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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Jason Pyeron <ja...@pyeron.com> on 2003/01/07 18:26:44 UTC

RE: RPMs [off topic: why rpm?]

RPMs provide transaction level control for system modification. When you 
install an application manually, you ASSUME that the administrator has 
investigated ALL interactions and dependences. Can correctly uninstall the 
package when needed, rembers it is installed.

Now rpm puts these details on the packager, who is assumed to have 
knowledge of the workings of the application.

But lastly, there are services that can issue updates automaticly as 
needed. Esp for security.

on RedHat there is the Red Hat Network
on Windows there is windows update

That being said, our Systems admin are not allowed to install ANY 
application, patch any software without using/creating a RPM. This is 
company policy, the same goes for our windows boxes. 

-jason

On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:


Actually, the release builds have moved to a new scenario, basically the
same as Apache HTTP.  Tomcat release binaries are available from various
mirror sites.  On any given mirror, there are only /bin and /src, and in
/bin there are the full versions and the LE versions.  I think RPMs went
away with 4.1.17, though I could be wrong.

In any case, you can find pre-4.1.18 RPMs here:

http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/archives/

On that note, there's no need for an RPM for Tomcat, in my opinion.  The
only thing a RPM adds (AFAIK) is the creation of a tomcat user and the
installation of a start/stop init script.  Both tasks are easily completed
manually, leaving just the need for the binaries themselves.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jason@pyeron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:08 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: RPMs
> 
> 
> i think the general tree structure is as follows:
> 
> 
> /.../bin
>     /rpm
>     /src
> 
> 
> different builds move around the tree, and not all builds 
> have rpms (at 
> least until some one builds them)
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> 
> where are all the RPMs for the 4.1.X versions of Tomcat?
> 
> 
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