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Posted to java-dev@axis.apache.org by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com> on 2005/03/22 07:49:24 UTC
[Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Hi all,
Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
ppt + notes.
thoughts ?
--
Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> Hi there Shawn,
> Well, there were no remote participants last time. I don't think we
> can do a phone conference (it will probably be too expensive) but we
> may be able to arrange a yahoo/MSN voice conference. You can anyway
> use wiki and IRC but they will probably be "off-line" (meaning not
> real time) for the conference.
> Yes I will publish the summit material ASAP :)
Apart from its win32 only nature (and as of last week, it will only ever
be win32), groove is good for collaborative stuff this way; you can do
shared presentations with handoff of speaker, notes in the corner,
person-to-person messaging. Voice sucks though, you need to use
something better like the phone, and in the absence of skype conf
calling, not cheap.
best to focus on good in-room working, perhaps with publishing of
presentations (in .PDF or .SXW format) and IRC logs. That way those of
us in different timezones can catch up when we get a chance.
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>.
Hi there Shawn,
Well, there were no remote participants last time. I don't think we
can do a phone conference (it will probably be too expensive) but we
may be able to arrange a yahoo/MSN voice conference. You can anyway
use wiki and IRC but they will probably be "off-line" (meaning not
real time) for the conference.
Yes I will publish the summit material ASAP :)
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:00:52 -0500, Shawn Dahlen
<sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ajith -
>
> Quick question? Did people participate remotely during the last
> conference? Unfortunately, I will not be able to fly out, but I would
> like to contribute to the discussions, especially in regards to WSA
> and WS messaging. Any suggestions on the best means of communication?
> IRC, Wiki, phone conference? If you could publish the presentations
> beforehand that would be great as well (if possible of course).
>
> - Shawn
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:49:24 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu
> <aj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
> > of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
> > people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
> > General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
> > format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
> > being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
> > this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
> > But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
> > presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
> > presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
> > audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
> > waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
> > So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
> > minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
> > presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
> > and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
> > the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
> > presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
> > ppt + notes.
> >
> > thoughts ?
> >
> > --
> > Ajith Ranabahu
> >
>
--
Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Shawn Dahlen <sh...@gmail.com>.
Ajith -
Quick question? Did people participate remotely during the last
conference? Unfortunately, I will not be able to fly out, but I would
like to contribute to the discussions, especially in regards to WSA
and WS messaging. Any suggestions on the best means of communication?
IRC, Wiki, phone conference? If you could publish the presentations
beforehand that would be great as well (if possible of course).
- Shawn
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:49:24 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu
<aj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
> of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
> people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
> General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
> format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
> being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
> this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
> But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
> presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
> presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
> audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
> waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
> So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
> minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
> presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
> and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
> the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
> presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
> ppt + notes.
>
> thoughts ?
>
> --
> Ajith Ranabahu
>
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Aleksander Slominski <as...@cs.indiana.edu>.
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>We could record the audio but if last time was an indication I
>doubt anyone outside the room will be able to follow it. Let's
>definitely do IRC and assign scribes to take notes on IRC. Also,
>we can use skype for audio? We could do a phone call but it
>will be expensive to do it for the whole time, however Shawn
>if there's a couple of hours where you'd really like to do join
>we could certainly do it for that slot.
>
>I suggest we try IRC + skype and then switch to phone if needed.
>
>
sounds (!) good to me. as a backup i would also have MSN and Yahoo
though i am not usre how many audio participantds they support.
alek
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Aleksander Slominski" <as...@cs.indiana.edu>
>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
>
>
>
>
>>Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
>>>of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
>>>people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
>>>General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
>>>format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
>>>being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
>>>this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
>>>But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
>>>presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
>>>presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
>>>audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
>>>waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
>>>So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
>>>minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
>>>presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
>>>and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
>>>the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
>>>presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
>>>ppt + notes.
>>>
>>>thoughts ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>having ppt,notes and caera shots of white boards is an absolute minimum
>>
>>having recording of audio for presentation is good.
>>
>>i hope also there is going to be available IRC for questions (and Wiki
>>used to capture answers) and Skype or similiar access to listen-in.
>>
>>alek
>>
>>--
>>The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
>>
>>
>>
>>
--
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
We could record the audio but if last time was an indication I
doubt anyone outside the room will be able to follow it. Let's
definitely do IRC and assign scribes to take notes on IRC. Also,
we can use skype for audio? We could do a phone call but it
will be expensive to do it for the whole time, however Shawn
if there's a couple of hours where you'd really like to do join
we could certainly do it for that slot.
I suggest we try IRC + skype and then switch to phone if needed.
Sanjiva.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aleksander Slominski" <as...@cs.indiana.edu>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
> Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
> >of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
> >people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
> >General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
> >format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
> >being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
> >this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
> >But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
> >presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
> >presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
> >audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
> >waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
> >So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
> >minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
> >presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
> >and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
> >the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
> >presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
> >ppt + notes.
> >
> >thoughts ?
> >
> >
> having ppt,notes and caera shots of white boards is an absolute minimum
>
> having recording of audio for presentation is good.
>
> i hope also there is going to be available IRC for questions (and Wiki
> used to capture answers) and Skype or similiar access to listen-in.
>
> alek
>
> --
> The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
>
>
Re: [Axis2]Plans for the Axsi2 summit
Posted by Aleksander Slominski <as...@cs.indiana.edu>.
Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>Hi all,
>Since there are requests for presentations and audio/video recordings
>of the sessions we need to think of a better way to cater for the
>people who will be absent in the summit (other than the wiki).
>General discussions are not appropriate to be recorded , even in audio
>format, since the people will feel restricted once they know it's
>being recorded.( we did not record the sessions last time due to
>this!) So recording the complete sessions is out.
>But we can actually record (either in audio or video) the
>presentations. I am now planning a complete Axis2 overview
>presentation which will include notes as well. it is possible have the
>audio (or video if people are so keen in looking at me or Srinath
>waving our hands :)) of this. (I mean I have no objections :)).
>So here is my suggestion. We can have a short (lets say 10 to 15
>minutes maximum) presentation before we start every session. This
>presentation will be a general introduction about the topic to discuss
>and will include specific problem areas. A person who is well aware of
>the particular topic can do the presentation. We can record these
>presentations (if there are no objections) and publish along with the
>ppt + notes.
>
>thoughts ?
>
>
having ppt,notes and caera shots of white boards is an absolute minimum
having recording of audio for presentation is good.
i hope also there is going to be available IRC for questions (and Wiki
used to capture answers) and Skype or similiar access to listen-in.
alek
--
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay