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best development server for Tapestry
hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0 and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my computer to make my development.
here are the important point for me:
1- Must be easy to install
2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
3- Quick to start and stop.
4- Less configuration possible.
5- Must support JNDI
6- Not to much memory ungry...
Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
Please, let me know what you think !
Thanks
Carl Pelletier
P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Paul Cantrell <ca...@pobox.com>.
I've had good luck developing with Jetty 6. Unlike Tomcat, it's quite
easy to set up an "ant jetty" target which launches a server, then
just kill the process and run ant again for the next dev cycle.
Tomcat's hot deploy ought to make this easy, but I've had too many
resource leak, out of memory, and general "Tomcat goes haywire"
issues with the hot deploy to make it good for development. I'm much
happier with Jetty's clean restart approach.
That's not necessarily an endorsement / criticism of either in
production, of course.
Cheers,
Paul
On May 22, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carl Pelletier wrote:
> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with
> Tapestry 4.0 and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local
> server to install on my computer to make my development.
>
> here are the important point for me:
>
> 1- Must be easy to install
> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
> 3- Quick to start and stop.
> 4- Less configuration possible.
> 5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I
> have some problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to
> start and stop.
>
> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
> Please, let me know what you think !
>
> Thanks
>
> Carl Pelletier
>
> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Paul Cantrell <ca...@pobox.com>.
Tomcat's deploy / undeploy tasks are quite speedy, but I've found
that Tomcat starts going haywire after a few dozen hot deploys like
that -- usually it runs out of memory; sometimes the old instance
doesn't undeploy cleanly, and holds on to DB connections ...
sometimes, it gets into a confused internal state where new deploys
fail with mysterious errors, and I have to delete its temp directories.
For some reason, the hot deploy seems to work flawlessly for some and
fail for others. I'm in the latter group -- I find that I have to
restart Tomcat every hour or so. And since Jetty can start from cold
in roughly the same time that it takes Tomcat to do a hot deploy....
P
On May 23, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Claudiu Pîslaru wrote:
> Hi! As for long stop/start process with Tomcat service, look at my
> solution below.
>
> For development, I'm using Tomcat 5.5.9 on a Windows machine.
>
> Initially my dev-test-cycle was:
> - create/modify a file in Eclipse
> - stop Tomcat
> - copy (with an ant task) files in Tomcat webapps
> - start Tomcat
> - see the changes
>
> All this took me about one minute and a half. Pretty annoying...
>
> So I begun to look for jetty, but I didn't like to have different
> config files for developlment (jetty) and production (tomcat).
>
> Soon, after I found about the Tomcat Ant tasks (deploy/undeploy/
> restart/etc.) I'm very satisfied with my new configuration:
> - create/modify a file in Eclipse
> - press one button in Eclipse*
> - see the changes
>
> All this... in 13 seconds.
>
> * I've created a build.xml for my application which uses Tomcat Ant
> tasks (undeploy/deploy) and the "magic" button is the "Run" one
> (which runs my ant default task on build.xml).
>
> Just like that, clean and simple, I'm using Tomcat in the
> development process, without the need to install some Eclipse
> plugin/launcher.
>
>
> Regards,
> Claudiu Pislaru
>
>
>
> Carl Pelletier wrote:
>> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with
>> Tapestry 4.0 and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local
>> server to install on my computer to make my development.
>> here are the important point for me:
>> 1- Must be easy to install
>> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>> 3- Quick to start and stop.
>> 4- Less configuration possible.
>> 5- Must support JNDI
>> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I
>> have some problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to
>> start and stop.
>> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough.. Please, let me know
>> what you think !
>> Thanks
>> Carl Pelletier
>> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>>
>
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Claudiu Pîslaru <cl...@net-sol.ro>.
Hi! As for long stop/start process with Tomcat service, look at my
solution below.
For development, I'm using Tomcat 5.5.9 on a Windows machine.
Initially my dev-test-cycle was:
- create/modify a file in Eclipse
- stop Tomcat
- copy (with an ant task) files in Tomcat webapps
- start Tomcat
- see the changes
All this took me about one minute and a half. Pretty annoying...
So I begun to look for jetty, but I didn't like to have different config
files for developlment (jetty) and production (tomcat).
Soon, after I found about the Tomcat Ant tasks
(deploy/undeploy/restart/etc.) I'm very satisfied with my new configuration:
- create/modify a file in Eclipse
- press one button in Eclipse*
- see the changes
All this... in 13 seconds.
* I've created a build.xml for my application which uses Tomcat Ant
tasks (undeploy/deploy) and the "magic" button is the "Run" one (which
runs my ant default task on build.xml).
Just like that, clean and simple, I'm using Tomcat in the development
process, without the need to install some Eclipse plugin/launcher.
Regards,
Claudiu Pislaru
Carl Pelletier wrote:
> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0 and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my computer to make my development.
>
> here are the important point for me:
>
> 1- Must be easy to install
> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
> 3- Quick to start and stop.
> 4- Less configuration possible.
> 5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>
> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
> Please, let me know what you think !
>
> Thanks
>
> Carl Pelletier
>
> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>
RE: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by "Gentry, Michael (Contractor)" <mi...@fanniemae.com>.
I switched from Tomcat 5.0.x to Jetty (currently 5.1.8) because it
seemed much faster/leaner for me (at least on my PowerBook). I still
deploy on Tomcat, but Jetty works great for development so far. I can
launch from within Eclipse (get Jetty Launcher) and debugging/hot
swapping is pretty good.
/dev/mrg
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Pelletier [mailto:carl.pelletier@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:00 PM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: best development server for Tapestry
hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry
4.0 and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install
on my computer to make my development.
here are the important point for me:
1- Must be easy to install
2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
3- Quick to start and stop.
4- Less configuration possible.
5- Must support JNDI
6- Not to much memory ungry...
Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have
some problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and
stop.
I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
Please, let me know what you think !
Thanks
Carl Pelletier
P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Hugo Palma <hu...@gmail.com>.
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/JNDI
On 5/23/06, Carl Pelletier <ca...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> Ok, thanks all for your reply. I think I will give a try to Jetty. Can
> someone point me out to a configuration using JNDI with Jetty 6 ?
>
> Thanks all for your reply !
>
> Carl Pelletier
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nick Faiz <ni...@q9software.com>
> To: Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:35:18 AM
> Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Let me echo Stephane - Jetty works very during dev. for hot deploy, etc..
>
> Nick
>
> Stephane Decleire wrote:
> > I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
> > Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
> > is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
> > faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
> >
> > Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
> >
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
> >> Launcher plugin (free)
> >> for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load
> >> Tomcat and
> >> all the jar files
> >> on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much
> >> easier
> >> than using ant :)
> >>
> >> btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
> >> http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >> kris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carl
> >> Pelletier
> >> <carl.pelletier@y
> >>
> >> ahoo.ca> An
> >>
> >> users@tapestry.apache.org 22.05.2006
> >> 20:00 Kopie
> >>
> >>
> >> Thema Bitte antworten best development server
> >> for an
> >> Tapestry "Tapestry
> >> users"
> >> <users@tapestry.a
> >>
> >> pache.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry
> >> 4.0
> >> and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install
> >> on my
> >> computer to make my development.
> >>
> >> here are the important point for me:
> >>
> >> 1- Must be easy to install
> >> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
> >> 3- Quick to start and stop.
> >> 4- Less configuration possible.
> >> 5- Must support JNDI
> >> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
> >>
> >> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have
> >> some
> >> problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and
> stop.
> >>
> >> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
> >>
> >> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
> >>
> >> Please, let me know what you think !
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Carl Pelletier
> >>
> >> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Carl Pelletier <ca...@yahoo.ca>.
Ok, thanks all for your reply. I think I will give a try to Jetty. Can someone point me out to a configuration using JNDI with Jetty 6 ?
Thanks all for your reply !
Carl Pelletier
----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Faiz <ni...@q9software.com>
To: Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
Hi,
Let me echo Stephane - Jetty works very during dev. for hot deploy, etc..
Nick
Stephane Decleire wrote:
> I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
> Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
> is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
> faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
>
> Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>> Launcher plugin (free)
>> for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load
>> Tomcat and
>> all the jar files
>> on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much
>> easier
>> than using ant :)
>>
>> btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>> http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>>
>> best regards,
>> kris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl
>> Pelletier
>> <carl.pelletier@y
>>
>> ahoo.ca> An
>>
>> users@tapestry.apache.org 22.05.2006
>> 20:00 Kopie
>>
>>
>> Thema Bitte antworten best development server
>> for an
>> Tapestry "Tapestry
>> users"
>> <users@tapestry.a
>>
>> pache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry
>> 4.0
>> and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install
>> on my
>> computer to make my development.
>>
>> here are the important point for me:
>>
>> 1- Must be easy to install
>> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>> 3- Quick to start and stop.
>> 4- Less configuration possible.
>> 5- Must support JNDI
>> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>>
>> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have
>> some
>> problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>>
>> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>>
>> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>>
>> Please, let me know what you think !
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Carl Pelletier
>>
>> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Nick Faiz <ni...@q9software.com>.
Hi,
Let me echo Stephane - Jetty works very during dev. for hot deploy, etc..
Nick
Stephane Decleire wrote:
> I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
> Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
> is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
> faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
>
> Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>> Launcher plugin (free)
>> for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load
>> Tomcat and
>> all the jar files
>> on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much
>> easier
>> than using ant :)
>>
>> btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>> http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>>
>> best regards,
>> kris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl
>> Pelletier
>> <carl.pelletier@y
>>
>> ahoo.ca> An
>>
>> users@tapestry.apache.org 22.05.2006
>> 20:00 Kopie
>>
>>
>> Thema Bitte antworten best development server
>> for an
>> Tapestry "Tapestry
>> users"
>> <users@tapestry.a
>>
>> pache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry
>> 4.0
>> and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install
>> on my
>> computer to make my development.
>>
>> here are the important point for me:
>>
>> 1- Must be easy to install
>> 2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>> 3- Quick to start and stop.
>> 4- Less configuration possible.
>> 5- Must support JNDI
>> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>>
>> Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have
>> some
>> problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>>
>> I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>>
>> Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>>
>> Please, let me know what you think !
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Carl Pelletier
>>
>> P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Carl Pelletier <ca...@yahoo.ca>.
Wow, thanks all for your reply, I`m new with Tapestry and Jetty, but I must say that I like it very much!
Thanks again...
Carl Pelletier
----- Original Message ----
From: Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>
To: Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:43:38 PM
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
Or, you can just create an eclipse "Run" application launch and you don't
need to attach to remote vms or startup with any special options at all.
If you want to run it normally just click Run-><your app name> from the Run
menu, if you want to run in debug mode just click "Debug As" instead,
choosing the same exact launch config.
It's what I've been using for the tap 4.1 dev release,
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry4/trunk/examples/TimeTracker/src/config/
On 5/23/06, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
>
> Carl,
>
> Look at the start up script for Jetty. We start it as part of
> JBoss. What you have to do is to add the following options to the
> command-line for starting Jetty or any Java process for that matter.
>
> # Debugger arguments
> #JAVA_OPTS="-Xdebug
> -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8787,server=y,suspend=n $JAVA_OPTS"
>
> Then in Eclipse you create a "Debug" configuration from the Run
> menu. Select the "Remote Java Application". Right click and select
> "new". It will give you a new instance. Make sure that you change the port
> from 8000 to whatever you used on the command-line. In my example above the
> port is 8787.
>
> Now set a breakpoint in your code, copy your .war or whatever into the
> Jetty directory you normally use to deploy. Before you connect up to Jetty,
> you need to open a "Debug" Perspective in Eclipse. And you can either
> connect by using Run->Debug->Your Config. Or at the very top there should
> be a bug icon that you can select to have it connect. Once that has
> happened, when you are walking through your app and hit a break point it
> should just stop.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Pelletier [mailto:carl.pelletier@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 11:59 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
>
> That look great for me, can you explain a little how you attach it to
> Eclipse ?
>
> For now, I starting it from the prompt. It work great`s but I have to look
> of my debug log4j in the cmd of windows, who`s pretty bad....
>
> thanks
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>
> To: "Tapestry users sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com" <
> users@tapestry.apache.org>; Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54:28 AM
> Subject: RE: best development server for Tapestry
>
>
> We use Jetty running standalone. And then as part of our ant tasks we
> copy the war file over. It auto-deploys. I attach to it via eclipse and
> just let it run. Sometimes when I change the code while debugging, it
> redeploys the code, backs up the jvm a few lines and keeps on running.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com]
> Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 1:50 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
>
> I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
> Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
> is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
> faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
>
> Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>
> >hi,
> >
> >maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
> >Launcher plugin (free)
> >for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat
> and
> >all the jar files
> >on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much
> easier
> >than using ant :)
> >
> >btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
> >http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
> >
> >best regards,
> >kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Pelletier
> > <carl.pelletier@y
> > ahoo.ca>
> An
> > users@tapestry.apache.org
> > 22.05.200620:00 Kopie
> >
> >
> Thema
> > Bitte antworten best development server for
> > an Tapestry
> > "Tapestry users"
> > <users@tapestry.a
> > pache.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
> >and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
> >computer to make my development.
> >
> >here are the important point for me:
> >
> >1- Must be easy to install
> >2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
> >3- Quick to start and stop.
> >4- Less configuration possible.
> >5- Must support JNDI
> > 6- Not to much memory ungry...
> >
> >Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
> >problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
> >
> >I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
> >
> >Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
> >
> >Please, let me know what you think !
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Carl Pelletier
> >
> >P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
> >
> >
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Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Or, you can just create an eclipse "Run" application launch and you don't
need to attach to remote vms or startup with any special options at all.
If you want to run it normally just click Run-><your app name> from the Run
menu, if you want to run in debug mode just click "Debug As" instead,
choosing the same exact launch config.
It's what I've been using for the tap 4.1 dev release,
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry4/trunk/examples/TimeTracker/src/config/
On 5/23/06, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
>
> Carl,
>
> Look at the start up script for Jetty. We start it as part of
> JBoss. What you have to do is to add the following options to the
> command-line for starting Jetty or any Java process for that matter.
>
> # Debugger arguments
> #JAVA_OPTS="-Xdebug
> -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8787,server=y,suspend=n $JAVA_OPTS"
>
> Then in Eclipse you create a "Debug" configuration from the Run
> menu. Select the "Remote Java Application". Right click and select
> "new". It will give you a new instance. Make sure that you change the port
> from 8000 to whatever you used on the command-line. In my example above the
> port is 8787.
>
> Now set a breakpoint in your code, copy your .war or whatever into the
> Jetty directory you normally use to deploy. Before you connect up to Jetty,
> you need to open a "Debug" Perspective in Eclipse. And you can either
> connect by using Run->Debug->Your Config. Or at the very top there should
> be a bug icon that you can select to have it connect. Once that has
> happened, when you are walking through your app and hit a break point it
> should just stop.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Pelletier [mailto:carl.pelletier@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 11:59 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
>
> That look great for me, can you explain a little how you attach it to
> Eclipse ?
>
> For now, I starting it from the prompt. It work great`s but I have to look
> of my debug log4j in the cmd of windows, who`s pretty bad....
>
> thanks
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>
> To: "Tapestry users sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com" <
> users@tapestry.apache.org>; Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54:28 AM
> Subject: RE: best development server for Tapestry
>
>
> We use Jetty running standalone. And then as part of our ant tasks we
> copy the war file over. It auto-deploys. I attach to it via eclipse and
> just let it run. Sometimes when I change the code while debugging, it
> redeploys the code, backs up the jvm a few lines and keeps on running.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com]
> Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 1:50 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
>
> I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
> Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
> is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
> faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
>
> Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>
> >hi,
> >
> >maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
> >Launcher plugin (free)
> >for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat
> and
> >all the jar files
> >on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much
> easier
> >than using ant :)
> >
> >btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
> >http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
> >
> >best regards,
> >kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Pelletier
> > <carl.pelletier@y
> > ahoo.ca>
> An
> > users@tapestry.apache.org
> > 22.05.200620:00 Kopie
> >
> >
> Thema
> > Bitte antworten best development server for
> > an Tapestry
> > "Tapestry users"
> > <users@tapestry.a
> > pache.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
> >and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
> >computer to make my development.
> >
> >here are the important point for me:
> >
> >1- Must be easy to install
> >2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
> >3- Quick to start and stop.
