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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Clint Modien <cm...@gmail.com> on 2013/11/12 09:38:35 UTC
Re: Swiz Framework Donation
It's also possible (probable?) that he isn't following this thread… has
anyone reached out to him via other channels?
Alex… does apache require the inked copies on file or are printed digital
copies ok?
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> If it were up to me (and it isn't) I wouldn't add that section. The
> Software Grant process is probably not going to be used very often
> compared to the patch submission process and I'd rather not confuse folks
> about whether a patch is a donation. It is, but doesn't require as
> elaborate a process.
>
> And please, let's not be so pushy. Chris is offering a generous donation
> while he is busy doing other things, so I think we have to be patient.
> And even after the software grant is recorded, the code has to undergo IP
> clearance by a PMC member. Quite frankly, I'm still doing IP clearance on
> BlazeDS and don't have the cycles to work on another donation.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 9/15/13 6:53 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >@Chris Scott ... Could you collect these 5 signatures, already? If not,
> >what makes it so hard, or taking so long, to donate this code? Probably,
> >the donation process is to complicated and needs to be simplified. Does
> >anyone know, which documents needs to be signed for this donation process?
> >Are these documents linked at our Apache Flex website? If not, could we
> >please link these documents on our "Get Involved" website [1] at Apache
> >Flex? Maybe a new section called "Donating Code"?
> >
> >[1] http://flex.apache.org/community-getinvolved.html
> >
> >
> >--
> >Sebastian (PPMC)
> >Interaction Designer
> >
> >Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> >http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Nothing
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/9/15 Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> > Any news?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> >> > Interaction Designer
> >> >
> >> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> >>code:
> >> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hey Chris, the document that needs to be signed is the software
> >>grant.
> >> > > The link is in the thread. Here it is again.
> >> > >
> >> > > > > > The software grant is here:
> >> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >> > >
> >> > > Actually, this is the third time I've posted this link for you. If
> >>you
> >> > > ask again, you'll have to take me with you next time you get a gig
> >>in
> >> > > Hawaii ;-)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -Alex
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/25/13 1:12 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@codeoscopic.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >Thanks Chris,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >could someone (Alex, Michael,..?) that have done this work before
> >> point
> >> > us
> >> > > >to the document that Chris refer. I think you only need some
> >>wording
> >> > that
> >> > > >states that people signing the document agree to donate code
> >>ownership
> >> > to
> >> > > >Apache. I think with a paragraph that express the commitment to
> >>make
> >> > it
> >> > > >happen will be sufficient, but as Alex or others could hopefuly
> >>point
> >> us
> >> > > >if
> >> > > >there's something more...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Carlos
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >2013/7/25 Chris Scott <ch...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Carlos,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I am in Hawaii working on a client deployment this week. I sent
> >>the
> >> > > >>email
> >> > > >> around to get support for everyone to sign ownership to apache
> >>and
> >> > > >>everyone
> >> > > >> is on board. When I get back I will get the proper document sent
> >> > around
> >> > > >> (although I honestly am not sure exactly which document we need
> >>to
> >> > > >>sign, so
> >> > > >> if you have any interest in tracking that down, please do) and
> >> return
> >> > > >>it.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks for patience,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Chris
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > >> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Hi Chris,
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > how is going the internal mail to the rest of swiz
> >>contributors?
> >> > There
> >> > > >> are
> >> > > >> > consensus to donate ownerhip to Apache Flex
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Thanks for any update regarding this
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Carlos
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > 2013/7/5 Chris Scott <ch...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > Yes UM has no ownership, I stared the project prior to
> >>working
> >> > with
> >> > > >> them,
> >> > > >> > > and my ownership is written into my contract
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On 7/5/13 11:07 AM, "chris.scott.one@gmail.com"
> >> > > >> > > > <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >> OK, so if we are putting things in terms of 'substantial
> >> > > >> > contributors',
> >> > > >> > > we
> >> > > >> > > >> are talking about 5 people MAX. Can the 5 of us simply
> >>cosign
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > > software
> >> > > >> > > >> grant, and can you point me to the document we need to
> >>sign.
> >> I
> >> > > >>can
> >> > > >> > pass
> >> > > >> > > it
> >> > > >> > > >> around to everybody involved since it is primarily
> >>Universal
> >> > > >>Mind.
> >> > > >> > Can I
> >> > > >> > > >> just have the rest of the people send messages here that
> >>they
> >> > > >> approve?
