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HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Hi People,

I have been using cocoon for a while and thought I would give lenya a go.
Hopefully I will be using it a lot more with my company so I have subscribed
to the mailing lists and would like to help out with fixing bugs and helping
users in the future. We are currently  building a site for a big corporation
in lenya, so far things are going well, however there are some additions /
changes I must make.

There a few things I need to do today / tonight (Don't you just love
deadlines) :)

* Get htmlarea 3 working as the editor for xhtml

This doesn't look like it will be too hard (famous last words).
Has anyone done it before? Got any tips.
Is this something that people will be interested in having in Lenya?

Other more long term goals are to have a cool image editor interface in
flash that connects to a serverside image processing component to do
resizing, cropping, etc. I found that the cocoon image resize component did
not offer good enough quality. I have this working with my php sites, and
have started on integrating jmagik with cocoon so I can do the same in
Lenya.

* Find a way of including chunks of xhtml and flash as includes (This may be
a job for the weekend).

I'm thinking that a cocoon includes might be the best way of doing this.
What do people think ? Is there an existing way of doing this now?

Thanks for all the hard work you guys have put into Lenya.

Best Regards,
Luke


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Re: HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 02:08, luke hubbard wrote:
> > 2.) I already integrated that widget as an editor into Lenya, just for
> > fun, but do we need another editor? :)
> > 
> > 3.) I never checked it in and versioning is missing, which is easy to
> > do. 
> > 5.) Here is a screenshot
> > ftp://80.134.13.77/pub/tmp/mocks/anti_kupu_screenshot.png
> > Be quick, my ip may change :)
> 
> Cool. Looks like just what I need. 
> Any chance you can place it in CVS / SVN or post the code someplace. :) 

The problem is I integrated the editor a bit different than the others.
In the dev list a new term - Publet - came up, which is a kind of
crosscutting cms app. I mean u can pull it easy into multiple
publications. One can also image "Publets" like Poll, News and Comment.

However, I will not check it in before we have converted cvs to svn,
since all this code will earliest go into the 1.4-dev code repository
and we do not want to branche our cvs at this time anymore. 

Lenya 1.2.1 will be mainly a bugfix release and the "Publets" idea would
introduce some changes going beyond simple bugfixes.

> If its still a working progress I would love to help. 

Yes it is. Your help is very appreciated.
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Re: HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Posted by luke hubbard <lu...@symbiosys.biz>.
> 2.) I already integrated that widget as an editor into Lenya, just for
> fun, but do we need another editor? :)
> 
> 3.) I never checked it in and versioning is missing, which is easy to
> do.
> 
> 4.) Have got any funds ? (Just kidding)
> 
> 5.) Here is a screenshot
> ftp://80.134.13.77/pub/tmp/mocks/anti_kupu_screenshot.png
> Be quick, my ip may change :)

Cool. Looks like just what I need. 
Any chance you can place it in CVS / SVN or post the code someplace. :) 
If its still a working progress I would love to help. 

> 6.) Welcome to the party
> 
> 7.) Have fun

Thanks. 
Luke


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Re: HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 17:01, luke hubbard wrote:
...
> > > There a few things I need to do today / tonight (Don't you just love
> > > deadlines) :)
> > >
> > > * Get htmlarea 3 working as the editor for xhtml

1.) Well, there is a cforms widget to render the xhtmlarea. Dunno, which
version.

2.) I already integrated that widget as an editor into Lenya, just for
fun, but do we need another editor? :)

3.) I never checked it in and versioning is missing, which is easy to
do.

4.) Have got any funds ? (Just kidding)

5.) Here is a screenshot
ftp://80.134.13.77/pub/tmp/mocks/anti_kupu_screenshot.png
Be quick, my ip may change :)

6.) Welcome to the party

7.) Have fun
-- 
Rolf Kulemann


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Re: HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Posted by luke hubbard <lu...@symbiosys.biz>.
> > I have been using cocoon for a while and thought I would give lenya a
go.
> > Hopefully I will be using it a lot more with my company so I have
subscribed
> > to the mailing lists and would like to help out with fixing bugs and
helping
> > users in the future. We are currently  building a site for a big
corporation
> > in lenya, so far things are going well, however there are some additions
/
> > changes I must make.
>
> welcome luke
>
> i'll refrain from obvious star wars references and say, real projects do
> wonders for speeding up the learning curve.

