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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> on 2005/10/28 21:00:36 UTC
Weekly conference call - thoughts
I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly conference
call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all but we could
all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over issues rather than
rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post them to the dev
list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues are. I was
thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to cover those
that might be interested from Europe).
Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
Cheers,
Matt
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Bill Stoddard <bi...@wstoddard.com>.
Jeff Genender wrote:
> I have to say I am opposed as well. IMHO a telecon is not fair to those
> who live in places where the time is not convenient. There are also
> folks who are contributors who may not be able to engage in a such a
> call because their jobs do not allow them to take part (rules using
> phones, job duties, etc).
>
> Although this may be an additional way to communicate with the
> community, many folks may not have the opportunity to participate, and I
> am not sure that it is community oriented.
Jeff, your right, conference calls are not community oriented, and that's the main problem, imho. Apache !=
Eclipse and you'll find most folks in the Apache community would agree.
ApacheCon is coming up in december; that's a great opportunity to host a f2f hack-a-thon. You'll get a little
bit done but build some very good working relationships going forward. Once you meet someone face to face,
it's a bit more difficult to forget there's a real person behind the keyboard and that tends to make on-list
interactions a bit more civil.
> With our lists, there is no
> barrier to engaging and contribution.
>
> Just my .02.
+1
>
> Jeff
Bill
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Jeff Genender <jg...@savoirtech.com>.
I have to say I am opposed as well. IMHO a telecon is not fair to those
who live in places where the time is not convenient. There are also
folks who are contributors who may not be able to engage in a such a
call because their jobs do not allow them to take part (rules using
phones, job duties, etc).
Although this may be an additional way to communicate with the
community, many folks may not have the opportunity to participate, and I
am not sure that it is community oriented. With our lists, there is no
barrier to engaging and contribution.
Just my .02.
Jeff
Sachin Patel wrote:
> I'm a little surprised that this got shutdown so quickly. :) Whats the
> harm in attempting one or two calls to see how they go? Now I'm not a
> huge fan of conference calls either, but it very well may turn out to be
> extremely effective. Just because it wasn't a positive experience in
> the past doesn't mean that it won't be effective for this community :).
>
> The Eclipse Web Tools project has weekly telecons open to anyone in the
> community, and after discussing with a few of their attendees they
> provided me with positive feedback. Their primary use of it is to open
> and follow up with action items for people and it was much easier to do
> this on a call rather then a dev list. The minutes of the meeting are
> then posted on the dev list.
>
> I personally think the more ways to communicate with the community, the
> better. So +1 from me for atleast trying it out once.
>
> Thats my take :)
>
> Sachin
>
> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> Rodent of Unusual Size wrote, On 10/29/2005 1:57 PM:
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>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
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>>>> I love an e-mail that elicites opinions :)
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an
>>>> alternative
>>>> for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong
>>>> disdain so
>>>> I'll withdraw the proposal.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
>>> expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
>>> excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
>>> think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
>>> idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
>>> but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
>>> feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
>> You are not the only one who is strongly opposed. I also am opposed
>> to this. (sorry about the tardy reply, we're in the process of moving)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>.
I'm a little surprised that this got shutdown so quickly. :) Whats the
harm in attempting one or two calls to see how they go? Now I'm not a
huge fan of conference calls either, but it very well may turn out to be
extremely effective. Just because it wasn't a positive experience in
the past doesn't mean that it won't be effective for this community :).
The Eclipse Web Tools project has weekly telecons open to anyone in the
community, and after discussing with a few of their attendees they
provided me with positive feedback. Their primary use of it is to open
and follow up with action items for people and it was much easier to do
this on a call rather then a dev list. The minutes of the meeting are
then posted on the dev list.
I personally think the more ways to communicate with the community, the
better. So +1 from me for atleast trying it out once.
Thats my take :)
Sachin
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Rodent of Unusual Size wrote, On 10/29/2005 1:57 PM:
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>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>
>>> I love an e-mail that elicites opinions :)
>>>
>>> Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative
>>> for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so
>>> I'll withdraw the proposal.
