2.x (1.2.13) branch, so I'll
do that in next few days and issue pull request as soon as I'm done. I
will try to be least intrusive, so will probably end up with:
1. src folder with ASP.net project (dependencies), so it is the same for
regression and backward compatibility
2. src-client (or whatever) with client profile - this might be even PCL
- I have to see.
3. src-mobile for iOS and Android assemblies.
Xamarin Component stuff will be added later on.
I hope I did not bother You too much and thank You
best regards
Mel
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Re: Thoughts on 1.3
Posted by Miljenko Cvjetko <mc...@holisticware.net>.
Sorry for formatting. Pasted it directly from google docs into
thunderbird and here it looked OK.
sorry one more time
mel
On 2014.02.03 15:32, Miljenko Cvjetko wrote:
> *
>
> Hi
>
>
> I have tried to post this one through the nabble on Nov 25th and 26th.
> The I got dragged away with projects, then holidays and again
> projects. Now I have a bit easier, so I'd like to add few thoughts.
>
>
> My name is Miljenko Cvjetko and I'm the one that forked log4net on
> GitHub, did some structural changes on the solution/project in order
> to "port" it to Xamarin Mobile profiles (Xamarin.iOS and
> Xamarin.Android) and contacted Stefan for a permission to submit
> log4net Xamarin Component to Xamarin Componet Store.
>
>
> Stefan asked me whether I can put some thoughts and more light on the
> subject in this thread about the Version 1.3.
>
>
> There were several questions both on mailing-lists and forums about
> availability of the log4net for Mono Mobile profiles (Xamarin Mobile)
> and I was personally faced with that issue when our team worked on
> Application that uses mobile port of SharpSNMP, which uses log4net.
> The quick and dirty workaround was to exclude the dependency (and
> comment it out).
>
>
> The era of mobile enterprise apps is about to begin and a lot of code
> will be ported from desktop and server side (ASP.net) to mobile in
> order to reuse code. Almost all utilities/libraries/tools for .net
> have disadvantage/handicap that they are written for desktop and/or
> ASP.net, thus using APIs and/or concepts that are not acceptable or
> possible on mobile devices. To name some: System.Web assembly (used by
> log4net) and Configuration utilities which need Xml support.
>
>
> What I actually did is simply split log4net into 2 assemblies, the one
> with client profile called log4net.client and the other with only
> ASP.net specific stuff with old name log4net. The code was
> source-linked, so log4net was for external usage the same as it used
> to be.
>
>
> All unit tests passed w/o problems.
>
>
> So I would suggest You to do as Stefan suggested:
>
>
> 1. "to split log4net-13.dll so that the main assembly can be used for
> the client profile and a separate assembly contains the stuff that
> requires System.Web - this way we no longer need the -cp builds."
>
>
> 2. add separate assemblies for async/await (netfx 4.5, mono 3.x), so
> people are not forced into 4.5.
>
>
> I have worked with log4net on Xamarin's alpha channel for last 2
> months and experienced no problems only stuff I would suggest to add
> async wrappers (suggestion 2.).
>
>
> Also Stefan asked me to merge code into 1.2.x (1.2.13) branch, so I'll
> do that in next few days and issue pull request as soon as I'm done. I
> will try to be least intrusive, so will probably end up with:
>
>
> 1. src folder with ASP.net project (dependencies), so it is the same
> for regression and backward compatibility
>
> 2. src-client (or whatever) with client profile - this might be even
> PCL - I have to see.
>
> 3. src-mobile for iOS and Android assemblies.
>
>
> Xamarin Component stuff will be added later on.
>
>
> I hope I did not bother You too much and thank You
>
>
> best regards
>
>
> Mel
>
> *
> --
> Miljenko Cvjetko dipl.ing. ET
> Direktor/CEO
> Projektant rjes(enja/Solution Architect
> Razvojni programer/Senior developer
> Voditelj projekta/Project Manager
>
> IX juz(na obala 13
> Kajzerica Zagreb
> T: 385 1 7775555
> M: 385 91 557 447 3
> F: 385 1 7779556
> e:mcvjetko@holisticware.net
> w:http://holisticware.net
--
Miljenko Cvjetko dipl.ing. ET
Direktor/CEO
Projektant rjes(enja/Solution Architect
Razvojni programer/Senior developer
Voditelj projekta/Project Manager
IX juz(na obala 13
Kajzerica Zagreb
T: 385 1 7775555
M: 385 91 557 447 3
F: 385 1 7779556
e: mcvjetko@holisticware.net
w: http://holisticware.net