I've been using the force for longer than I can remember :)

> > There a few things I need to do today / tonight (Don't you just love
> > deadlines) :)
> >
> > * Get htmlarea 3 working as the editor for xhtml
> >
> > This doesn't look like it will be too hard (famous last words).
> > Has anyone done it before? Got any tips.
> > Is this something that people will be interested in having in Lenya?
>
> what does htmlarea offer you that you dont get from kupu? i would be
> hesitant to add yet more editor options to lenya (there are too many
> already).if you really need it, the kupu integration is probably a good
> starting point.

Well. I actually wrote my own wysiwyg editor ages ago. Its still used by the
people I used to work for. But in developing it I discovered lots of crazy
bugs, like memory leaks in ie, and lots other problems. So a few months ago
I decided to look for a viable open source editor. I found HTMLArea, liked
it and have used it in lots of sites. It has killer features like a word
html cleaner, spellcheck, and it cross browser. Its also used with cocoon
forms. From what I can tell its the most popular open source wysiwyg editor
available. So it will have more people fixing bugs and adding features. As a
company we are also developing addons for it. .

However if i don't get things working with HTMLArea tonight I will have to
use Kupu. :)

> > Other more long term goals are to have a cool image editor interface in
> > flash that connects to a serverside image processing component to do
> > resizing, cropping, etc. I found that the cocoon image resize component
did
> > not offer good enough quality. I have this working with my php sites,
and
> > have started on integrating jmagik with cocoon so I can do the same in
> > Lenya.
>
> this is on the wishlist. i would love that feature. is jmagik ASL
> compatible?
>

Unfortuatly its not (from what I can remember).. However once we get blocks
this might not be such a problem. The other option for us is to setup a php
image server that does all the processing and send the finished image to
cocoon. Flash interface should be independant of the server side image
processing api, so it should not matter if its php, or cocoon with jmagik
component.

> > * Find a way of including chunks of xhtml and flash as includes (This
may be
> > a job for the weekend).
> >
> > I'm thinking that a cocoon includes might be the best way of doing this.
> > What do people think ? Is there an existing way of doing this now?
>
> there are both cinclude and xinclude samples in lenya. a grep will show
you

Cool. I will grep away :)

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> Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
> http://wyona.com                   http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
> gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com                       gregor@apache.org
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Re: HTMLArea 3, Includes, Image Processing

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
luke hubbard wrote:

> I have been using cocoon for a while and thought I would give lenya a go.
> Hopefully I will be using it a lot more with my company so I have subscribed
> to the mailing lists and would like to help out with fixing bugs and helping
> users in the future. We are currently  building a site for a big corporation
> in lenya, so far things are going well, however there are some additions /
> changes I must make.

welcome luke

i'll refrain from obvious star wars references and say, real projects do 
wonders for speeding up the learning curve.

> There a few things I need to do today / tonight (Don't you just love
> deadlines) :)
> 
> * Get htmlarea 3 working as the editor for xhtml
> 
> This doesn't look like it will be too hard (famous last words).
> Has anyone done it before? Got any tips.
> Is this something that people will be interested in having in Lenya?

what does htmlarea offer you that you dont get from kupu? i would be 
hesitant to add yet more editor options to lenya (there are too many 
already).if you really need it, the kupu integration is probably a good 
starting point.

> Other more long term goals are to have a cool image editor interface in
> flash that connects to a serverside image processing component to do
> resizing, cropping, etc. I found that the cocoon image resize component did
> not offer good enough quality. I have this working with my php sites, and
> have started on integrating jmagik with cocoon so I can do the same in
> Lenya.

this is on the wishlist. i would love that feature. is jmagik ASL 
compatible?


> * Find a way of including chunks of xhtml and flash as includes (This may be
> a job for the weekend).
> 
> I'm thinking that a cocoon includes might be the best way of doing this.
> What do people think ? Is there an existing way of doing this now?

there are both cinclude and xinclude samples in lenya. a grep will show you

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Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://wyona.com                   http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com                       gregor@apache.org

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