status meeting May 28, 2009

[Kurt T Stam <ku...@gmail.com>]

KurtStam: so it looks like our beta3 list is nice and clean.
[11:12am] KurtStam: I know Tom is still working on an end2end test for 
subscriptions
[11:12am] KurtStam: Tom want to jump in?
[11:12am] tcunning: sure
[11:13am] tcunning: i'm just finishing up a test which sets 
subscriptions, changes objects, and tests for output coming back from 
the notifier service
[11:13am] tcunning: that's all i have left
[11:14am] tcunning: is there anything else outstanding?
[11:14am] KurtStam: no, but it'd be good to know things work before we 
declare victory on subscriptions
[11:14am] tcunning: true
[11:15am] tcunning: what else can we do to get there?
[11:15am] KurtStam: Is there anything we need to document?
[11:16am] tcunning: i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff to document
[11:17am] KurtStam: what did you mean with "what else can we do to get 
there?"?
[11:17am] tcunning: well is my test all we need to declare victory on 
subscriptions?
[11:18am] KurtStam: well we are unit testing the components, this would 
be the integration test, and for beta that would be good enough for me.
[11:19am] KurtStam: do you need help the test?
[11:19am] tcunning: not right now
[11:19am] KurtStam: k
[11:19am] tcunning: just went through the user guide
[11:19am] tcunning: there's nothing on subscriptions in there
[11:19am] KurtStam: yeah we have to add some
[11:19am] tcunning: are you going to add the clerks stuff?
[11:19am] KurtStam: I can take a shot at it
[11:20am] KurtStam: I will also make a run on openjpa
[11:20am] KurtStam: maybe we can base this release on openjpa?
[11:22am] KurtStam: anyway Jeff do you see anything besides docs and the 
integration test?
[11:22am] jfaath: no, I think we're good
[11:22am] KurtStam: cool, so maybe we aim for starting a vote over the 
weekend?
[11:22am] jfaath: I've been working with it internally, and things seem 
to work pretty well
[11:22am] KurtStam: cool
[11:23am] KurtStam: have you used subscriptions?
[11:23am] jfaath: no, the main apis only, inquiry, publishing
[11:23am] KurtStam: k
[11:23am] KurtStam: anything else on beta? Should be talk about 3.0?
[11:24am] tcunning: sure
[11:25am] KurtStam: k
[11:25am] KurtStam: I add 2 taks for beta
[11:25am] KurtStam: docs and integration test
[11:25am] KurtStam: so let's talk 3.0 then
[11:26am] KurtStam: in my mind it is a mostly stability and console work
[11:27am] KurtStam: do we have to add tasks to what there is now?
[11:27am] tcunning: i don't mind taking one of the portlets
[11:28am] jfaath: well, in terms of apis, other than replication, 
there's the value set stuff
[11:28am] tcunning: looks like we have axis support
[11:28am] jfaath: which i think is small
[11:28am] jfaath: but I see those are there
[11:28am] KurtStam: I think we need to implement subscription on the server
[11:28am] KurtStam: so that you can keep 2 servers in sync
[11:29am] KurtStam: for certain services
[11:29am] KurtStam: let me add that task
[11:30am] jfaath: right, you might want to mention chapter 8 in the spec 
which talks about using subscription for stuff like that
[11:30am] tcunning: i'd vote to close JUDDI-233
[11:30am] KurtStam: should be do it for beta?
[11:31am] tcunning: no
[11:31am] jfaath: are we still going to support axis?
[11:31am] tcunning: i think so
[11:31am] tcunning: i just don't think we should combine the modules
[11:32am] KurtStam: what is the against using a profile?
[11:32am] tcunning: i think separate modules is cleaner
[11:32am] KurtStam: but that means we have jsp etc in 2 places
[11:33am] tcunning: we'll have two giant profiles with mlutiple plugins
[11:33am] KurtStam: it should only be a compile/package options?
[11:33am] tcunning: if we want a shared war target that both inherit 
from that'd be fine for me
[11:34am] KurtStam: k, let's do that, then we can always see if it's 
worth it to do a profile
[11:34am] tcunning: plus if we add other implementations later it'd be 
easier if they are separate
[11:34am] KurtStam: at least we have no duplication then
[11:36am] KurtStam: should I create a 3.1 version so we can add stuff 
like replication?
[11:36am] KurtStam: and track what we think about replication anyway
[11:37am] jfaath: sounds fine
[11:37am] tcunning: i thought we agreed not to do replication?    is 
this just sort of as a cover?
[11:38am] KurtStam: well I think we decided that for now we are not 
going to it. but we might offer an alternative down the road
[11:39am] tcunning: sure, we can always boot on down to 3.2 or 3.3
[11:40am] jfaath: hopefully, juddi will gain some traction in the 
community and we can get some help
[11:41am] KurtStam: right
[11:41am] KurtStam: I added it
[11:41am] KurtStam: feel free to add other stuff to 3.1 when you think of it
[11:41am] KurtStam: so should we aim for 3.0 end of june?
[11:42am] jfaath: that'd be cool
[11:43am] KurtStam: cool
[11:43am] KurtStam: question for you guys
[11:44am] KurtStam: we register our InquiryService as an endpoint in jUDDI
[11:44am] KurtStam: I think this is per the spec right?
[11:44am] KurtStam: but it contains 'localhost' and port 8080.
[11:44am] KurtStam: so if you move the server this data becomes invalid.
[11:45am] KurtStam: how useful is 'localhost' anyway?
[11:45am] KurtStam: what is the user supposed to fo?
[11:45am] KurtStam: do
[11:45am] jfaath: welcome to the main criticism of UDDI, that it's not 
dynamic
[11:45am] jfaath: users will have to edit that file to match their location
[11:46am] KurtStam: but that means a reinstall?
[11:46am] jfaath: well, they can edit those service endpoints just like 
any entity
[11:46am] jfaath: if it changes
[11:46am] tcunning: we should probably make it really easy to change that
[11:47am] jfaath: it's as easy as calling save_binding
[11:47am] KurtStam: k, still looking to see if I can use my annotations 
there
[11:47am] KurtStam: but I'm having some 'bootstrap' issues
[11:49am] KurtStam: k this is helpful info
[11:49am] KurtStam: what else?
[11:50am] jfaath: do a wrap up?
[11:51am] KurtStam: sure
[11:51am] KurtStam: tom?
[11:52am] tcunning: sure
[11:53am] KurtStam: k plz let us know about the integration test if you 
get stuck
[11:53am] tcunning: will do
[11:53am] KurtStam: k cheers then
[11:53am] KurtStam: good work
[11:54am] jfaath: oh, i thought we were going to sum up next steps
[11:54am] jfaath: in the wrap up
[11:54am] KurtStam: oh
[11:54am] KurtStam: well fix the two tasks for beta
[11:54am] tcunning: i'm working on my test
[11:54am] KurtStam: I just added them
[11:54am] tcunning: i'll doc notification listener
[11:54am] KurtStam: I'll start a vote when those 2 are done. hopefully 
over the weekend
[11:55am] jfaath: cool
[11:55am] KurtStam: then work on 3.0
[11:55am] jfaath: yep, i'll take a look at those tasks
[11:55am] tcunning: ok
[11:55am] jfaath: probably in a week or so
[11:55am] KurtStam: k
[11:56am] jfaath: excellent, now we can wrap it up!
[11:59am] jfaath: ok, take it easy guys