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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> on 2012/08/30 12:57:00 UTC

Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

This morning the en-Forum received the following query
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992

To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Rob Weir <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:

> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>
> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
>

I don't think there is anything in principle that prevents this. We
just need a volunteer to set it up.

Some companies (like my employer) have policies that forbid running
P2P file sharing services, so I can't do this directly.

-Rob


> --
> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Issac Goldstand <is...@volo-net.com>.
I asked infra yesterday - no ack yet...

On 9/20/2012 5:26 PM, Donald Whytock wrote:
> Has anyone asked/is anyone asking Infra about a torrent tracker?
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Rory
>>>
>>> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
>>>> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>>>>
>>>> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
>>> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
>>> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
>>> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
>>> have no Torrent Tracker.
>> Yeah!
>>
>>> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
>>> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>>>
>>> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>> Me too.
>>
>> I can help create torrent tracker, but first remember how do.
>>
>> Albino


Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi

A brief knowledge about P2P (Peer-to-Peer)

The principial goal is to share anything you want.

How do?
You create a TORRENT file on your computer and upload it to a public
or private tracker, so it will just stay and just TORRENT file will be
downloaded to your computer / server.

I hope I helped.

Albino

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I doubt they would set one up just for us.  And most other Apache
> projects have much smaller distributions, so I don't think there is a
> wider Apache need for this.

I also think.

> Could we just use a public tracker, like PublicBitTorrent?  And host
> the .torrent files on our website, linked to from the download page
> (or a page under it)?

Yeah! Could was good idea. Maybe so in principle can use.

Other public trakcer:
http://www.mininova.org/ - Has know.
http://www.torentcrestin.net/

Albino

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone asked/is anyone asking Infra about a torrent tracker?
>

I doubt they would set one up just for us.  And most other Apache
projects have much smaller distributions, so I don't think there is a
wider Apache need for this.

Could we just use a public tracker, like PublicBitTorrent?  And host
the .torrent files on our website, linked to from the download page
(or a page under it)?

-Rob

> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Rory
>>>
>>> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
>>>> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>>>>
>>>> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
>>> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
>>> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
>>> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
>>> have no Torrent Tracker.
>>
>> Yeah!
>>
>>> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
>>> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>>>
>>> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>> I can help create torrent tracker, but first remember how do.
>>
>> Albino

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
Has anyone asked/is anyone asking Infra about a torrent tracker?

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Rory
>>
>> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
>>> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>>>
>>> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
>> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
>> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
>> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
>> have no Torrent Tracker.
>
> Yeah!
>
>> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
>> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>>
>> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>
> Me too.
>
> I can help create torrent tracker, but first remember how do.
>
> Albino

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Rory
>
> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
>> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>>
>> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
> have no Torrent Tracker.

Yeah!

> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>
> I'm willing to host a seeding peer

Me too.

I can help create torrent tracker, but first remember how do.

Albino

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com>.
On 8/30/2012 08:09, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:10:37 +0200
> Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rory
>>
>> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
>>> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>>>
>>> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
>> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
>> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
>> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
>> have no Torrent Tracker.
>>
>> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
>> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>>
>> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>>
>> Greetings Raphael
>>
>>
> Thank you, Raphael.  I'll reply to the query that torrent downloads are under consideration and that I will post further information when/if available.
>
Hi, Rory, Raphael,

The technical side is no problem: anybody can distribute AOO, by any 
means from torrent to carrier pigeon. The problem is, do we put a link 
on the AOO site? The PMC is going to want to get involved with that.

Good luck.
/tj/



Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:10:37 +0200
Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Rory
> 
> Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > This morning the en-Forum received the following query
> > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
> >
> > To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
> At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
> would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
> the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
> have no Torrent Tracker.
> 
> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
> 
> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
> 
> Greetings Raphael
> 
> 
Thank you, Raphael.  I'll reply to the query that torrent downloads are under consideration and that I will post further information when/if available.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
It's more than cool.  A proper torrent client is a step up from an
ordinary download manager in that it's tolerant of both poor
connections and instances of blocked paths to a specific connection.
It doesn't resume interrupted downloads as much as handle downloads in
whatever quantities it can get.

I have a cable modem in a Washington DC area suburb, and yet my
connection's sufficiently flaky that torrenting works better than
direct-downloading, even with a download manager.  I assume a lot of
the world isn't as well-connected as me.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
>> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>>
>> I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>
> Wouldn´t this impact on the tracking of downloads? I mean... the
> SourceForge download stats will no longer be the true download count.
> How would Apache track torrent downloads and add the numbers to the
> SF.net stats?.
>
> I think this is a valid concern...
>
> Plus, torrents are good to save on bandwidth, but lack of bandwidth
> with SF.net´s network of world-wide mirrors doesn´t seem to be the
> case here. So, again, why the need for a torrent?. "because it´s cool"
> doesn´t hold, IMHO...
> FC

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2012/9/20 Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
> > for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
> >
> > I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>
> Wouldn´t this impact on the tracking of downloads? I mean... the
> SourceForge download stats will no longer be the true download count.
> How would Apache track torrent downloads and add the numbers to the
> SF.net stats?.
>
> I think this is a valid concern...
>
> Plus, torrents are good to save on bandwidth, but lack of bandwidth
> with SF.net´s network of world-wide mirrors doesn´t seem to be the
> case here. So, again, why the need for a torrent?. "because it´s cool"
> doesn´t hold, IMHO...
>

Agree. IMO, we can help our users a lot more by pointing them to an
opensource, multi-platform download manager like uGet, downthemall! firefox
extension and others.

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Roberto Galoppini <rg...@geek.net>.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
> > for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
> >
> > I'm willing to host a seeding peer
>
> Wouldn´t this impact on the tracking of downloads? I mean... the
> SourceForge download stats will no longer be the true download count.
> How would Apache track torrent downloads and add the numbers to the
> SF.net stats?.
>
> I think this is a valid concern...
>

It depends on the infrastructure you use to serve torrents. Most of them
provide the total number of downloads.
The Apache OpenOffice download counter uses SF APIs, it should just add
those to the total.

Roberto


>
> Plus, torrents are good to save on bandwidth, but lack of bandwidth
> with SF.net´s network of world-wide mirrors doesn´t seem to be the
> case here. So, again, why the need for a torrent?. "because it´s cool"
> doesn´t hold, IMHO...
> FC
>

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Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org> wrote:
> But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
> for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.
>
> I'm willing to host a seeding peer

Wouldn´t this impact on the tracking of downloads? I mean... the
SourceForge download stats will no longer be the true download count.
How would Apache track torrent downloads and add the numbers to the
SF.net stats?.

I think this is a valid concern...

Plus, torrents are good to save on bandwidth, but lack of bandwidth
with SF.net´s network of world-wide mirrors doesn´t seem to be the
case here. So, again, why the need for a torrent?. "because it´s cool"
doesn´t hold, IMHO...
FC

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>.
Hi Rory

Am 30.08.12 12:57, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> This morning the en-Forum received the following query
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55992
>
> To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x, as there had been for OOo 3.3 and earlier.
At the Moment no. But it's not the first request for torrent. Torrent
would be also interesting for unofficial Developer builds, to distribute
the load a bit on defferent computer. The problem is: at the Moment we
have no Torrent Tracker.

But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker
for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project.

I'm willing to host a seeding peer

Greetings Raphael