>>>
>>
>> I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
>> expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
>> excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
>> think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
>> idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
>> but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
>> feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
> You are not the only one who is strongly opposed. I also am opposed to
> this. (sorry about the tardy reply, we're in the process of moving)
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote, On 10/29/2005 1:57 PM:
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>Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
>
>>I love an e-mail that elicites opinions :)
>>
>>Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative
>>for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so
>>I'll withdraw the proposal.
>>
>>
>
>I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
>expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
>excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
>think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
>idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
>but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
>feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
>
You are not the only one who is strongly opposed. I also am opposed to
this. (sorry about the tardy reply, we're in the process of moving)
Regards,
Alan
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Oct 29, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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>>
>> I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
>> expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
>> excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
>> think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
>> idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
>> but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
>> feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
>>
>
> Argh. It's been pointed out to me that I'm coming
> across as a +5 blanket of wetness. Please accept
> my apologies. It's something I feel strongly about,
> so I'm expressing myself strongly -- but I'm just one person.
>
I don't want to sound patronizing, but that's a really impressive
response.
I've always found it really hard to separate information into what I
call the three "P"s of Apache: Policy, Precedent, Preference.
Answers like this really help. Plus, I think it's healthy to
encourage a certain amount of experimentation when trying to feel
your way around the community. Just cause something didn't work for
someone else, doesn't mean it won't work for anyone. If it doesn't,
there is a certain value to learning things first-hand.
I know you're not advocating, but I appreciate the rope :)
-David
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>
> I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
> expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
> excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
> think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
> idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
> but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
> feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
Argh. It's been pointed out to me that I'm coming
across as a +5 blanket of wetness. Please accept
my apologies. It's something I feel strongly about,
so I'm expressing myself strongly -- but I'm just one person.
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I love an e-mail that elicites opinions :)
>
> Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative
> for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so
> I'll withdraw the proposal.
I think I was the only one strongly opposed, and I was
expressing my opinion based on experience. Anything that
excludes people as a matter of principle isn't good. I
think making it an institutional thing is a really bad
idea. If everyone else thinks it's grand, go ahead --
but review occasionally to make sure everyone still
feels that way as new people join the list. :-)
Here's a counter-proposal that I think alleviates those
concerns, and can still garner some of the benefits.
Don't make it something based on a particular time;
focus calls instead on specific topics at need. If there's
some particular area that several people want to bang
heads on in realtime, propose doing it and see who's
interested and what time works best for them. That gives
everyone a chance to participate in the decision about
how important the call is and when it should be.
And give several days' notice so people can catch up on the
email, and someone needs to report back to the list.
How does that sound? Or maybe something in between?
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Fair enough...I'm travelling this week and will be spotty on my own e-mail.
I'll let it bake and do some research in the interim.
I understand the issue of excluding folks and the idea of the call was
definitely no intended to do that. The nice thing is we have people all over
the world doing development and that is one huge drawback of conference calls.
Let's see what bakes :)
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative
>>for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so
>>I'll withdraw the proposal.
>
> Something I meant to mention earlier but forgot: don't be
> hasty! The proposal's only been on the list for 24 hours;
> give it a couple of days. The canonical interval is three
> days to let people catch up, come home, or whatever.
> - --
> #ken P-)}
>
> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
>
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Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
> Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative
> for folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so
> I'll withdraw the proposal.
Something I meant to mention earlier but forgot: don't be
hasty! The proposal's only been on the list for 24 hours;
give it a couple of days. The canonical interval is three
days to let people catch up, come home, or whatever.
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
I love an e-mail that elicites opinions :)
Ok, I give. I personally hate typing and was looking for an alternative for
folks. Sounds like there is moderate interest and strong disdain so I'll
withdraw the proposal.
Perhaps this proposal is a bit like the fireswamp.
