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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2012/01/08 13:46:09 UTC
Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Hi,
What's the status of this effort?
I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.
Please branch any followup discussion about specific podlings to
separate threads.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> 2007-09-17 JSPWiki
S: Actively discussing leaving the Incubator
(http://markmail.org/message/etgsawr7mtjggppt).
R: Ask for an exit or graduation plan in next report (if not executed sooner).
> 2008-01-06 RAT
S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
R: Push to graduate within Q1.
> 2008-05-20 Hama
S: Active but not too diverse (?) community.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2008-07-08 Empire-db
S: Graduating in January.
R: Congratulations!
> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.
> 2008-09-02 Etch
S: Too small to graduate yet
(http://markmail.org/message/ihkdh4rfunwzkjs7). Martijn is helping
them.
R: More mentors needed?
> 2008-09-04 Tashi
S: Commit activity by two committers but near-zero public discussion.
No active mentors.
R: Mentors needed.
> 2008-09-29 Olio
S: Retired.
R: RIP.
> 2008-10-06 VCL
S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
> 2008-10-09 Droids
S: Somewhat active, still not enough for a TLP. Last report mentions
IP clearance issues?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2008-11-06 Kato
S: Zero activity.
R: Terminate.
> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
S: Zero activity.
R: Terminate.
> 2009-04-24 Ace
S: Graduated.
R: Congratulations!
> 2009-05-27 Wink
S: Pretty low but steady activity. Too small to graduate.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.
> 2009-07-17 Wookie
S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2009-11-05 HISE
S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.
> 2009-11-27 Clerezza
S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
> 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
> 2010-02-21 SIS
S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
> 2010-03-01 Bean Validation
S: Just about to graduate.
R: Congratulations!
> 2010-05-09 Amber
S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2010-05-19 Deltacloud
S: Graduated.
R: Congratulations!
> 2010-05-21 Zeta Components
S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community. Looking for a new mentor.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
> 2010-06-24 Nuvem
S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-nuvem-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
> 2010-07-14 Chukwa
S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
> 2010-07-22 Lucy
S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2010-08-13 NPanday
S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2010-09-07 Isis
S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2010-09-26 Gora
S: Graduating in January.
R: Congratulations!
> 2010-10-03 Kitty
S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-kitty-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
> 2010-11-02 Celix
S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
> 2010-11-15 Stanbol
S: Fairly active and apparently diverse community. No release yet.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi...
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the status of this effort?
>
> I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
> a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
> my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.
>
> Please branch any followup discussion about specific podlings to
> separate threads.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> > 2007-09-17 JSPWiki
>
> S: Actively discussing leaving the Incubator
> (http://markmail.org/message/etgsawr7mtjggppt).
> R: Ask for an exit or graduation plan in next report (if not executed
> sooner).
>
> > 2008-01-06 RAT
>
> S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
> R: Push to graduate within Q1.
>
> > 2008-05-20 Hama
>
> S: Active but not too diverse (?) community.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2008-07-08 Empire-db
>
> S: Graduating in January.
> R: Congratulations!
>
> > 2008-08-19 PhotArk
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
> > 2008-09-02 Etch
>
> S: Too small to graduate yet
> (http://markmail.org/message/ihkdh4rfunwzkjs7). Martijn is helping
> them.
> R: More mentors needed?
>
> > 2008-09-04 Tashi
>
> S: Commit activity by two committers but near-zero public discussion.
> No active mentors.
> R: Mentors needed.
>
> > 2008-09-29 Olio
>
> S: Retired.
> R: RIP.
>
> > 2008-10-06 VCL
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
> > 2008-10-09 Droids
>
> S: Somewhat active, still not enough for a TLP. Last report mentions
> IP clearance issues?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2008-11-06 Kato
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
> > 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
> > 2009-04-24 Ace
>
> S: Graduated.
> R: Congratulations!
>
> > 2009-05-27 Wink
>
> S: Pretty low but steady activity. Too small to graduate.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2009-07-06 VXQuery
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
> > 2009-07-17 Wookie
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2009-11-05 HISE
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
> > 2009-11-27 Clerezza
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
> > 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
>
> > 2010-02-21 SIS
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser
> )
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
> > 2010-03-01 Bean Validation
>
> S: Just about to graduate.
> R: Congratulations!
