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adding push notifications to core plugins
just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>.
+1 so I don't have to bug Jesse to merge my pull requests anymore ;)
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 esp since we have an emerging "standard" now:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-push-api-20141007/
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Darryl Pogue <dv...@gmail.com>.
On 16 October 2014 12:17, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 esp since we have an emerging "standard" now:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-push-api-20141007/
This would be a great addition, especially if it can follow the
emerging spec and provide a unified registration API across platforms.
The main complexity with the spec is that it delves into
ServiceWorkers :(
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Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
+1 esp since we have an emerging "standard" now:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-push-api-20141007/
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
it is very easily arguable that notifications are important to mobile, and
important enough that we should look at ensuring Cordova as a platform
supports them well
but agreed we need to pull up our socks on the older stuff, and maybe do
some housecleaning
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
>
> In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to the
> API.
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
> >
> > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises that
> we
> > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example, where
> > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> >
> > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long promised,
> > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
> > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy when
> > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the
> place.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > standard
> > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > supporting
> > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > > plugins
> > > > > than more.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > >
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last
> > few
> > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile
> projects, a
> > > > core
> > > > > > push
> > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > argument
> > > > for
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
My feelings are the same a Joe here. Current plugins are deteriorating.
Camera is especially bad.
Another reason to not dive in is that this isn't a trivial plugin to
create. The PushPlugin highlighted seems to always result in notifications
when pushes are received. The spec highlighted (as well as how native apps
work on Android) deliver the message and it's up to the app to show a
notification or not. Cordova on Android isn't currently able to work in
this way.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:59 PM, tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
wrote:
> This
>
>
>
> On 20 October 2014 at 11:49:21, Brian LeRoux (b@brian.io) wrote:
>
> for me its about acknowledging the importance of push notifications to the
> platform and making it a first class citizen
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:24:26PM -0700, Jesse wrote:
> > > Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> > > It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
> > >
> > > In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> > > makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to
> > the
> > > API.
> > >
> >
> > What is the expected benefit of moving a plugin this much mature to
> > core plugins?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > risingj.com
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS
> camera.
> > > >
> > > > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises
> > that we
> > > > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but
> our
> > > > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very
> little
> > > > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > > > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > > > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > > > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example,
> > where
> > > > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal
> is
> > > > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> > > >
> > > > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long
> > promised,
> > > > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push
> notifications
> > > > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy
> > when
> > > > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the
> > place.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > > > standard
> > > > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > > > supporting
> > > > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > > > > plugins
> > > > > > > than more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <
> purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <
> > lorin.beer@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the
> > last
> > > > few
> > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile
> > projects, a
> > > > > > core
> > > > > > > > push
> > > > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > > > argument
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>.
This
On 20 October 2014 at 11:49:21, Brian LeRoux (b@brian.io) wrote:
for me its about acknowledging the importance of push notifications to the
platform and making it a first class citizen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:24:26PM -0700, Jesse wrote:
> > Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> > It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
> >
> > In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> > makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to
> the
> > API.
> >
>
> What is the expected benefit of moving a plugin this much mature to
> core plugins?
>
>
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
> > >
> > > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises
> that we
> > > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> > > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> > > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example,
> where
> > > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> > > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> > >
> > > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long
> promised,
> > > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
> > > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy
> when
> > > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the
> place.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > > standard
> > > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > > supporting
> > > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > > > plugins
> > > > > > than more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the
> last
> > > few
> > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile
> projects, a
> > > > > core
> > > > > > > push
> > > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > > argument
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
for me its about acknowledging the importance of push notifications to the
platform and making it a first class citizen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:24:26PM -0700, Jesse wrote:
> > Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> > It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
> >
> > In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> > makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to
> the
> > API.
> >
>
> What is the expected benefit of moving a plugin this much mature to
> core plugins?
>
>
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
> > >
> > > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises
> that we
> > > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> > > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> > > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example,
> where
> > > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> > > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> > >
> > > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long
> promised,
> > > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
> > > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy
> when
> > > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the
> place.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > > standard
> > > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > > supporting
> > > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > > > plugins
> > > > > > than more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the
> last
> > > few
> > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile
> projects, a
> > > > > core
> > > > > > > push
> > > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > > argument
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:24:26PM -0700, Jesse wrote:
> Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
>
> In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to the
> API.
>
What is the expected benefit of moving a plugin this much mature to
core plugins?
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
> >
> > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises that we
> > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example, where
> > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> >
> > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long promised,
> > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
> > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy when
> > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the place.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > standard
> > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > supporting
> > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > > plugins
> > > > > than more.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > >
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last
> > few
> > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a
> > > > core
> > > > > > push
> > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > argument
> > > > for
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to the
API.
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
>
> The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises that we
> can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example, where
> the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> absolute garbage and unimplementable.
>
> I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long promised,
> but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
> plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy when
> we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the place.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> standard
> > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > supporting
> > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> > plugins
> > > > than more.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > >
> https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > >
> > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > >
> > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > risingj.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last
> few
> > > > weeks.
> > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a
> > > core
> > > > > push
> > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> argument
> > > for
> > > > > why
> > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises that we
can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example, where
the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
absolute garbage and unimplementable.
I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long promised,
but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push notifications
plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy when
we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the place.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some standard
> API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> supporting
> > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core
> plugins
> > > than more.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > >
> > > > and it is MIT
> > > >
> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > risingj.com
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few
> > > weeks.
> > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a
> > core
> > > > push
> > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument
> > for
> > > > why
> > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some standard
API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at supporting
> > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core plugins
> > than more.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This one supports everything:
> > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > >
> > > and it is MIT
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > risingj.com
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few
> > weeks.
> > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a
> core
> > > push
> > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument
> for
> > > why
> > > > you should use cordova.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at supporting
> what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core plugins
> than more.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This one supports everything:
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> >
> > and it is MIT
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few
> weeks.
> > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a core
> > push
> > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument for
> > why
> > > you should use cordova.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at supporting
what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core plugins
than more.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This one supports everything:
> https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
>
> and it is MIT
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few weeks.
> > Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a core
> push
> > notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument for
> why
> > you should use cordova.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > >
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
This one supports everything:
https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
and it is MIT
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few weeks.
> Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a core push
> notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument for why
> you should use cordova.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> >
>
Re: adding push notifications to core plugins
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@gmail.com>.
I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last few weeks.
Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a core push
notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument for why
you should use cordova.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
>