> >> > > >> > > > OK, let's try that. There is a chance that someone from
> >> Apache
> >> > > >>may
> >> > > >> > later
> >> > > >> > > > say that we need a better paper trail, but hopefully not.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > The software grant is here:
> >> > > >> > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > One important thing: Are you sure Universal Mind does not
> >> claim
> >> > > >> > > ownership?
> >> > > >> > > > As an Adobe employee I would not be able to create my own
> >> > > >>framework
> >> > > >> on
> >> > > >> > > > the side without more legal paperwork and if I did it
> >>while at
> >> > > >>Adobe
> >> > > >> > they
> >> > > >> > > > would own it.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > > >> As far as Swiz Framework name, Apache will want to
> >>register
> >> it
> >> > > >>then,
> >> > > >> > > since
> >> > > >> > > >> no one else ever did. Does that make sense?
> >> > > >> > > > Yup, and Apache may not bother to register.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > -Alex
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > --
> >> > > >> > Carlos Rovira
> >> > > >> > Director de Tecnología
> >> > > >> > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> >> > > >> > F: +34 912 94 80 80
> >> > > >> > http://www.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > >> > http://www.directwriter.es
> >> > > >> > http://www.avant2.es
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >--
> >> > > >Carlos Rovira
> >> > > >Director de Tecnología
> >> > > >M: +34 607 22 60 05
> >> > > >F: +34 912 94 80 80
> >> > > >http://www.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > >http://www.directwriter.es
> >> > > >http://www.avant2.es
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> Director de Tecnología
> >> M: +34 607 22 60 05
> >> F: +34 912 94 80 80
> >> http://www.codeoscopic.com
> >> http://www.directwriter.es
> >> http://www.avant2.es
> >>
>
>
Re: Swiz Framework Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Adobe sends PDFs to Apache of the manually signed grant form. Saves trees
and all that. ;-)
On 11/12/13 12:38 AM, "Clint Modien" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It's also possible (probable?) that he isn't following this threadŠ has
>anyone reached out to him via other channels?
>
>AlexŠ does apache require the inked copies on file or are printed digital
>copies ok?
>
>Clint Modien
>548 Market St #27385
>San Francisco CA 94104
>c. 408.489.0750
>f. 1.866.253.9401
>e. cmodien@gmail.com
>aim: cmodien
>yim: cmodien
>
>
>On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> If it were up to me (and it isn't) I wouldn't add that section. The
>> Software Grant process is probably not going to be used very often
>> compared to the patch submission process and I'd rather not confuse
>>folks
>> about whether a patch is a donation. It is, but doesn't require as
>> elaborate a process.
>>
>> And please, let's not be so pushy. Chris is offering a generous
>>donation
>> while he is busy doing other things, so I think we have to be patient.
>> And even after the software grant is recorded, the code has to undergo
>>IP
>> clearance by a PMC member. Quite frankly, I'm still doing IP clearance
>>on
>> BlazeDS and don't have the cycles to work on another donation.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/15/13 6:53 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >@Chris Scott ... Could you collect these 5 signatures, already? If not,
>> >what makes it so hard, or taking so long, to donate this code?
>>Probably,
>> >the donation process is to complicated and needs to be simplified. Does
>> >anyone know, which documents needs to be signed for this donation
>>process?
>> >Are these documents linked at our Apache Flex website? If not, could we
>> >please link these documents on our "Get Involved" website [1] at Apache
>> >Flex? Maybe a new section called "Donating Code"?
>> >
>> >[1] http://flex.apache.org/community-getinvolved.html
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Sebastian (PPMC)
>> >Interaction Designer
>> >
>> >Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
>>code:
>> >http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> >carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nothing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/9/15 Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> > Any news?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Sebastian (PPMC)
>> >> > Interaction Designer
>> >> >
>> >> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
>> >>code:
>> >> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hey Chris, the document that needs to be signed is the software
>> >>grant.
>> >> > > The link is in the thread. Here it is again.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > > > The software grant is here:
>> >> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Actually, this is the third time I've posted this link for you.
