Re: Users' Wish-list

[Bob Dionne <di...@dionne-associates.com>]

it's interesting, I"m not sure how large or broad a user sampling this is but the top three requests seem to be:

1. Chained map/reduce

2. Partial doc updates

3. Native FTI

I don't quite get #2 but #1 and #3 have been around a long time


On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Alon Keren wrote:

> I've decided that it would make sense if the wishlist focused not just on
> CouchDB proper, but also on the ecosystem of tools (and plugins?) around it.
> After all, some desired features may appear faster outside of couch proper
> (like full-text search in couchdb-lucene), and other stuff may never be
> exactly right to be included out of the box (like document versioning).
> 
> Thoughts and feedback welcome,
> 
>  Alon
> 
> On 26 April 2012 20:58, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Following the excellent initiative by couch devs with the recent
>> feature-survey [1] [2], I figured it would be worth while to have a
>> permanent wish-list for just user-facing features; a place for users to put
>> their own ideas and feature-requests, and to vote on others'.
>> 
>> Such a wish-list serves two obvious purposes:
>> 1. helping users raise awareness for their needs. I don't find JIRA
>> accessible or visible enough for this purpose. This would result in:
>> 2. helping developers (and would-be developers) keep tabs on what features
>> the community is really missing, and which it isn't
>> 
>> I started a wish-list here: http://couchdbwishlist.userecho.com/. I
>> seeded it from Bob Newson's compilation of potential features [3], and I
>> really hope to see things added and voted on, and to get the ball rolling.
>> 
>> For those interested, some of the reasons I went with userecho:
>> - simple voting scheme (albeit not as informative as allourideas's)
>> - relatively rich text editor
>> - comments
>> - clean interface
>> - free (albeit as in beer)
>> 
>> I would more than welcome any ideas or suggestions.
>> 
>> Relax on,
>> 
>>  Alon
>>  (http://alon.me)
>> 
>> [1] http://www.allourideas.org/couchdb2012/results
>> [2]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/201204.mbox/browser
>> [3] https://gist.github.com/2387973
>> 
>> 

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Mark Hahn <ma...@hahnca.com>]

>   "partial updates" can be easy to work-around using update handlers.

I'm doing that, but extra js runs on my server and on the db.  It is messy.

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Mark Hahn <ma...@hahnca.com>]

>   "partial updates" can be easy to work-around using update handlers.

I'm doing that, but extra js runs on my server and on the db.  It is messy.

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>]

the "partial update" feature would have the same semantics as a
document updated mediated by an update handler anyway, though more
efficient (no need to call javascript when the transformation function
is defined).

B.

On 10 May 2012 08:24, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Compared to the other two, lack of "partial updates" can be easy to
> work-around using update handlers.  Still, it's a workaround.
>
> On 9 May 2012 16:33, Bob Dionne <di...@dionne-associates.com> wrote:
>
>> it's interesting, I"m not sure how large or broad a user sampling this is
>> but the top three requests seem to be:
>>
>> 1. Chained map/reduce
>>
>> 2. Partial doc updates
>>
>> 3. Native FTI
>>
>> I don't quite get #2 but #1 and #3 have been around a long time
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Alon Keren wrote:
>>
>> > I've decided that it would make sense if the wishlist focused not just on
>> > CouchDB proper, but also on the ecosystem of tools (and plugins?) around
>> it.
>> > After all, some desired features may appear faster outside of couch
>> proper
>> > (like full-text search in couchdb-lucene), and other stuff may never be
>> > exactly right to be included out of the box (like document versioning).
>> >
>> > Thoughts and feedback welcome,
>> >
>> >  Alon
>> >
>> > On 26 April 2012 20:58, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Following the excellent initiative by couch devs with the recent
>> >> feature-survey [1] [2], I figured it would be worth while to have a
>> >> permanent wish-list for just user-facing features; a place for users to
>> put
>> >> their own ideas and feature-requests, and to vote on others'.
>> >>
>> >> Such a wish-list serves two obvious purposes:
>> >> 1. helping users raise awareness for their needs. I don't find JIRA
>> >> accessible or visible enough for this purpose. This would result in:
>> >> 2. helping developers (and would-be developers) keep tabs on what
>> features
>> >> the community is really missing, and which it isn't
>> >>
>> >> I started a wish-list here: http://couchdbwishlist.userecho.com/. I
>> >> seeded it from Bob Newson's compilation of potential features [3], and I
>> >> really hope to see things added and voted on, and to get the ball
>> rolling.
>> >>
>> >> For those interested, some of the reasons I went with userecho:
>> >> - simple voting scheme (albeit not as informative as allourideas's)
>> >> - relatively rich text editor
>> >> - comments
>> >> - clean interface
>> >> - free (albeit as in beer)
>> >>
>> >> I would more than welcome any ideas or suggestions.
>> >>
>> >> Relax on,
>> >>
>> >>  Alon
>> >>  (http://alon.me)
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://www.allourideas.org/couchdb2012/results
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/201204.mbox/browser
>> >> [3] https://gist.github.com/2387973
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>]

the "partial update" feature would have the same semantics as a
document updated mediated by an update handler anyway, though more
efficient (no need to call javascript when the transformation function
is defined).

B.

On 10 May 2012 08:24, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Compared to the other two, lack of "partial updates" can be easy to
> work-around using update handlers.  Still, it's a workaround.
>
> On 9 May 2012 16:33, Bob Dionne <di...@dionne-associates.com> wrote:
>
>> it's interesting, I"m not sure how large or broad a user sampling this is
>> but the top three requests seem to be:
>>
>> 1. Chained map/reduce
>>
>> 2. Partial doc updates
>>
>> 3. Native FTI
>>
>> I don't quite get #2 but #1 and #3 have been around a long time
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Alon Keren wrote:
>>
>> > I've decided that it would make sense if the wishlist focused not just on
>> > CouchDB proper, but also on the ecosystem of tools (and plugins?) around
>> it.
>> > After all, some desired features may appear faster outside of couch
>> proper
>> > (like full-text search in couchdb-lucene), and other stuff may never be
>> > exactly right to be included out of the box (like document versioning).
>> >
>> > Thoughts and feedback welcome,
>> >
>> >  Alon
>> >
>> > On 26 April 2012 20:58, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Following the excellent initiative by couch devs with the recent
>> >> feature-survey [1] [2], I figured it would be worth while to have a
>> >> permanent wish-list for just user-facing features; a place for users to
>> put
>> >> their own ideas and feature-requests, and to vote on others'.
>> >>
>> >> Such a wish-list serves two obvious purposes:
>> >> 1. helping users raise awareness for their needs. I don't find JIRA
>> >> accessible or visible enough for this purpose. This would result in:
>> >> 2. helping developers (and would-be developers) keep tabs on what
>> features
>> >> the community is really missing, and which it isn't
>> >>
>> >> I started a wish-list here: http://couchdbwishlist.userecho.com/. I
>> >> seeded it from Bob Newson's compilation of potential features [3], and I
>> >> really hope to see things added and voted on, and to get the ball
>> rolling.
>> >>
>> >> For those interested, some of the reasons I went with userecho:
>> >> - simple voting scheme (albeit not as informative as allourideas's)
>> >> - relatively rich text editor
>> >> - comments
>> >> - clean interface
>> >> - free (albeit as in beer)
>> >>
>> >> I would more than welcome any ideas or suggestions.
>> >>
>> >> Relax on,
>> >>
>> >>  Alon
>> >>  (http://alon.me)
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://www.allourideas.org/couchdb2012/results
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/201204.mbox/browser
>> >> [3] https://gist.github.com/2387973
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com>]

Compared to the other two, lack of "partial updates" can be easy to
work-around using update handlers.  Still, it's a workaround.

On 9 May 2012 16:33, Bob Dionne <di...@dionne-associates.com> wrote:

> it's interesting, I"m not sure how large or broad a user sampling this is
> but the top three requests seem to be:
>
> 1. Chained map/reduce
>
> 2. Partial doc updates
>
> 3. Native FTI
>
> I don't quite get #2 but #1 and #3 have been around a long time
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Alon Keren wrote:
>
> > I've decided that it would make sense if the wishlist focused not just on
> > CouchDB proper, but also on the ecosystem of tools (and plugins?) around
> it.
> > After all, some desired features may appear faster outside of couch
> proper
> > (like full-text search in couchdb-lucene), and other stuff may never be
> > exactly right to be included out of the box (like document versioning).
> >
> > Thoughts and feedback welcome,
> >
> >  Alon
> >
> > On 26 April 2012 20:58, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> Following the excellent initiative by couch devs with the recent
> >> feature-survey [1] [2], I figured it would be worth while to have a
> >> permanent wish-list for just user-facing features; a place for users to
> put
> >> their own ideas and feature-requests, and to vote on others'.
> >>
> >> Such a wish-list serves two obvious purposes:
> >> 1. helping users raise awareness for their needs. I don't find JIRA
> >> accessible or visible enough for this purpose. This would result in:
> >> 2. helping developers (and would-be developers) keep tabs on what
> features
> >> the community is really missing, and which it isn't
> >>
> >> I started a wish-list here: http://couchdbwishlist.userecho.com/. I
> >> seeded it from Bob Newson's compilation of potential features [3], and I
> >> really hope to see things added and voted on, and to get the ball
> rolling.
> >>
> >> For those interested, some of the reasons I went with userecho:
> >> - simple voting scheme (albeit not as informative as allourideas's)
> >> - relatively rich text editor
> >> - comments
> >> - clean interface
> >> - free (albeit as in beer)
> >>
> >> I would more than welcome any ideas or suggestions.
> >>
> >> Relax on,
> >>
> >>  Alon
> >>  (http://alon.me)
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.allourideas.org/couchdb2012/results
> >> [2]
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/201204.mbox/browser
> >> [3] https://gist.github.com/2387973
> >>
> >>
>
>

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Mark Hahn <ma...@hahnca.com>]

>  2. Partial doc updates

> I don't quite get #2

Simple.  Just do an `extend` on a doc instead of replacing it.

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Mark Hahn <ma...@hahnca.com>]

>  2. Partial doc updates

> I don't quite get #2

Simple.  Just do an `extend` on a doc instead of replacing it.

Re: Users' Wish-list

[Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com>]

Compared to the other two, lack of "partial updates" can be easy to
work-around using update handlers.  Still, it's a workaround.

On 9 May 2012 16:33, Bob Dionne <di...@dionne-associates.com> wrote:

> it's interesting, I"m not sure how large or broad a user sampling this is
> but the top three requests seem to be:
>
> 1. Chained map/reduce
>
> 2. Partial doc updates
>
> 3. Native FTI
>
> I don't quite get #2 but #1 and #3 have been around a long time
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Alon Keren wrote:
>
> > I've decided that it would make sense if the wishlist focused not just on
> > CouchDB proper, but also on the ecosystem of tools (and plugins?) around
> it.
> > After all, some desired features may appear faster outside of couch
> proper
> > (like full-text search in couchdb-lucene), and other stuff may never be
> > exactly right to be included out of the box (like document versioning).
> >
> > Thoughts and feedback welcome,
> >
> >  Alon
> >
> > On 26 April 2012 20:58, Alon Keren <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> Following the excellent initiative by couch devs with the recent
> >> feature-survey [1] [2], I figured it would be worth while to have a
> >> permanent wish-list for just user-facing features; a place for users to
> put
> >> their own ideas and feature-requests, and to vote on others'.
> >>
> >> Such a wish-list serves two obvious purposes:
> >> 1. helping users raise awareness for their needs. I don't find JIRA
> >> accessible or visible enough for this purpose. This would result in:
> >> 2. helping developers (and would-be developers) keep tabs on what
> features
> >> the community is really missing, and which it isn't
> >>
> >> I started a wish-list here: http://couchdbwishlist.userecho.com/. I
> >> seeded it from Bob Newson's compilation of potential features [3], and I
> >> really hope to see things added and voted on, and to get the ball
> rolling.
> >>
> >> For those interested, some of the reasons I went with userecho:
> >> - simple voting scheme (albeit not as informative as allourideas's)
> >> - relatively rich text editor
> >> - comments
> >> - clean interface
> >> - free (albeit as in beer)
> >>
> >> I would more than welcome any ideas or suggestions.
> >>
> >> Relax on,
> >>
> >>  Alon
> >>  (http://alon.me)
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.allourideas.org/couchdb2012/results
> >> [2]
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/201204.mbox/browser
> >> [3] https://gist.github.com/2387973
> >>
> >>
>
>