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newbie: How to start a JSF project
Hi,
I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
JSF project running on tomcat.
I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
Thank you.
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com>.
Spring is optional in the mix, but needs to be used if you want to use
Orchestra (http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra) which offer
conversation scopes and other utilities to use JPA and JSF more
conveniently. You can use Spring also to register your JSF backing
beans as well, so you could register the beans there instead that
doing so in the faces-config.xml file, which you can then integrate
better with the other spring-controlled bits of your app. If you do
not want to use Spring, you can still go with your app and handle the
JPA in any other way, so you can have MyFaces+Trinidad+JPA+Maven...
Cheers,
Bruno
On 16/12/2007, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2007 5:50 PM, Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And check:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
> >
> > for a nice working out-of-the-box app that uses MyFaces
> > Core+Trinidad+Spring+Orchestra+JPA+Maven (I am forgetting anything)?
> >
> > This demo app uses JPA with Toplink by default, but it is a matter of
> > configuration to use JPA+Hibernate,
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> Thank you. But I am not sure why I need Spring here.
> MyFaces + Trinidad is 'Front end'
> JPA is 'Backend'
>
> What is the purpose of Spring? And it is quit big of a framework
> (20Mb) when it is not doing front end nor backend in this case. Please
> correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
>
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > On 15/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 15, 2007 5:50 PM, Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And check:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
>
> for a nice working out-of-the-box app that uses MyFaces
> Core+Trinidad+Spring+Orchestra+JPA+Maven (I am forgetting anything)?
>
> This demo app uses JPA with Toplink by default, but it is a matter of
> configuration to use JPA+Hibernate,
>
> Cheers,
Thank you. But I am not sure why I need Spring here.
MyFaces + Trinidad is 'Front end'
JPA is 'Backend'
What is the purpose of Spring? And it is quit big of a framework
(20Mb) when it is not doing front end nor backend in this case. Please
correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Bruno
>
>
> On 15/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > >
> > >
> > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com>.
Haha, of course, I was missing Facelets (I take it for granted) :)
Cheers,
Bruno
On 16/12/2007, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Facelets ;-)
>
> On Dec 16, 2007 12:50 AM, Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And check:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
> >
> > for a nice working out-of-the-box app that uses MyFaces
> > Core+Trinidad+Spring+Orchestra+JPA+Maven (I am forgetting anything)?
> >
> > This demo app uses JPA with Toplink by default, but it is a matter of
> > configuration to use JPA+Hibernate,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > On 15/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Facelets ;-)
On Dec 16, 2007 12:50 AM, Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And check:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
>
> for a nice working out-of-the-box app that uses MyFaces
> Core+Trinidad+Spring+Orchestra+JPA+Maven (I am forgetting anything)?
>
> This demo app uses JPA with Toplink by default, but it is a matter of
> configuration to use JPA+Hibernate,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruno
>
>
> On 15/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > >
> > >
> > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
further stuff:
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com>.
And check:
http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
for a nice working out-of-the-box app that uses MyFaces
Core+Trinidad+Spring+Orchestra+JPA+Maven (I am forgetting anything)?
This demo app uses JPA with Toplink by default, but it is a matter of
configuration to use JPA+Hibernate,
Cheers,
Bruno
On 15/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> >
> >
> > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com>.
Seam recommends the RI. There also were reports that I thought I had
read about problems with 1.2.0 with facelets. I am not opposed to
trying myfaces, but I *just* upgraded seam from 1.2.1 to 2.0.0 and was
trying to make it as simple as possible. They broke a lot of
compatibility between the version, so using what they recommended made
it one less problem to worry about.
Not to start a debate, but with the renaming of Sun's library without
the RI in the name, what is the advantage of using MyFaces instead of
the RI/Mojarra? Has it been benchmarked as being faster or use less
memory?
-Andrew
On Dec 16, 2007 1:22 PM, Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew, can I know the reason you are using JSF RI 1.2 instead of
> MyFaces? Is it due to some bug we need to fix? In theory, Seam should
> work perfectly fine with MyFaces 1.2.1-SNAPSHOT (being released at
> this moment). Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruno
>
>
> On 16/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Check out the JPA example -- it is running in tomcat with no EE at
> > all, 100% J2SE with the hibernate entitymanager (you can also use the
> > Hibernate session manager if you don't want to use the Java standard
> > APIs)
> >
> > That is the stack that I am on:
> >
> > Maven build
> > JSF RI 1.2
> > Facelets 1.1.14
> > JBoss Seam 2.0.0.GA
> > Trinidad 1.2.5-SNAPSHOT
> > Tomahawk 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
> > Tomahawk Sandbox 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 6:40 PM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 15, 2007 3:18 PM, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > > > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > The drawable of Seam is it ties to JEE. I either need to run it in a
> > > JEE container (e.g. Jboss), or I run an 'embedded jboss' with tomcat
> > > (to me, which beats the purpose of running my web app inside tomcat,
> > > if I just need a servlet container and wants to be lightweight).
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Bruno Aranda <br...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrew, can I know the reason you are using JSF RI 1.2 instead of
MyFaces? Is it due to some bug we need to fix? In theory, Seam should
work perfectly fine with MyFaces 1.2.1-SNAPSHOT (being released at
this moment). Thanks!
Cheers,
Bruno
On 16/12/2007, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Check out the JPA example -- it is running in tomcat with no EE at
> all, 100% J2SE with the hibernate entitymanager (you can also use the
> Hibernate session manager if you don't want to use the Java standard
> APIs)
>
> That is the stack that I am on:
>
> Maven build
> JSF RI 1.2
> Facelets 1.1.14
> JBoss Seam 2.0.0.GA
> Trinidad 1.2.5-SNAPSHOT
> Tomahawk 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
> Tomahawk Sandbox 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
>
> -Andrew
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 6:40 PM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 15, 2007 3:18 PM, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> > >
> >
> > Thank you.
> > The drawable of Seam is it ties to JEE. I either need to run it in a
> > JEE container (e.g. Jboss), or I run an 'embedded jboss' with tomcat
> > (to me, which beats the purpose of running my web app inside tomcat,
> > if I just need a servlet container and wants to be lightweight).
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com>.
Check out the JPA example -- it is running in tomcat with no EE at
all, 100% J2SE with the hibernate entitymanager (you can also use the
Hibernate session manager if you don't want to use the Java standard
APIs)
That is the stack that I am on:
Maven build
JSF RI 1.2
Facelets 1.1.14
JBoss Seam 2.0.0.GA
Trinidad 1.2.5-SNAPSHOT
Tomahawk 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
Tomahawk Sandbox 1.1.7-SNAPSHOT
-Andrew
On Dec 15, 2007 6:40 PM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2007 3:18 PM, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> > examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
> >
>
> Thank you.
> The drawable of Seam is it ties to JEE. I either need to run it in a
> JEE container (e.g. Jboss), or I run an 'embedded jboss' with tomcat
> (to me, which beats the purpose of running my web app inside tomcat,
> if I just need a servlet container and wants to be lightweight).
>
>
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> > >
> > >
> > > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 15, 2007 3:18 PM, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
> examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
>
Thank you.
The drawable of Seam is it ties to JEE. I either need to run it in a
JEE container (e.g. Jboss), or I run an 'embedded jboss' with tomcat
(to me, which beats the purpose of running my web app inside tomcat,
if I just need a servlet container and wants to be lightweight).
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> > JSF project running on tomcat.
> > I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
> >
> >
> > What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
Re: newbie: How to start a JSF project
Posted by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com>.
Check out the examples folder in the Seam download, there are many
examples. As for the other two, someone else will have to answer
On Dec 15, 2007 10:18 AM, ying lcs <yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to JSF, I would like to know what is the good way to start a
> JSF project running on tomcat.
> I am planning to Hibernate for database communication.
>
>
> What other things/framework do I need? Spring? Shale? Seam?
>
> Thank you.
>