>
> > 2010-05-09 Amber
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2010-05-19 Deltacloud
>
> S: Graduated.
> R: Congratulations!
>
> > 2010-05-21 Zeta Components
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community. Looking for a new
> mentor.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
>
> > 2010-06-24 Nuvem
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-nuvem-dev/201111.mbox/browser
> )
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
> > 2010-07-14 Chukwa
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
> > 2010-07-22 Lucy
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already
> graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2010-08-13 NPanday
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already
> graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2010-09-07 Isis
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already
> graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
Thats all true, the only problem we have is that we didn't get any new
committers yet.
>
> > 2010-09-26 Gora
>
> S: Graduating in January.
> R: Congratulations!
>
> > 2010-10-03 Kitty
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-kitty-dev/201111.mbox/browser
> )
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
> > 2010-11-02 Celix
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> > 2010-11-15 Stanbol
>
> S: Fairly active and apparently diverse community. No release yet.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> 2008-01-06 RAT
>
> S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
> R: Push to graduate within Q1.
Rat is stalled on trademarks
Robert
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Just an FYI: I have posted a status update on Etch on general@, hoping
it doesn't fall on deaf ears with all the discussions going on:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201201.mbox/%3cCAB63Y-dsJKbkeLjKhUVkBdLmsjwvFVixo0FnXEXOFHq1V4mEPA@mail.gmail.com%3e
Martijn
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the status of this effort?
>
> I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
> a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
> my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.
>
> Please branch any followup discussion about specific podlings to
> separate threads.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> 2007-09-17 JSPWiki
>
> S: Actively discussing leaving the Incubator
> (http://markmail.org/message/etgsawr7mtjggppt).
> R: Ask for an exit or graduation plan in next report (if not executed sooner).
>
>> 2008-01-06 RAT
>
> S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
> R: Push to graduate within Q1.
>
>> 2008-05-20 Hama
>
> S: Active but not too diverse (?) community.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2008-07-08 Empire-db
>
> S: Graduating in January.
> R: Congratulations!
>
>> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
>> 2008-09-02 Etch
>
> S: Too small to graduate yet
> (http://markmail.org/message/ihkdh4rfunwzkjs7). Martijn is helping
> them.
> R: More mentors needed?
>
>> 2008-09-04 Tashi
>
> S: Commit activity by two committers but near-zero public discussion.
> No active mentors.
> R: Mentors needed.
>
>> 2008-09-29 Olio
>
> S: Retired.
> R: RIP.
>
>> 2008-10-06 VCL
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
>> 2008-10-09 Droids
>
> S: Somewhat active, still not enough for a TLP. Last report mentions
> IP clearance issues?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2008-11-06 Kato
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
>> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
>> 2009-04-24 Ace
>
> S: Graduated.
> R: Congratulations!
>
>> 2009-05-27 Wink
>
> S: Pretty low but steady activity. Too small to graduate.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
>> 2009-07-17 Wookie
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2009-11-05 HISE
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
>
>> 2009-11-27 Clerezza
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
>> 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
>
>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
>> 2010-03-01 Bean Validation
>
> S: Just about to graduate.
> R: Congratulations!
>
>> 2010-05-09 Amber
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2010-05-19 Deltacloud
>
> S: Graduated.
> R: Congratulations!
>
>> 2010-05-21 Zeta Components
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community. Looking for a new mentor.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.
>
>> 2010-06-24 Nuvem
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-nuvem-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
>> 2010-07-14 Chukwa
>
> S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
> R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?
>
>> 2010-07-22 Lucy
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2010-08-13 NPanday
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2010-09-07 Isis
>
> S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2010-09-26 Gora
>
> S: Graduating in January.
> R: Congratulations!
>
>> 2010-10-03 Kitty
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-kitty-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
>> 2010-11-02 Celix
>
> S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
>> 2010-11-15 Stanbol
>
> S: Fairly active and apparently diverse community. No release yet.
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Actively retiring projects
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 01/08/2012 06:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> 2008-10-09 Droids
> S: Somewhat active, still not enough for a TLP. Last report mentions
> IP clearance issues?
> R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.
>
I'm a mentor this project and will get things moving.
You say it isn't active enough for a TLP. My question is what
constitutes active enough? Jim states 3 PMC members to vote on releases.