>>If
>> >>you
>> >> > > ask again, you'll have to take me with you next time you get a
>>gig
>> >>in
>> >> > > Hawaii ;-)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -Alex
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/25/13 1:12 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
>><ca...@codeoscopic.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >Thanks Chris,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >could someone (Alex, Michael,..?) that have done this work
>>before
>> >> point
>> >> > us
>> >> > > >to the document that Chris refer. I think you only need some
>> >>wording
>> >> > that
>> >> > > >states that people signing the document agree to donate code
>> >>ownership
>> >> > to
>> >> > > >Apache. I think with a paragraph that express the commitment
>>to
>> >>make
>> >> > it
>> >> > > >happen will be sufficient, but as Alex or others could hopefuly
>> >>point
>> >> us
>> >> > > >if
>> >> > > >there's something more...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Thanks
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Carlos
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >2013/7/25 Chris Scott <ch...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Hi Carlos,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I am in Hawaii working on a client deployment this week. I
>>sent
>> >>the
>> >> > > >>email
>> >> > > >> around to get support for everyone to sign ownership to apache
>> >>and
>> >> > > >>everyone
>> >> > > >> is on board. When I get back I will get the proper document
>>sent
>> >> > around
>> >> > > >> (although I honestly am not sure exactly which document we
>>need
>> >>to
>> >> > > >>sign, so
>> >> > > >> if you have any interest in tracking that down, please do) and
>> >> return
>> >> > > >>it.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Thanks for patience,
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Chris
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> >> > > >> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > Hi Chris,
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > how is going the internal mail to the rest of swiz
>> >>contributors?
>> >> > There
>> >> > > >> are
>> >> > > >> > consensus to donate ownerhip to Apache Flex
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Thanks for any update regarding this
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Carlos
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > 2013/7/5 Chris Scott <ch...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > > Yes UM has no ownership, I stared the project prior to
>> >>working
>> >> > with
>> >> > > >> them,
>> >> > > >> > > and my ownership is written into my contract
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > On 7/5/13 11:07 AM, "chris.scott.one@gmail.com"
>> >> > > >> > > > <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >> OK, so if we are putting things in terms of
>>'substantial
>> >> > > >> > contributors',
>> >> > > >> > > we
>> >> > > >> > > >> are talking about 5 people MAX. Can the 5 of us simply
>> >>cosign
>> >> > the
>> >> > > >> > > software
>> >> > > >> > > >> grant, and can you point me to the document we need to
>> >>sign.
>> >> I
>> >> > > >>can
>> >> > > >> > pass
>> >> > > >> > > it
>> >> > > >> > > >> around to everybody involved since it is primarily
>> >>Universal
>> >> > > >>Mind.
>> >> > > >> > Can I
>> >> > > >> > > >> just have the rest of the people send messages here
>>that
>> >>they
>> >> > > >> approve?
>> >> > > >> > > > OK, let's try that. There is a chance that someone from
>> >> Apache
>> >> > > >>may
>> >> > > >> > later
>> >> > > >> > > > say that we need a better paper trail, but hopefully
>>not.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > The software grant is here:
>> >> > > >> > > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > One important thing: Are you sure Universal Mind does
>>not
>> >> claim
>> >> > > >> > > ownership?
>> >> > > >> > > > As an Adobe employee I would not be able to create my
>>own
>> >> > > >>framework
>> >> > > >> on
>> >> > > >> > > > the side without more legal paperwork and if I did it
>> >>while at
>> >> > > >>Adobe
>> >> > > >> > they
>> >> > > >> > > > would own it.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> > > >> As far as Swiz Framework name, Apache will want to
>> >>register
>> >> it
>> >> > > >>then,
>> >> > > >> > > since
>> >> > > >> > > >> no one else ever did. Does that make sense?
>> >> > > >> > > > Yup, and Apache may not bother to register.
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > > > Thanks,
>> >> > > >> > > > -Alex
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > --
>> >> > > >> > Carlos Rovira
>> >> > > >> > Director de Tecnología
>> >> > > >> > M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> > > >> > F: +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> > > >> > http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> > > >> > http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> > > >> > http://www.avant2.es
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >--
>> >> > > >Carlos Rovira
>> >> > > >Director de Tecnología
>> >> > > >M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> > > >F: +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> > > >http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> > > >http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> > > >http://www.avant2.es
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carlos Rovira
>> >> Director de Tecnología
>> >> M: +34 607 22 60 05
>> >> F: +34 912 94 80 80
>> >> http://www.codeoscopic.com
>> >> http://www.directwriter.es
>> >> http://www.avant2.es
>> >>
>>
>>