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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net> on 2002/09/12 04:36:07 UTC
Re: svn commit: rev 3163
I just made another pushback on the milestone, for reasons that will
be familiar to anyone who works for a company with customers :-).
The CollabNet folk are needed for other work within CollabNet right
now, and it wasn't realistic to meet the milestone with Subversion
development temporarily underpowered (though thank goodness for Brane,
Philip, Garrett, and the others who have been keeping things going).
Thanks for your patience; we'll be back to the normal dev schedule as
soon as we can, and in the meantime keep those patches and commits
coming.
-Karl
kfogel@tigris.org writes:
> Log:
> * www/project_status.html: Adjust schedule due to many developers'
> time being otherwise allocated.
>
>
> Modified: trunk/www/project_status.html
> ==============================================================================
> --- trunk/www/project_status.html (original)
> +++ trunk/www/project_status.html Wed Sep 11 23:23:34 2002
> @@ -22,15 +22,15 @@
>
> <ul>
> <li>
> - <b>Subversion 0.14.3</b> (Thu, 12 September): Interim
> + <b>Subversion 0.14.3</b> (Thu, 26 September): Interim
> release; see issues marked with the "0.14.3" milestone.
> </li>
> <li>
> - <b>Subversion 0.14.4</b> (Thu, 26 September): Interim
> + <b>Subversion 0.14.4</b> (Thu, 10 October): Interim
> release; see issues marked with the "0.14.4" milestone.
> </li>
> <li>
> - <b>Subversion 0.14.5</b> (TBD, mid October): Next interim
> + <b>Subversion 0.14.5</b> (TBD): Next interim
> release, no issues assigned yet.
> </li>
> <li>
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Re: release thoughts? (was: svn commit: rev 3163)
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2002, at 07:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> Hmm. But a release doesn't have to have CN devs' changes in it.
>> Should we go
>> ahead and make a 0.14.3 release "soon", which incorporates all of this
>> recent work?
>>
>> To that end, I'd ask the devs: do you feel that some good forward
>> motion has
>> occurred since 0.14.2? Should we make a release to incorporate that?
>> When?
>
>
> personally, i think a release is in order relatively soon, if only to
> get all of philip's bug fixes out to the world so he doesn't have to
> keep saying 'i already fixed that in rev FOO'. ;-)
heh :-)
> on the other hand, if there's going to be another release of apr-util
> and apr soon (like the next day or so), then i would be in favor of
> waiting for that, since it would be quite nice to be able to point
> people at a real apr/apr-util release. we can't really send them to
> the 0.9.1 tarballs, since apr-util won't even configure out of the box.
I'm in favour of waiting for a stable apr and apr-util, too, and perhaps
Apache 2.0.41. Apart from that, there are 4 issues still in the mill for
0.14.3:
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=806
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=860
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=851
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=872
Of those, 806 and 860 are P2, and it'd be sooo nice if we could at least
fix 860 (which is a long-standing problem). I don't think fixing 806
quickly is a realistic option, and we can live with 872 for a while
still. 851 is just a pain in the ouch.
I propose:
Fix 860 before releaseing 0.14.3
Move 851 to 0.14.4
Move 806 and 872 to 0.14.5
Unfortunately, I won't be able to help with any of that, as I'll be away
next week. If people don't care too much about 860, then let's move it
to 0.14.4, and wait for a --presumably working -- apr(-util) 0.9.2 and
httpd 2.0.41, then roll.
--
Brane Čibej <br...@xbc.nu> http://www.xbc.nu/brane/
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Re: release thoughts? (was: svn commit: rev 3163)
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net> writes:
> When we release 0.14.3, I wanna be able to tell people "this builds
> against apr(-util) 0.9.1 and httpd-2.0.41." Bing, bang, boom, they
> get the correct release tarballs, and it works.
>
> Building against released tarballs provides warm fuzzy feelings,
> while telling people to checkout bleeding edge cvs trees does not.
>
> So can we wait till httpd-2.0.41 is released this weekend (and
> apr-util as well)?
Yah -- that would be very nice.
I'm also fine w/ releasing a 0.14.3 that has different bugfixes than
originally planned, and shifting the original issues forward into
0.14.4, 0.14.5, etc. But let's wait for apr and httpd.
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Re: release thoughts? (was: svn commit: rev 3163)
Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> writes:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2002, at 07:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > Hmm. But a release doesn't have to have CN devs' changes in
> > it. Should we go
> > ahead and make a 0.14.3 release "soon", which incorporates all of this
> > recent work?
> >
> > To that end, I'd ask the devs: do you feel that some good forward
> > motion has
> > occurred since 0.14.2? Should we make a release to incorporate that?
> > When?
>
> personally, i think a release is in order relatively soon, if only to
> get all of philip's bug fixes out to the world so he doesn't have to
> keep saying 'i already fixed that in rev FOO'. ;-)
>
> on the other hand, if there's going to be another release of apr-util
> and apr soon (like the next day or so), then i would be in favor of
> waiting for that, since it would be quite nice to be able to point
> people at a real apr/apr-util release. we can't really send them to
> the 0.9.1 tarballs, since apr-util won't even configure out of the box.
I soooooooooo agree.
When we release 0.14.3, I wanna be able to tell people "this builds
against apr(-util) 0.9.1 and httpd-2.0.41." Bing, bang, boom, they
get the correct release tarballs, and it works.
Building against released tarballs provides warm fuzzy feelings,
while telling people to checkout bleeding edge cvs trees does not.
So can we wait till httpd-2.0.41 is released this weekend (and
apr-util as well)?
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Re: release thoughts? (was: svn commit: rev 3163)
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, at 07:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Hmm. But a release doesn't have to have CN devs' changes in it. Should
> we go
> ahead and make a 0.14.3 release "soon", which incorporates all of this
> recent work?
>
> To that end, I'd ask the devs: do you feel that some good forward
> motion has
> occurred since 0.14.2? Should we make a release to incorporate that?
> When?
personally, i think a release is in order relatively soon, if only to
get all of philip's bug fixes out to the world so he doesn't have to
keep saying 'i already fixed that in rev FOO'. ;-)
on the other hand, if there's going to be another release of apr-util
and apr soon (like the next day or so), then i would be in favor of
waiting for that, since it would be quite nice to be able to point
people at a real apr/apr-util release. we can't really send them to
the 0.9.1 tarballs, since apr-util won't even configure out of the box.
-garrett
--
garrett rooney Remember, any design flaw you're
rooneg@electricjellyfish.net sufficiently snide about becomes
http://electricjellyfish.net/ a feature. -- Dan Sugalski
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release thoughts? (was: svn commit: rev 3163)
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:36:07PM -0500, Karl Fogel wrote:
> I just made another pushback on the milestone, for reasons that will
> be familiar to anyone who works for a company with customers :-).
>
> The CollabNet folk are needed for other work within CollabNet right
> now, and it wasn't realistic to meet the milestone with Subversion
> development temporarily underpowered (though thank goodness for Brane,
> Philip, Garrett, and the others who have been keeping things going).
Hmm. But a release doesn't have to have CN devs' changes in it. Should we go
ahead and make a 0.14.3 release "soon", which incorporates all of this
recent work?
To that end, I'd ask the devs: do you feel that some good forward motion has
occurred since 0.14.2? Should we make a release to incorporate that? When?
Cheers,
-g
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
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