- Matt
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> I worry about the same problem that we have with IRC - that while it's
> a very convenient way to communicate, not everyone can make it and
> participate in the discussion, and also despite the best of intentions,
> summaries result in not everything discussed making it to the
> "institutional memory" that is the dev@ list. It's true that e- mail is
> slow, but it does allow the time-shifting and "inclusivity", to coin a
> word...
>
> Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it's just my $0.02....
>
> geir
>
> On Oct 28, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
>> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly
>> conference call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory
>> at all but we could all put it on our calendars and use it as a time
>> to talk over issues rather than rely totally on e- mail. We'd get
>> someone to take notes and post them to the dev list and solicit
>> agenda items from there as well.
>>
>> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues are. I
>> was thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to
>> cover those that might be interested from Europe).
>>
>> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
I worry about the same problem that we have with IRC - that while
it's a very convenient way to communicate, not everyone can make it
and participate in the discussion, and also despite the best of
intentions, summaries result in not everything discussed making it to
the "institutional memory" that is the dev@ list. It's true that e-
mail is slow, but it does allow the time-shifting and "inclusivity",
to coin a word...
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it's just my $0.02....
geir
On Oct 28, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly
> conference call for those on the dev list. It would not be
> mandatory at all but we could all put it on our calendars and use
> it as a time to talk over issues rather than rely totally on e-
> mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post them to the dev list
> and solicit agenda items from there as well.
>
> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues are.
> I was thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable
> to cover those that might be interested from Europe).
>
> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
>> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly
>> conference call for those on the dev list. It would not be
>> mandatory at
>> all but we could all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to
>> talk over issues rather than rely totally on e-mail. We'd get
>> someone
>> to take notes and post them to the dev list and solicit agenda items
>> from there as well.
>>
>
> A very strong -1. This discriminates against and disenfranchises
> those who can't make it for whatever reason, not least those in
> timezones far removed from the majority. And it leaves no trace
> other than hearsay.
>
> IRC is frowned upon as a formal discussion mechanism for the
> same reason, although it's easier to log. Nevertheless,
> discussions about development are supposed to happen in the
> wide-open, where other developers *and non-developers* can
> see them now and in the future. I.e., email.
>
> This has come up repeatedly in the last several years, and
> the conclusion has always been the same: the convenience
> of the few never dominates the visibility to the many.
>
> There are exceptional circumstances, such as the ApacheCon
> hackathons, but they a infrequent and the attendees are
> typically expected to recap any proposals in front of the
> mailing list before anything happens.
>
> As an occasional way to get through a lot quickly it's
> acceptable; as an institutionalised medium, -1.
Seems fair, IMHO. Not a real big fan of being on con-calls any kind,
so I'm biased....
If we had two or three (with minutes posted to dev@) in the weeks
leading up to the big 1.0 we want to get out by ApacheCon and didn't
use that crutch again for a long while, certainly not as a regular
release practice, would that kind of fit the pragmatic profile?
If not, I'm happy to let it drop.
-David
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly
> conference call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at
> all but we could all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to
> talk over issues rather than rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone
> to take notes and post them to the dev list and solicit agenda items
> from there as well.
A very strong -1. This discriminates against and disenfranchises
those who can't make it for whatever reason, not least those in
timezones far removed from the majority. And it leaves no trace
other than hearsay.
IRC is frowned upon as a formal discussion mechanism for the
same reason, although it's easier to log. Nevertheless,
discussions about development are supposed to happen in the
wide-open, where other developers *and non-developers* can
see them now and in the future. I.e., email.
This has come up repeatedly in the last several years, and
the conclusion has always been the same: the convenience
of the few never dominates the visibility to the many.
There are exceptional circumstances, such as the ApacheCon
hackathons, but they a infrequent and the attendees are
typically expected to recap any proposals in front of the
mailing list before anything happens.
As an occasional way to get through a lot quickly it's
acceptable; as an institutionalised medium, -1.
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
Wonder what it would take archive those calls if need be.
Cheers
Prasad
On 10/28/05, Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well both SIP and VOIP can call to standard numbers.
> Wouldn't know of a service though, sorry.
>
> I Have to agree with some opinions that calls might not be the best of
> mediums.
