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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> on 2011/10/11 13:16:25 UTC

Re: svn commit: r1181689 - /subversion/site/publish/packages.html

Ivan: you should NEVER revert somebody else's commit like this. That
is just anti-social. *Especially* with "I'm reverting, but not
bothering to say why; but I'll tell you later". That is even more
jacked up.

If you've got a problem, then we discuss it *before* you go and revert
somebody's change. And frankly: the changes I made are not
"significant". They were simply clarifications, and removal of links
that do not directly provide Apache Subversion releases. We had this
discussion back in July.

If you feel there is something wrong with some part of the change,
then point it out. But reverting *all* of my change? No. That's bad.

-g

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 06:28,  <iv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Author: ivan
> Date: Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
> New Revision: 1181689
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1181689&view=rev
> Log:
> Revert r1181630: Making significant changes of website that haven't
> discussed. I will post details on dev@s.a.o later.
>
> Modified:
>    subversion/site/publish/packages.html
>
> Modified: subversion/site/publish/packages.html
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/packages.html?rev=1181689&r1=1181688&r2=1181689&view=diff
> ==============================================================================
> --- subversion/site/publish/packages.html (original)
> +++ subversion/site/publish/packages.html Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
>        >Michael Perzl</a>)</p>
>  </li>
>  <li><p><a href="http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html"
> -       >openCollabNet</a> (version 1.4.6; maintained by
> +       >openCollabNet</a> (maintained by
>        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
>        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@
>
>  <ul>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@
>  <div class="package" style="background-image: url('/images/fedora.png');">
>
>  <ul>
> -<li><p><a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=752"
> +<li><p><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/subversion"
>        >Fedora Project</a> (maintained by
>        <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/jorton"
>        >Joe Orton</a>)</p>
> @@ -262,8 +262,11 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
>        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> +<li><p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/tools/"
> +    >Apple's Developer Tools</a> (<i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> +</li>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#osx">
> -        WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +        WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
>        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -282,7 +285,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>
>  <ul>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -310,10 +313,15 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>
>  <ul>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/solaris.html"
> -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
> +       >CollabNet</a> (SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> +<li><p><a href="http://www.sunfreeware.com/"
> +       >Sunfreeware</a> (SPARC/i386; maintained by
> +       <a href="mailto:steve@smc.vnet.net"
> +       >Steven M. Christensen</a>)</p>
> +</li>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion"
>        >OpenCSW</a> (SPARC/i386;
>        <a href="http://www.opencsw.org/maintainers/rupert"
> @@ -339,7 +347,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>
>  <ul>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -392,7 +400,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>
>  <ul>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/"
> -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +       >CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
> @@ -403,8 +411,13 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>        <a href="http://sharpsvn.open.collab.net/"
>        >SharpSvn project</a>)</p>
>  </li>
> +<li><p><a href="http://www.visualsvn.com/server"
> +       >VisualSVN Server</a> (Subversion server installer and management console; maintained by
> +       <a href="http://www.visualsvn.com"
> +       >VisualSVN</a>)</p>
> +</li>
>  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#windows"
> -       >WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> +       >WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
>        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
>        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>  </li>
>
>
>

Re: svn commit: r1181689 - /subversion/site/publish/packages.html

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
If they have a binary that will help our users who are looking for
one... sure. If it is just a client, then annotate that. A couple of
the links had the client-only annotation, and I just replicated that
to the other links which were similarly client-only.

If the link also provides a server, then cool. Tho I still wonder
about whether we need to clarify link targets who provide only
svnserve or mod_dav_svn; users are likely to be looking for a specific
server type, and may be disappointed when they click thru and fail to
find what they need.

Cheers,
-g

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 07:38, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> By the way: does TortoiseSVN ship binaries of svn.exe for stable
> versoins?  Do we want to list them on the page?
>
> Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 07:16:25 -0400:
>> Ivan: you should NEVER revert somebody else's commit like this. That
>> is just anti-social. *Especially* with "I'm reverting, but not
>> bothering to say why; but I'll tell you later". That is even more
>> jacked up.
>>
>> If you've got a problem, then we discuss it *before* you go and revert
>> somebody's change. And frankly: the changes I made are not
>> "significant". They were simply clarifications, and removal of links
>> that do not directly provide Apache Subversion releases. We had this
>> discussion back in July.
>>
>> If you feel there is something wrong with some part of the change,
>> then point it out. But reverting *all* of my change? No. That's bad.
>>
>> -g
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 06:28,  <iv...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Author: ivan
>> > Date: Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
>> > New Revision: 1181689
>> >
>> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1181689&view=rev
>> > Log:
>> > Revert r1181630: Making significant changes of website that haven't
>> > discussed. I will post details on dev@s.a.o later.
>> >
>> > Modified:
>> >    subversion/site/publish/packages.html
>> >
>> > Modified: subversion/site/publish/packages.html
>> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/packages.html?rev=1181689&r1=1181688&r2=1181689&view=diff
>> > ==============================================================================
>> > --- subversion/site/publish/packages.html (original)
>> > +++ subversion/site/publish/packages.html Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
>> > @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
>> >        >Michael Perzl</a>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html"
>> > -       >openCollabNet</a> (version 1.4.6; maintained by
>> > +       >openCollabNet</a> (maintained by
>> >        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
>> >        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
>> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@
>> >  <div class="package" style="background-image: url('/images/fedora.png');">
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> > -<li><p><a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=752"
>> > +<li><p><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/subversion"
>> >        >Fedora Project</a> (maintained by
>> >        <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/jorton"
>> >        >Joe Orton</a>)</p>
>> > @@ -262,8 +262,11 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
>> >        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > +<li><p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/tools/"
>> > +    >Apple's Developer Tools</a> (<i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> > +</li>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#osx">
>> > -        WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +        WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
>> >        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -282,7 +285,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
>> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -310,10 +313,15 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/solaris.html"
>> > -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
>> > +       >CollabNet</a> (SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > +<li><p><a href="http://www.sunfreeware.com/"
>> > +       >Sunfreeware</a> (SPARC/i386; maintained by
>> > +       <a href="mailto:steve@smc.vnet.net"
>> > +       >Steven M. Christensen</a>)</p>
>> > +</li>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion"
>> >        >OpenCSW</a> (SPARC/i386;
>> >        <a href="http://www.opencsw.org/maintainers/rupert"
>> > @@ -339,7 +347,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
>> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -392,7 +400,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >
>> >  <ul>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/"
>> > -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +       >CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > @@ -403,8 +411,13 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>> >        <a href="http://sharpsvn.open.collab.net/"
>> >        >SharpSvn project</a>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> > +<li><p><a href="http://www.visualsvn.com/server"
>> > +       >VisualSVN Server</a> (Subversion server installer and management console; maintained by
>> > +       <a href="http://www.visualsvn.com"
>> > +       >VisualSVN</a>)</p>
>> > +</li>
>> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#windows"
>> > -       >WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
>> > +       >WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
>> >        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
>> >        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
>> >  </li>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Re: svn commit: r1181689 - /subversion/site/publish/packages.html