Upon graduation that project could easily have 3 active PMC members.
The IP clearance issue has been cleared up. That shouldn't have been in
the report.
Expect the next report (next month) to include discussion about an
actual graduation plan.
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Re: [DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively
retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Adam,
On Jan 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Adam Estrada wrote:
> Mattmann,
>
> I think a bare bones demo would be extremely valuable. I can get the how-to docs up to snuff once there is a good baseline core in trunk.
See here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sis/trunk/README.txt
There are instructions in there on how to get SIS up and running and a demo. You interested in helping get that on the wiki?
Also, our website sucks. Sorry to say, but it just does. We need an overhaul there but I have
0 graphics skillz. Any help there would be most welcome.
> What this project really needs are some definite goals and milestones that we can go by.
I laid out my vision of them in: http://s.apache.org/sn so if you've got a different or similar vision,
I'm all ears. I think it's consistent with what I've heard from you on the list so I think we're in
unison.
> What you suggested below is great but it needs to be laid out in the official wiki, right? I assume the index of choice is going to be based on Lucene.
That would be one of our targets, but also:
1. OODT File Manager (catalog)
2. PostGIS
3. HBase
4. Gora?
5. Elastic Search
I bought HBase: the Definitive Guide, so that's on my current reading list, and I can personally take care of #1
and possibly #4 but I don't know enough about #2 or #5 (even though I did buy PostGIS in Action and plan on
re-reading it at some point b/c it was a while back when I read the ebook).
> There are options to this and @tlpinney has laid out the foundation for a really fast, low-level index that can trump the inverted index. ElasticSearch also has some promising spatial capabilities. See below.
It would be great if @tlpinney could join up here on sis-dev@ (or if he's already here great) and chime in
on this.
>
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1486
Very cool. A module for SIS for elastic search would go a long way I think.
Cheers,
Chris
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
>> SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
>>
>> I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
>> others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
>>
>> Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
>>
>> 1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
>> 2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
>> - dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
>> - loads it into SIS QTree index
>> - makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
>> - write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
>> in my next email)
>>
>> Patches, help, discussion welcome.
>>
>> Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
>> here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
>> about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Hey Jukka,
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>>>
>>>> S: Last activity in November
>>>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>>>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>>>
>>> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
>>> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
>>> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
>>> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: [DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Posted by Adam Estrada <es...@gmail.com>.
Mattmann,
I think a bare bones demo would be extremely valuable. I can get the how-to docs up to snuff once there is a good baseline core in trunk. What this project really needs are some definite goals and milestones that we can go by. What you suggested below is great but it needs to be laid out in the official wiki, right? I assume the index of choice is going to be based on Lucene. There are options to this and @tlpinney has laid out the foundation for a really fast, low-level index that can trump the inverted index. ElasticSearch also has some promising spatial capabilities. See below.
https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1486
Adam
On Jan 8, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Guys,
>
> The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
> SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
>
> I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
> others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
>
> Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
>
> 1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
> 2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
> - dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
> - loads it into SIS QTree index
> - makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
> - write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
> in my next email)
>
> Patches, help, discussion welcome.
>
> Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
> here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
> about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Hey Jukka,
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>>
>>> S: Last activity in November
>>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>>
>> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
>> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
>> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
>> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
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> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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[DISCUSS] SIS: Need to get back on track (was Fwd: Actively
retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011))
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Guys,
The Incubator is talking about retiring projects. It has been suggested that
SIS is on that list. That concerns me.
I'm going to do my best to step it up in Q1. We'll see if I (and hopefully many
others) can get this podling back on track. I care deeply about the issues here.
Here's my concrete set of things to work on over the next 3 months:
1. List of issues I'm going to try to roll for in 0.2: http://s.apache.org/sn
2. Get a baked in demo with Apache OODT that:
- dumps HDF/NetCDF data out of CAS Product Server GeoRSS into SIS
- loads it into SIS QTree index
- makes it searchable via bounding box and point/radius
- write wiki page (on our new SIS wiki that I'm going to remind people exists
in my next email)
Patches, help, discussion welcome.
Speaking of which if there are things people are interested in, please have discussions
here on list and let's show others that there are more than just a few people that care
about a Geospatial Apache licensed toolkit here at the ASF.
Cheers,
Chris
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Date: January 8, 2012 9:05:33 AM PST
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Hey Jukka,
>
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>>
>> S: Last activity in November
>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
>> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
>
> As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
> SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
> enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
> geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
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Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report
November 2011)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Jukka,
On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> 2010-02-21 SIS
>
> S: Last activity in November
> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/201111.mbox/browser)
> R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.
As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be nice to give
SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, geospatial
enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 licensed
geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
> a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
> my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.
Excellent work! This is the type of information I would love to see
in board reports from the Incubator.
For reference, here are the published incubator reports, minus the
podling reports:
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Incubator.html
Here are the podling reports for all of the podlings that have yet to
(or never managed to) graduate:
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/#podling
Here is an up-to-the-minute update on podlings by age (complete with a graph):
https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
- Sam Ruby
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report
November 2011)
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Jukka Zitting wrote on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 17:20:41 +0100:
> Their next status report is due in March; looking forward
> to a summary then.
They're free to send an out-of-cycle report in February if they
want to...
</reminder>
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Some further followup on this.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
>>
>> S: Zero recent activity.
>> R: Terminate.
>
> I contacted photark-dev@, asking for a status update or a decision to
> terminate. Luciano is helping the community.
Led by Luciano, the PhotArk community is discussion a new direction.
I'm looking forward to a summary in their February status report.
>>> 2008-11-06 Kato
>>
>> S: Zero activity.
>> R: Terminate.
>
> The status of Kato (in relation to Oracle's actions) is being
> evaluated. Ant is helping the community.
It seems like Kato now has a more or less definite statement of
non-interest from Oracle, which leaves them discussing how to continue
from here. Their next status report is due in March; looking forward
to a summary then.
>>> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
>>
>> S: Zero activity.
>> R: Terminate.
>
> I contacted stonehenge-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a
> plan to revive the project. No mentors visible (6 listed).
As discussed, Stonehenge had already been voted to retire. I completed
the process.
>>> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
>>
>> S: Zero recent activity.
>> R: Terminate.
>
> I contacted vxquery-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a plan
> to revive the project. No mentors visible (4 listed).
There's some desire for further development, but apparently little
energy or interest in community-building. The option of taking the
codebase to an external hosting space came up. I suggested graduating
into an XMLBeans subproject as an alternative, assuming the XMLBeans
PMC is willing to help with the oversight.
>>> 2009-11-05 HISE
>>
>> S: Zero recent activity.
>> R: Terminate.
>
> I contacted hise-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a plan to
> revive the project. No mentors visible (3 listed).
I started the hise-dev@ vote to retire the project based on feedback
from the community.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:00:41 PM Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> I contacted stonehenge-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a
>> plan to revive the project. No mentors visible (6 listed).
>
> We already had the vote to retire it:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3C1479384.AD1QayfXJR%40dilbert.dankulp.com%3E
Thanks! I missed that.
> I've just been to busy to finish up the steps and the other mentors have pretty
> much disappeared. Any help would be appreciated.
No worries. I'll take care of it.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:00:41 PM Jukka Zitting wrote:
> The status of Kato (in relation to Oracle's actions) is being
> evaluated. Ant is helping the community.
>
> >> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
> >
> > S: Zero activity.
> > R: Terminate.
>
> I contacted stonehenge-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a
> plan to revive the project. No mentors visible (6 listed).
We already had the vote to retire it:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3C1479384.AD1QayfXJR%40dilbert.dankulp.com%3E
I've just been to busy to finish up the steps and the other mentors have pretty much disappeared. Any help would be appreciated.
--
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dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Following up on projects where my recommendation was an unconditional
"Terminate".
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
I contacted photark-dev@, asking for a status update or a decision to
terminate. Luciano is helping the community.
>> 2008-11-06 Kato
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
The status of Kato (in relation to Oracle's actions) is being
evaluated. Ant is helping the community.
>> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
>
> S: Zero activity.
> R: Terminate.
I contacted stonehenge-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a
plan to revive the project. No mentors visible (6 listed).
>> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
I contacted vxquery-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a plan
to revive the project. No mentors visible (4 listed).
>> 2009-11-05 HISE
>
> S: Zero recent activity.
> R: Terminate.
I contacted hise-dev@, asking them to retire or come up with a plan to
revive the project. No mentors visible (3 listed).
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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