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OpenOffice is unreliable
For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save every
few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
my project will still be there.
Good bye OpenOffice!
Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
Which operating system are you under, windows is a highly unstable
operating system as a 15 years linux user. OOo/AOO has only crash on
me around 5 times.
On 8/20/14, jonathon <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/18/2014 2:59 PM, James Lambert wrote:
>> Where did you get your copy of Open Office. If it was not fro Apachie
>> Openoffice.com, It is no wonder you had trouble.
>
> The original poster didn't provide any specifics about the alleged
> crashes. I no longer submit bug reports, because they are invariably
> closed as "won't fix".
>
> Having said all that, there are conditions under which Apache OpenOffice
> will crash, but neither LibreOffice, nor EuroOffice will crash.
> There are conditions under which LibreOffice will crash, but neither
> EuroOffice nor Apache Open Office will crash.
> There are conditions under which EuroOffice will crash, but neither
> LibreOffice, nor Apache Open Office will crash.
>
> As a general rule, I switch office suites, when I am about to enter the
> conditions that cause the office suite I am using to crash. For some
> circumstances, switching office suites won't help, because the
> functionality I need is present in only one of those office suites.
>
> jonathon
>
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by jonathon <to...@gmail.com>.
On 8/18/2014 2:59 PM, James Lambert wrote:
> Where did you get your copy of Open Office. If it was not fro Apachie Openoffice.com, It is no wonder you had trouble.
The original poster didn't provide any specifics about the alleged
crashes. I no longer submit bug reports, because they are invariably
closed as "won't fix".
Having said all that, there are conditions under which Apache OpenOffice
will crash, but neither LibreOffice, nor EuroOffice will crash.
There are conditions under which LibreOffice will crash, but neither
EuroOffice nor Apache Open Office will crash.
There are conditions under which EuroOffice will crash, but neither
LibreOffice, nor Apache Open Office will crash.
As a general rule, I switch office suites, when I am about to enter the
conditions that cause the office suite I am using to crash. For some
circumstances, switching office suites won't help, because the
functionality I need is present in only one of those office suites.
jonathon
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by James Lambert <jl...@inebraska.com>.
Where did you get your copy of Open Office. If it was not fro Apachie
Openoffice.com, It is no wonder you had trouble.
James Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Cassia
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:22 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com <
geoffrey.schulz@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
> the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
>
Open Office has been over 15 years in the making (counting only from the
time Sun Microsystems bought Stardivision) . All software has bugs, and
bugs are fixed. That's why Windows downloads updates via WindowsUpdate
every "Patch Tuesday" and why Linux is updated all the time via your
package manager/system updater.
If you look in the changelog for the soon-to-be-released version 4.1.1, you
will see several bug fixes related to crashes too.
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html
Why don't you wait a few weeks and then try the updated 4.1.1? It would be
silly to make a drastic determination based on a handful of nasty bugs that
have been already fixed.
FC
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com <
geoffrey.schulz@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
> the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
>
Open Office has been over 15 years in the making (counting only from the
time Sun Microsystems bought Stardivision) . All software has bugs, and
bugs are fixed. That's why Windows downloads updates via WindowsUpdate
every "Patch Tuesday" and why Linux is updated all the time via your
package manager/system updater.
If you look in the changelog for the soon-to-be-released version 4.1.1, you
will see several bug fixes related to crashes too.
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html
Why don't you wait a few weeks and then try the updated 4.1.1? It would be
silly to make a drastic determination based on a handful of nasty bugs that
have been already fixed.
FC
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by James Lambert <jl...@inebraska.com>.
I find OpenOffice completely reliable
James Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:00 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org ; geoffrey.schulz@dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> OpenOffice has a backup location where you can recover your latest
> versions of your work. You access it from Options -> General -> Paths
>
> You can see where backup resides and get yuour documents.
>
> Also when you suffer from unexpected crashes, you are always presented
> with a crash report to fill out. At this stage this is not nearly a
> crash report which is completely useless to learn from it.
>
>
> On 8/17/14, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
> <ge...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I
> say
> > the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> > It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save
> every
> > few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when
> > it
> > crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> > and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
> > ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or
> > not
> > my project will still be there.
> >
> > Good bye OpenOffice!
> >
>
So very sorry to hear about your problems and now your abandoning of
OpenOffice.
It would be be very helpful to us if you tell us a bit more about your
environment : OS version, RAM size, etc . -- so we can determine how to
correct whatever is causing this to happen. And, what versions have you
used of OpenOffice? Which version are you using now?
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Doug <dm...@optonline.net>.
On 08/17/2014 08:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
/snip/
> On 8/17/14, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
> <ge...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I
>> say
>>> the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
>>> It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save
>> every
>>> few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
>>> crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
>>> and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
>>> ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
>>> my project will still be there.
>>>
>>> Good bye OpenOffice!
>>>
>>>
/snip/
You might want to look for SoftMaker Free Office, if it's still
available. I used
it for a little while, then I bought the full version. It's about $80.
Word Processor,
Spread Sheet, and Presentations. I think that's not a bad price for an
office suite.
I like the way it works. It's not so stubborn about styles like OO or
LO. And it reads
and writes MS formats, including docx. The folks there will answer
questions, if
you have a problem you can't figure out how to solve. I think you can
use styles
if you want to. I don't.
(I have no personal interest in the company, which is in Germany.)
--doug
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> OpenOffice has a backup location where you can recover your latest
> versions of your work. You access it from Options -> General -> Paths
>
> You can see where backup resides and get yuour documents.
>
> Also when you suffer from unexpected crashes, you are always presented
> with a crash report to fill out. At this stage this is not nearly a
> crash report which is completely useless to learn from it.
>
>
> On 8/17/14, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
> <ge...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I
> say
> > the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> > It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save
> every
> > few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
> > crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> > and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
> > ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
> > my project will still be there.
> >
> > Good bye OpenOffice!
> >
>
So very sorry to hear about your problems and now your abandoning of
OpenOffice.
It would be be very helpful to us if you tell us a bit more about your
environment : OS version, RAM size, etc . -- so we can determine how to
correct whatever is causing this to happen. And, what versions have you
used of OpenOffice? Which version are you using now?
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
OpenOffice has a backup location where you can recover your latest
versions of your work. You access it from Options -> General -> Paths
You can see where backup resides and get yuour documents.
Also when you suffer from unexpected crashes, you are always presented
with a crash report to fill out. At this stage this is not nearly a
crash report which is completely useless to learn from it.
On 8/17/14, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
<ge...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
> the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save every
> few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
> crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
> ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
> my project will still be there.
>
> Good bye OpenOffice!
>
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by TN Patriot <ir...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:55:39 -0700
Bob Holtzman <ho...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:09:10PM -0700, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
> wrote:
> > For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
> > the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> > It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save every
> > few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
> > crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> > and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
> > ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
> > my project will still be there.
> >
> > Good bye OpenOffice!
>
> Did it ever occur to you that thousands (tens of thousands?) of people
> happily use the program with few if any problems.
>
> Could it be that the problem isn't with the program?
>
Exactly. 50% of the time it's PEBKAC.
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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable
Posted by Bob Holtzman <ho...@cox.net>.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:09:10PM -0700, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com wrote:
> For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work. I say
> the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save every
> few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
> crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> and replaced it with a blank document. I'm tired of not knowing what
> ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
> my project will still be there.
>
> Good bye OpenOffice!
Did it ever occur to you that thousands (tens of thousands?) of people
happily use the program with few if any problems.
Could it be that the problem isn't with the program?
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