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
By the way: does TortoiseSVN ship binaries of svn.exe for stable
versoins?  Do we want to list them on the page?

Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 07:16:25 -0400:
> Ivan: you should NEVER revert somebody else's commit like this. That
> is just anti-social. *Especially* with "I'm reverting, but not
> bothering to say why; but I'll tell you later". That is even more
> jacked up.
> 
> If you've got a problem, then we discuss it *before* you go and revert
> somebody's change. And frankly: the changes I made are not
> "significant". They were simply clarifications, and removal of links
> that do not directly provide Apache Subversion releases. We had this
> discussion back in July.
> 
> If you feel there is something wrong with some part of the change,
> then point it out. But reverting *all* of my change? No. That's bad.
> 
> -g
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 06:28,  <iv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Author: ivan
> > Date: Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
> > New Revision: 1181689
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1181689&view=rev
> > Log:
> > Revert r1181630: Making significant changes of website that haven't
> > discussed. I will post details on dev@s.a.o later.
> >
> > Modified:
> >    subversion/site/publish/packages.html
> >
> > Modified: subversion/site/publish/packages.html
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/packages.html?rev=1181689&r1=1181688&r2=1181689&view=diff
> > ==============================================================================
> > --- subversion/site/publish/packages.html (original)
> > +++ subversion/site/publish/packages.html Tue Oct 11 10:28:56 2011
> > @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
> >        >Michael Perzl</a>)</p>
> >  </li>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html"
> > -       >openCollabNet</a> (version 1.4.6; maintained by
> > +       >openCollabNet</a> (maintained by
> >        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
> >        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@
> >
> >  <ul>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@
> >  <div class="package" style="background-image: url('/images/fedora.png');">
> >
> >  <ul>
> > -<li><p><a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=752"
> > +<li><p><a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/subversion"
> >        >Fedora Project</a> (maintained by
> >        <a href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/jorton"
> >        >Joe Orton</a>)</p>
> > @@ -262,8 +262,11 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >        <a href="mailto:facilitators@svnbinaries.open.collab.net"
> >        >Jeremy Whitlock</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > +<li><p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/tools/"
> > +    >Apple's Developer Tools</a> (<i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> > +</li>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#osx">
> > -        WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +        WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
> >        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -282,7 +285,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >
> >  <ul>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -310,10 +313,15 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >
> >  <ul>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/solaris.html"
> > -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
> > +       >CollabNet</a> (SPARC/x86; supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > +<li><p><a href="http://www.sunfreeware.com/"
> > +       >Sunfreeware</a> (SPARC/i386; maintained by
> > +       <a href="mailto:steve@smc.vnet.net"
> > +       >Steven M. Christensen</a>)</p>
> > +</li>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion"
> >        >OpenCSW</a> (SPARC/i386;
> >        <a href="http://www.opencsw.org/maintainers/rupert"
> > @@ -339,7 +347,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >
> >  <ul>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
> > -        CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +        CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -392,7 +400,7 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >
> >  <ul>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/"
> > -       >CollabNet</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +       >CollabNet</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
> >        >CollabNet</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > @@ -403,8 +411,13 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
> >        <a href="http://sharpsvn.open.collab.net/"
> >        >SharpSvn project</a>)</p>
> >  </li>
> > +<li><p><a href="http://www.visualsvn.com/server"
> > +       >VisualSVN Server</a> (Subversion server installer and management console; maintained by
> > +       <a href="http://www.visualsvn.com"
> > +       >VisualSVN</a>)</p>
> > +</li>
> >  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#windows"
> > -       >WANdisco</a> (client only; supported and certified by
> > +       >WANdisco</a> (supported and certified by
> >        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
> >        >WANdisco</a>; <i>requires registration</i>)</p>
> >  </li>
> >
> >
> >