> >4- Less configuration possible.
> >5- Must support JNDI
> > 6- Not to much memory ungry...
> >
> >Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
> >problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
> >
> >I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
> >
> >Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
> >
> >Please, let me know what you think !
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Carl Pelletier
> >
> >P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Stéphane Decleire
>
> 05 56 57 99 20
> 06 63 78 69 06
>
>
>
--
Jesse Kuhnert
Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.
RE: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
Carl,
Look at the start up script for Jetty. We start it as part of JBoss. What you have to do is to add the following options to the command-line for starting Jetty or any Java process for that matter.
# Debugger arguments
#JAVA_OPTS="-Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8787,server=y,suspend=n $JAVA_OPTS"
Then in Eclipse you create a "Debug" configuration from the Run menu. Select the "Remote Java Application". Right click and select "new". It will give you a new instance. Make sure that you change the port from 8000 to whatever you used on the command-line. In my example above the port is 8787.
Now set a breakpoint in your code, copy your .war or whatever into the Jetty directory you normally use to deploy. Before you connect up to Jetty, you need to open a "Debug" Perspective in Eclipse. And you can either connect by using Run->Debug->Your Config. Or at the very top there should be a bug icon that you can select to have it connect. Once that has happened, when you are walking through your app and hit a break point it should just stop.
HTH,
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Pelletier [mailto:carl.pelletier@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 11:59 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
That look great for me, can you explain a little how you attach it to Eclipse ?
For now, I starting it from the prompt. It work great`s but I have to look of my debug log4j in the cmd of windows, who`s pretty bad....
thanks
----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>
To: "Tapestry users sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com" <us...@tapestry.apache.org>; Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54:28 AM
Subject: RE: best development server for Tapestry
We use Jetty running standalone. And then as part of our ant tasks we copy the war file over. It auto-deploys. I attach to it via eclipse and just let it run. Sometimes when I change the code while debugging, it redeploys the code, backs up the jvm a few lines and keeps on running.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com]
Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 1:50 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>hi,
>
>maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>Launcher plugin (free)
>for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat and
>all the jar files
>on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much easier
>than using ant :)
>
>btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>
>best regards,
>kris
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Pelletier
> <carl.pelletier@y
> ahoo.ca> An
> users@tapestry.apache.org
> 22.05.2006 20:00 Kopie
>
> Thema
> Bitte antworten best development server for
> an Tapestry
> "Tapestry users"
> <users@tapestry.a
> pache.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
>and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
>computer to make my development.
>
>here are the important point for me:
>
>1- Must be easy to install
>2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>3- Quick to start and stop.
>4- Less configuration possible.
>5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
>Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
>problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>
>I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
>Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
>Please, let me know what you think !
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Pelletier
>
>P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>
>
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>
>
>
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Stéphane Decleire
05 56 57 99 20
06 63 78 69 06
Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Carl Pelletier <ca...@yahoo.ca>.
That look great for me, can you explain a little how you attach it to Eclipse ?
For now, I starting it from the prompt. It work great`s but I have to look of my debug log4j in the cmd of windows, who`s pretty bad....
thanks
----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>
To: "Tapestry users sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com" <us...@tapestry.apache.org>; Tapestry users <us...@tapestry.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54:28 AM
Subject: RE: best development server for Tapestry
We use Jetty running standalone. And then as part of our ant tasks we copy the war file over. It auto-deploys. I attach to it via eclipse and just let it run. Sometimes when I change the code while debugging, it redeploys the code, backs up the jvm a few lines and keeps on running.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com]
Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 1:50 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>hi,
>
>maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>Launcher plugin (free)
>for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat and
>all the jar files
>on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much easier
>than using ant :)
>
>btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>
>best regards,
>kris
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Pelletier
> <carl.pelletier@y
> ahoo.ca> An
> users@tapestry.apache.org
> 22.05.2006 20:00 Kopie
>
> Thema
> Bitte antworten best development server for
> an Tapestry
> "Tapestry users"
> <users@tapestry.a
> pache.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
>and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
>computer to make my development.
>
>here are the important point for me:
>
>1- Must be easy to install
>2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>3- Quick to start and stop.
