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NetCAT RCP

Hello,
i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9 as
kind of a test case.

First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I
couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the installation
directory.

Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java IDE
Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to be
active and enabled in Plugins.

Boris

-- 
Boris Heithecker

Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>.
Well there is better beans binding LGPL license so relatively safe, it's actually a fork of the original JSR with a couple of improvements and fixes 

https://www.openhub.net/p/BetterBeansBinding 

also available on maven central 

https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/it.tidalwave.betterbeansbinding 

No idea how well it's maintained thou. 

Regards, 
Luca. 


Da: "boris heithecker" <bo...@gmx.net> 
A: "Luca Mambretti" <lu...@bizeta.net> 
Cc: "Sven Reimers" <sv...@gmail.com>, "Hermien Pellissier" <mi...@gmail.com>, "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org> 
Inviato: Martedì, 27 marzo 2018 9:12:35 
Oggetto: Re: NetCAT RCP 

One obvious solution should be to create your own library wrapper module for "beansbinding-1.2.1.jar" (download, or take it from an 8.2 installation) - works for me. The non-obvious question is the licence. I couldn't find it anywhere. Does anybody know about the licensing provisions for this jar? [ http://beansbinding.dev.java.net/ | beansbinding.dev.java.net ] is down. 
With insecure licensing, I wouldn't want to ship it in an RCP app. 
Boris 

2018-03-27 8:46 GMT+02:00 Luca Mambretti < [ mailto:luca.mambretti@bizeta.net | luca.mambretti@bizeta.net ] > : 


Really a shame, I'd have to revert to old style binding in the few swing forms I still use. 

Maybe something to prompt the user to download the missing bits similar to what was done when another swing component I do not remember now was removed?? 

Also for platform applications how is binding done now?? 

----- Messaggio originale ----- 
Da: "Sven Reimers" < [ mailto:sven.reimers@gmail.com | sven.reimers@gmail.com ] > 
A: "Hermien Pellissier" < [ mailto:miena.moo@gmail.com | miena.moo@gmail.com ] > 
Cc: "boris heithecker" < [ mailto:boris.heithecker@gmx.net | boris.heithecker@gmx.net ] >, "netcat" < [ mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org | netcat@netbeans.apache.org ] > 
Inviato: Lunedì, 26 marzo 2018 21:48:46 
Oggetto: Re: NetCAT RCP 

Is it possible to do this as a 3rd party plugin? 

-Sven 

Hermien Pellissier < [ mailto:miena.moo@gmail.com | miena.moo@gmail.com ] > schrieb am Mo., 26. März 2018, 
18:44: 

> Hi, 
> 
> It was removed because the Beans Binding library is released under an 
> incompatible license. 
> 
> This is something that I will also really miss when it comes to Platform 
> Apps. So I wonder whether anybody out there has suggestions for 
> alternatives (using Swing)? 
> 
> ~ Hermien 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Boris Heithecker < 
> [ mailto:boris.heithecker@gmx.net | boris.heithecker@gmx.net ] 
> > wrote: 
> 
> > Hello, 
> > i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9 as 
> > kind of a test case. 
> > 
> > First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I 
> > couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the 
> installation 
> > directory. 
> > 
> > Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java IDE 
> > Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to be 
> > active and enabled in Plugins. 
> > 
> > Boris 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Boris Heithecker 
> > 
> 

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Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by Boris Heithecker <bo...@gmx.net>.
One obvious solution should be to create your own library wrapper module
for "beansbinding-1.2.1.jar" (download, or take it from an 8.2
installation) - works for me. The non-obvious question is the licence. I
couldn't find it anywhere. Does anybody know about the licensing provisions
for this jar? beansbinding.dev.java.net is down.
With insecure licensing, I wouldn't want to ship it in an RCP app.
Boris

2018-03-27 8:46 GMT+02:00 Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>:

> Really a shame, I'd have to revert to old style binding in the few swing
> forms I still use.
>
> Maybe something to prompt the user to download the missing bits similar to
> what was done when another swing component I do not remember now was
> removed??
>
> Also for platform applications how is binding done now??
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Sven Reimers" <sv...@gmail.com>
> A: "Hermien Pellissier" <mi...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "boris heithecker" <bo...@gmx.net>, "netcat" <
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org>
> Inviato: Lunedì, 26 marzo 2018 21:48:46
> Oggetto: Re: NetCAT RCP
>
> Is it possible to do this as a 3rd party plugin?
>
> -Sven
>
> Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 26. März 2018,
> 18:44:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It was removed because the Beans Binding library is released under an
> > incompatible license.
> >
> > This is something that I will also really miss when it comes to Platform
> > Apps. So I wonder whether anybody out there has suggestions for
> > alternatives (using Swing)?
> >
> > ~ Hermien
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Boris Heithecker <
> > boris.heithecker@gmx.net
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9
> as
> > > kind of a test case.
> > >
> > > First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9?
> I
> > > couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the
> > installation
> > > directory.
> > >
> > > Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java
> IDE
> > > Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to
> be
> > > active and enabled in Plugins.
> > >
> > > Boris
> > >
> > > --
> > > Boris Heithecker
> > >
> >
>
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Tel.: 0 42 05/ 31 58 34

Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>.
Really a shame, I'd have to revert to old style binding in the few swing forms I still use.

Maybe something to prompt the user to download the missing bits similar to what was done when another swing component I do not remember now was removed??

Also for platform applications how is binding done now??

----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "Sven Reimers" <sv...@gmail.com>
A: "Hermien Pellissier" <mi...@gmail.com>
Cc: "boris heithecker" <bo...@gmx.net>, "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Inviato: Lunedì, 26 marzo 2018 21:48:46
Oggetto: Re: NetCAT RCP

Is it possible to do this as a 3rd party plugin?

-Sven

Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 26. März 2018,
18:44:

> Hi,
>
> It was removed because the Beans Binding library is released under an
> incompatible license.
>
> This is something that I will also really miss when it comes to Platform
> Apps. So I wonder whether anybody out there has suggestions for
> alternatives (using Swing)?
>
> ~ Hermien
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Boris Heithecker <
> boris.heithecker@gmx.net
> > wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9 as
> > kind of a test case.
> >
> > First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I
> > couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the
> installation
> > directory.
> >
> > Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java IDE
> > Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to be
> > active and enabled in Plugins.
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > --
> > Boris Heithecker
> >
>

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Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Is it possible to do this as a 3rd party plugin?

-Sven

Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 26. März 2018,
18:44:

> Hi,
>
> It was removed because the Beans Binding library is released under an
> incompatible license.
>
> This is something that I will also really miss when it comes to Platform
> Apps. So I wonder whether anybody out there has suggestions for
> alternatives (using Swing)?
>
> ~ Hermien
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Boris Heithecker <
> boris.heithecker@gmx.net
> > wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9 as
> > kind of a test case.
> >
> > First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I
> > couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the
> installation
> > directory.
> >
> > Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java IDE
> > Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to be
> > active and enabled in Plugins.
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > --
> > Boris Heithecker
> >
>

Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

It was removed because the Beans Binding library is released under an
incompatible license.

This is something that I will also really miss when it comes to Platform
Apps. So I wonder whether anybody out there has suggestions for
alternatives (using Swing)?

~ Hermien


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Boris Heithecker <boris.heithecker@gmx.net
> wrote:

> Hello,
> i'm trying to port my own NetBeans Platform App to NetBean 9 / Java 9 as
> kind of a test case.
>
> First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I
> couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the installation
> directory.
>
> Also, i've noticed that Beans Binding Support is missing in the Java IDE
> Swing GUI builder, although a module named "GUI Builder" is stated to be
> active and enabled in Plugins.
>
> Boris
>
> --
> Boris Heithecker
>

Re: NetCAT RCP

Posted by jo...@cenpalab.cu.
March 26, 2018 8:50 AM, "Boris Heithecker" <bo...@gmx.net> wrote:

> First issue: Where is module "org.jdesktop.beansbinding" in NetBean 9? I
> couldn't find "org-jdesktop-beansbinding.jar" anywhere in the installation
> directory.
> 

One of our swing projects still under development, but started back in Netbeans 7.X was also using the beansbinding library and after some searching, we found it here:
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.jdesktop

Regards,
Joe1962

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