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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Levieux Cedric <ce...@europatrust.com> on 2004/10/14 15:59:48 UTC

[HI][TAGS] Greetings

Hi, (to start,)

I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for tags add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.

If it is the case, I'll expose them one by one.

Regards,

Cedric

Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
At 9:21 AM +0200 10/18/04, Levieux Cedric wrote:
>I think there is a misunderstanding between us.
>
>As far as I know there is no scope range for tiles since it uses its own
>container. So I can't test if a parameter is present or not in a call of a
>tile.

You are right; anything specific to tiles would be appropriate to 
submit for addition to the Tiles project.   Generally, you would 
submit these things as enhancement requests in the Bugzilla issue 
tracking server.
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ with source files or patches attached.

Sorry for the confusion.

Joe

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Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Levieux Cedric <ce...@europatrust.com>.
I think there is a misunderstanding between us.

As far as I know there is no scope range for tiles since it uses its own
container. So I can't test if a parameter is present or not in a call of a
tile.

This is this kind of things I propose to add.

Regards,

Cedric

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Cooper" <mf...@gmail.com>
To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings


> On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:45:59 -0500, Joe Germuska <jo...@germuska.com> wrote:
> > In general, we are advising people to use JSTL tags wherever they
> > serve a purpose that overlaps with Struts tags.  It sounds like
> > <c:if> and similar tags would probably serve most of your logic test
> > needs.  As for verifying the presence of a request attribute, it
> > seems that the Jakarta Taglibs "request" taglib has a tag which can
> > do that.
> >
> >
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/request-doc/request-1.0/index.html#reference
> >
>
> Or you can use JSTL for this too:
>
> <c:if test="${requestScope.myAttr}">
>   ...
> </c:if>
>
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
> > Struts tags that have a guaranteed future would be those that encode
> > knowledge about things that Struts does uniquely -- for example, the
> > "logic:messagesPresent" tag and the "html:messages" tag.  Tags that
> > do something which could be used in any JSP application, whether or
> > not Struts is the controller, don't have many champions.  We
> > recommend that those be developed in a way which makes their
> > independence from Struts more clear.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:18 AM +0200 10/15/04, Levieux Cedric wrote:
> > >Like I said this is only add-ons
> > >
> > >For example in the tiles I need to develop for my own purpose a tag
that
> > >verify if an attribute was set or not during the call of the tile.
> > >
> > >It has the same behavior as the logic:present tag but focus on the
tiles.
> > >
> > >I also need to develop some add-ons for the bean:message for being
flexible
> > >with arguments coming from beans or the logic:redirect
> > >
> > >Even some times I need to compare two beans with the logic tags.
> > >
> > >Cedric
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Joe Germuska" <Jo...@Germuska.com>
> > >To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:33 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings
> > >
> > >
> > >>  >I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for
tags
> > >>  >add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.
> > >>
> > >>  Depends -- what do you have in mind?
> > >>
> > >>  Going forward, I think we would only want to add tags that are
> > >>  specifically focused around Struts functionality.  Tags that don't
> > >>  depend on Struts don't really belong in the Struts project -- some
> > >>  might fit into existing Jakarta Taglibs projects, or might be
> > >>  proposed as new subprojects there, and others might make good
> > >>  projects on their own, like the displaytag libraries.
> > >>
> > >>  What do your tag libraries do?
> > >>
> > >>  Joe
> > >>
> > >>  --
> > >>  Joe Germuska
> > >>  Joe@Germuska.com
> > >>  http://blog.germuska.com
> > >>  "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
> > >>  back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
> > >>      - Carlos Santana
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Joe Germuska
> > Joe@Germuska.com
> > http://blog.germuska.com
> > "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
> > back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
> >    - Carlos Santana
> >
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Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:45:59 -0500, Joe Germuska <jo...@germuska.com> wrote:
> In general, we are advising people to use JSTL tags wherever they
> serve a purpose that overlaps with Struts tags.  It sounds like
> <c:if> and similar tags would probably serve most of your logic test
> needs.  As for verifying the presence of a request attribute, it
> seems that the Jakarta Taglibs "request" taglib has a tag which can
> do that.
> 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/request-doc/request-1.0/index.html#reference
> 

Or you can use JSTL for this too:

<c:if test="${requestScope.myAttr}">
  ...
</c:if>


--
Martin Cooper


> Struts tags that have a guaranteed future would be those that encode
> knowledge about things that Struts does uniquely -- for example, the
> "logic:messagesPresent" tag and the "html:messages" tag.  Tags that
> do something which could be used in any JSP application, whether or
> not Struts is the controller, don't have many champions.  We
> recommend that those be developed in a way which makes their
> independence from Struts more clear.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:18 AM +0200 10/15/04, Levieux Cedric wrote:
> >Like I said this is only add-ons
> >
> >For example in the tiles I need to develop for my own purpose a tag that
> >verify if an attribute was set or not during the call of the tile.
> >
> >It has the same behavior as the logic:present tag but focus on the tiles.
> >
> >I also need to develop some add-ons for the bean:message for being flexible
> >with arguments coming from beans or the logic:redirect
> >
> >Even some times I need to compare two beans with the logic tags.
> >
> >Cedric
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joe Germuska" <Jo...@Germuska.com>
> >To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
> >Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings
> >
> >
> >>  >I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for tags
> >>  >add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.
> >>
> >>  Depends -- what do you have in mind?
> >>
> >>  Going forward, I think we would only want to add tags that are
> >>  specifically focused around Struts functionality.  Tags that don't
> >>  depend on Struts don't really belong in the Struts project -- some
> >>  might fit into existing Jakarta Taglibs projects, or might be
> >>  proposed as new subprojects there, and others might make good
> >>  projects on their own, like the displaytag libraries.
> >>
> >>  What do your tag libraries do?
> >>
> >>  Joe
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  Joe Germuska
> >>  Joe@Germuska.com
> >>  http://blog.germuska.com
> >>  "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
> >>  back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
> >>      - Carlos Santana
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> --
> Joe Germuska
> Joe@Germuska.com
> http://blog.germuska.com
> "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
> back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
>    - Carlos Santana
> 
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Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
In general, we are advising people to use JSTL tags wherever they 
serve a purpose that overlaps with Struts tags.  It sounds like 
<c:if> and similar tags would probably serve most of your logic test 
needs.  As for verifying the presence of a request attribute, it 
seems that the Jakarta Taglibs "request" taglib has a tag which can 
do that.

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/request-doc/request-1.0/index.html#reference

Struts tags that have a guaranteed future would be those that encode 
knowledge about things that Struts does uniquely -- for example, the 
"logic:messagesPresent" tag and the "html:messages" tag.  Tags that 
do something which could be used in any JSP application, whether or 
not Struts is the controller, don't have many champions.  We 
recommend that those be developed in a way which makes their 
independence from Struts more clear.

Joe


At 11:18 AM +0200 10/15/04, Levieux Cedric wrote:
>Like I said this is only add-ons
>
>For example in the tiles I need to develop for my own purpose a tag that
>verify if an attribute was set or not during the call of the tile.
>
>It has the same behavior as the logic:present tag but focus on the tiles.
>
>I also need to develop some add-ons for the bean:message for being flexible
>with arguments coming from beans or the logic:redirect
>
>Even some times I need to compare two beans with the logic tags.
>
>Cedric
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Germuska" <Jo...@Germuska.com>
>To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings
>
>
>>  >I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for tags
>>  >add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.
>>
>>  Depends -- what do you have in mind?
>>
>>  Going forward, I think we would only want to add tags that are
>>  specifically focused around Struts functionality.  Tags that don't
>>  depend on Struts don't really belong in the Struts project -- some
>>  might fit into existing Jakarta Taglibs projects, or might be
>>  proposed as new subprojects there, and others might make good
>>  projects on their own, like the displaytag libraries.
>>
>>  What do your tag libraries do?
>>
>>  Joe
>>
>>  --
>>  Joe Germuska
>>  Joe@Germuska.com
>>  http://blog.germuska.com
>>  "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
>>  back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
>>      - Carlos Santana
>
>
>
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Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Levieux Cedric <ce...@europatrust.com>.
Like I said this is only add-ons

For example in the tiles I need to develop for my own purpose a tag that
verify if an attribute was set or not during the call of the tile.

It has the same behavior as the logic:present tag but focus on the tiles.

I also need to develop some add-ons for the bean:message for being flexible
with arguments coming from beans or the logic:redirect

Even some times I need to compare two beans with the logic tags.

Cedric

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Germuska" <Jo...@Germuska.com>
To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings


> >I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for tags
> >add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.
>
> Depends -- what do you have in mind?
>
> Going forward, I think we would only want to add tags that are
> specifically focused around Struts functionality.  Tags that don't
> depend on Struts don't really belong in the Struts project -- some
> might fit into existing Jakarta Taglibs projects, or might be
> proposed as new subprojects there, and others might make good
> projects on their own, like the displaytag libraries.
>
> What do your tag libraries do?
>
> Joe
>
> --
> Joe Germuska
> Joe@Germuska.com
> http://blog.germuska.com
> "In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn
> back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
>     - Carlos Santana



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Re: [HI][TAGS] Greetings

Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
>I'm here to see if the struts development community is open for tags 
>add-on for the existing struts tagslibs.

Depends -- what do you have in mind?

Going forward, I think we would only want to add tags that are 
specifically focused around Struts functionality.  Tags that don't 
depend on Struts don't really belong in the Struts project -- some 
might fit into existing Jakarta Taglibs projects, or might be 
proposed as new subprojects there, and others might make good 
projects on their own, like the displaytag libraries.

What do your tag libraries do?

Joe

--
Joe Germuska            
Joe@Germuska.com  
http://blog.germuska.com    
"In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll turn 
back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place."
    - Carlos Santana