> Emails I can read any time of the day, to participate in a conference
> call I'd need to be home.
> I'm sure many others here have that problem.
> It might work for 1 on 1 discussions though (in which case Google talk
> or Skype is great)
>
> Greetings,
>
> Barry
>
> On 10/28/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> > Skype or SIP would be very cool. Is there a conference service that
> > can be access directly with both Skype/SIP and plain old phone lines?
> >
> > -dain
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Barry van Someren wrote:
> >
> > > Would this be over normal phone or some kind of VOIP conference
> > > (Skype/SIP)?
> > > Sounds good, I'd just listen (and participate if I happen to be home)
> > >
> > > On 10/28/05, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sounds good to me
> > >>
> > >> Aaron
> > >>
> > >> On 10/28/05, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular
> > >>> weekly conference
> > >>> call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all
> > >>> but we could
> > >>> all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over
> > >>> issues rather than
> > >>> rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post
> > >>> them to the dev
> > >>> list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues
> > >>> are. I was
> > >>> thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to
> > >>> cover those
> > >>> that might be interested from Europe).
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Matt
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com>.
Well both SIP and VOIP can call to standard numbers.
Wouldn't know of a service though, sorry.
I Have to agree with some opinions that calls might not be the best of mediums.
Emails I can read any time of the day, to participate in a conference
call I'd need to be home.
I'm sure many others here have that problem.
It might work for 1 on 1 discussions though (in which case Google talk
or Skype is great)
Greetings,
Barry
On 10/28/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> Skype or SIP would be very cool. Is there a conference service that
> can be access directly with both Skype/SIP and plain old phone lines?
>
> -dain
>
> On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Barry van Someren wrote:
>
> > Would this be over normal phone or some kind of VOIP conference
> > (Skype/SIP)?
> > Sounds good, I'd just listen (and participate if I happen to be home)
> >
> > On 10/28/05, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds good to me
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >>
> >> On 10/28/05, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular
> >>> weekly conference
> >>> call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all
> >>> but we could
> >>> all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over
> >>> issues rather than
> >>> rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post
> >>> them to the dev
> >>> list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
> >>>
> >>> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues
> >>> are. I was
> >>> thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to
> >>> cover those
> >>> that might be interested from Europe).
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Matt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Skype or SIP would be very cool. Is there a conference service that
can be access directly with both Skype/SIP and plain old phone lines?
-dain
On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Barry van Someren wrote:
> Would this be over normal phone or some kind of VOIP conference
> (Skype/SIP)?
> Sounds good, I'd just listen (and participate if I happen to be home)
>
> On 10/28/05, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good to me
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On 10/28/05, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular
>>> weekly conference
>>> call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all
>>> but we could
>>> all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over
>>> issues rather than
>>> rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post
>>> them to the dev
>>> list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
>>>
>>> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues
>>> are. I was
>>> thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to
>>> cover those
>>> that might be interested from Europe).
>>>
>>> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Barry van Someren <go...@gmail.com>.
Would this be over normal phone or some kind of VOIP conference (Skype/SIP)?
Sounds good, I'd just listen (and participate if I happen to be home)
On 10/28/05, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> Sounds good to me
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/28/05, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> > I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly conference
> > call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all but we could
> > all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over issues rather than
> > rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post them to the dev
> > list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
> >
> > I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues are. I was
> > thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to cover those
> > that might be interested from Europe).
> >
> > Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
>
Re: Weekly conference call - thoughts
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Sounds good to me
Aaron
On 10/28/05, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to have a regular weekly conference
> call for those on the dev list. It would not be mandatory at all but we could
> all put it on our calendars and use it as a time to talk over issues rather than
> rely totally on e-mail. We'd get someone to take notes and post them to the dev
> list and solicit agenda items from there as well.
>
> I'll look into how we could do this and what the cost issues are. I was
> thinking something like Thursdays at noon EST (most favorable to cover those
> that might be interested from Europe).
>
> Thoughts on the idea, frequency, etc.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
>