>4- Less configuration possible.
>5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
>Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
>problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>
>I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
>Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
>Please, let me know what you think !
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Pelletier
>
>P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>
>
>
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Stéphane Decleire
05 56 57 99 20
06 63 78 69 06
RE: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
We use Jetty running standalone. And then as part of our ant tasks we copy the war file over. It auto-deploys. I attach to it via eclipse and just let it run. Sometimes when I change the code while debugging, it redeploys the code, backs up the jvm a few lines and keeps on running.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephane Decleire [mailto:sdecleire@cariboo-networks.com]
Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 1:50 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: best development server for Tapestry
I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>hi,
>
>maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>Launcher plugin (free)
>for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat and
>all the jar files
>on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much easier
>than using ant :)
>
>btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>
>best regards,
>kris
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Pelletier
> <carl.pelletier@y
> ahoo.ca> An
> users@tapestry.apache.org
> 22.05.2006 20:00 Kopie
>
> Thema
> Bitte antworten best development server for
> an Tapestry
> "Tapestry users"
> <users@tapestry.a
> pache.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
>and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
>computer to make my development.
>
>here are the important point for me:
>
>1- Must be easy to install
>2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>3- Quick to start and stop.
>4- Less configuration possible.
>5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
>Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
>problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>
>I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
>Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
>Please, let me know what you think !
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Pelletier
>
>P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>
>
>
--
Stéphane Decleire
05 56 57 99 20
06 63 78 69 06
Re: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Stephane Decleire <sd...@cariboo-networks.com>.
I've moved last month from this configuration to Jetty (with the Jetty
Launcher plugin which permit to avoid Ant too) and i found that Jetty
is a great server for the developpement process ! I think it's 10x
faster than Tomcat to relaunch ...
Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>hi,
>
>maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
>Launcher plugin (free)
>for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat and
>all the jar files
>on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much easier
>than using ant :)
>
>btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
>http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
>
>best regards,
>kris
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Pelletier
> <carl.pelletier@y
> ahoo.ca> An
> users@tapestry.apache.org
> 22.05.2006 20:00 Kopie
>
> Thema
> Bitte antworten best development server for
> an Tapestry
> "Tapestry users"
> <users@tapestry.a
> pache.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
>and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
>computer to make my development.
>
>here are the important point for me:
>
>1- Must be easy to install
>2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
>3- Quick to start and stop.
>4- Less configuration possible.
>5- Must support JNDI
> 6- Not to much memory ungry...
>
>Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
>problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
>
>I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
>
>Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
>
>Please, let me know what you think !
>
>Thanks
>
>Carl Pelletier
>
>P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
>
>
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>To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
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>
>
>
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Stéphane Decleire
05 56 57 99 20
06 63 78 69 06
RE: best development server for Tapestry
Posted by Kristian Marinkovic <kr...@porsche.co.at>.
hi,
maybe its off topic but i use tomcat 5.5 with the Sysdeo Eclipse Tomcat
Launcher plugin (free)
for development. This plugin uses a separate classloader to load Tomcat and
all the jar files
on the classpath of my project. IMHO this way of developing is much easier
than using ant :)
btw. the creators of this plugin are french too:
http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatpluginfr
best regards,
kris
Carl Pelletier
<carl.pelletier@y
ahoo.ca> An
users@tapestry.apache.org
22.05.2006 20:00 Kopie
Thema
Bitte antworten best development server for
an Tapestry
"Tapestry users"
<users@tapestry.a
pache.org>
hi everyone, I'm just starting a new development projet with Tapestry 4.0
and Hibernate 3.1. I'm looking for the best local server to install on my
computer to make my development.
here are the important point for me:
1- Must be easy to install
2- Easy to deploy with ant and Eclipse.
3- Quick to start and stop.
4- Less configuration possible.
5- Must support JNDI
6- Not to much memory ungry...
Right now, I use Tomcat 5.5.17 with the service installed and I have some
problems. Use about 90mg of memory and is really long to start and stop.
I'm considaring switching to Jetty 6, is a good idea?
Maybe some theak in tomcat maybe anough..
Please, let me know what you think !
Thanks
Carl Pelletier
P.S> Sorry for bad english, i'm french
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