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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de> on 2003/09/19 17:32:00 UTC

Bitflux

Hello!

I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
default publication. It works in the computerworld
publication for editing the headlines.
So it must have something to do with the default pub.

It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
list others had the same problem.

Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
to load files not exisiting in the default pub:

1. simple.xsl
2. simple.xsd
and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?

Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
simple2xhtml.xsl ?

Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
bitflux and the world of lenya.

http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/default/bitflu
x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl&
url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bit
flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml&
url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html



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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.org>.
Robert Koberg wrote:

<snip />

>>>      
>>>
>>it should be working now. Please take a loot at the blog publication as
>>described in one of my previous emails.
>>    
>>
>
>Huh?
>

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.lenya.devel/1254


>
>  
>
>>>Is there any documentation
>>>that defines the hooks that Lenya needs for communicating with an editor?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>take a look at the pubs/blog/sitemap.xmap and pubs/blog/webdav.xmap
>>    
>>
>
>I would suggest clarifying it in your docs. It can only help Lenya if
>client-side devs can easily hookup.
>
unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment, but the sitemaps are 
pretty much self-explaining (I believe).
Any help appreciated on adding a description to the docu ;-)

>
>  
>

<snip />

>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Is your client-side app available somewhere?
>>    
>>
>
>
>It is only available to clients or for demo'ing to (serious) potential
>clients, sorry. 
>

So I guess you or one of your clients have to write an interface for Lenya.

Thanks

Michael

>
>-Rob
>
>
>  
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>    
>>
>
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RE: Bitflux

Posted by Robert Koberg <ro...@koberg.com>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wechner [mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.org]
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 4:46 PM
> To: Lenya Users List
> 
> Robert Koberg wrote:
> 
> >
> >Well, we (liveSTORYBOARD.com) have a wysiwyg, XMLSchema validating editor
> >for IE only (uses MSXML SOM). Of course I am biased, so I think it is the
> >best out there :) All of these types (schema validating) of editors,
> >including ours, could be much better usability-wise -- it is a tough
> >balancing act.
> >
> >It currently does not work with Lenya, however.
> >
> 
> it should be working now. Please take a loot at the blog publication as
> described in one of my previous emails.

Huh?

> 
> > Is there any documentation
> >that defines the hooks that Lenya needs for communicating with an editor?
> >
> take a look at the pubs/blog/sitemap.xmap and pubs/blog/webdav.xmap

I would suggest clarifying it in your docs. It can only help Lenya if
client-side devs can easily hookup.

> 
> > Is
> >it just PUT?
> >
> 
> yes, it's basically just PUT and GET
> 
> >I did not see anything after a quick glance through the docs.
> >If we connected our front-end with Lenya's back-end (something I
> definitely
> >want to do some day...), we would want to provide the entire client-side
> >app.
> >
> 
> Is your client-side app available somewhere?


It is only available to clients or for demo'ing to (serious) potential
clients, sorry. 

-Rob


> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 



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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.org>.
Robert Koberg wrote:

>Hi,
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Wechner [mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.org]
>>Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 2:03 AM
>>To: Lenya Users List
>>
>>Steve Duncan wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Michael
>>>   Thanks for your hard work.   BXENG looks great for Netscape and
>>>      
>>>
>>Mozilla
>>    
>>
>>>users,
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>BXENG was created by Christian Stocker.   I just contributed the Atom
>>example and wrote
>>the interface on the server side (Lenya), which is mainly GET and PUT.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>will the commercial version of XOPUS be the primary option for
>>>companies that have standardize on IE?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>yes, I guess so, although Lon Boonen mentioned once that they would also
>>like to support
>>Mozilla in the future, but I suggest that you ask them directly.
>>    
>>
>
>Well, we (liveSTORYBOARD.com) have a wysiwyg, XMLSchema validating editor
>for IE only (uses MSXML SOM). Of course I am biased, so I think it is the
>best out there :) All of these types (schema validating) of editors,
>including ours, could be much better usability-wise -- it is a tough
>balancing act.
>
>It currently does not work with Lenya, however.
>

it should be working now. Please take a loot at the blog publication as 
described in one of my previous emails.

> Is there any documentation
>that defines the hooks that Lenya needs for communicating with an editor?
>
take a look at the pubs/blog/sitemap.xmap and pubs/blog/webdav.xmap

> Is
>it just PUT? 
>

yes, it's basically just PUT and GET

>I did not see anything after a quick glance through the docs.
>If we connected our front-end with Lenya's back-end (something I definitely
>want to do some day...), we would want to provide the entire client-side
>app.
>

Is your client-side app available somewhere?

Thanks

Michael


>
>By the way, have you seen the new Flash MX 2004? I started trying to move
>our client-side app into flash using their HTML and CSS implementation, but
>their support for these things is not that good (terrible, actually) yet.
>But, on the ActionScript side they have made some great advances (ECMA-262,
>datatyping, DOM, streaming XML/RPC, external scripts) -- much more like java
>now. 
>
>Best,
>-Rob
>
>  
>
>>HTH
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.org> wrote in message
>>>news:3F6B7B84.8070807@wyona.org...
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Christian Kreutz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>>I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
>>>>>default publication. It works in the computerworld
>>>>>publication for editing the headlines.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the
>>>>"computerworld"
>>>>publication still works ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>So it must have something to do with the default pub.
>>>>>
>>>>>It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
>>>>>list others had the same problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
>>>>>to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. simple.xsl
>>>>>2. simple.xsd
>>>>>and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
>>>>>either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default
>>>>publication is making use
>>>>of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been
>>>>upgraded re multilinguality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
>>>>>simple2xhtml.xsl ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
>>>>>bitflux and the world of lenya.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new
>>>>Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
>>>>will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form
>>>>Editor which you can try out
>>>>within the "blog" publication.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-
>>>>        
>>>>
>>xml=/lenya/default/bitfl
>>    
>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>u
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-
>>>>        
>>>>
>>xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
>>    
>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>&
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-
>>>>        
>>>>
>>css=/lenya/default/bi
>>    
>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>t
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>flux/css/simple.css&url-
>>>>        
>>>>
>>post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
>>    
>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>&
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: Bitflux

Posted by Robert Koberg <ro...@koberg.com>.
Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wechner [mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.org]
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 2:03 AM
> To: Lenya Users List
> 
> Steve Duncan wrote:
> 
> >Hi Michael
> >    Thanks for your hard work.   BXENG looks great for Netscape and
> Mozilla
> >users,
> >
> BXENG was created by Christian Stocker.   I just contributed the Atom
> example and wrote
> the interface on the server side (Lenya), which is mainly GET and PUT.
> 
> > will the commercial version of XOPUS be the primary option for
> >companies that have standardize on IE?
> >
> 
> yes, I guess so, although Lon Boonen mentioned once that they would also
> like to support
> Mozilla in the future, but I suggest that you ask them directly.

Well, we (liveSTORYBOARD.com) have a wysiwyg, XMLSchema validating editor
for IE only (uses MSXML SOM). Of course I am biased, so I think it is the
best out there :) All of these types (schema validating) of editors,
including ours, could be much better usability-wise -- it is a tough
balancing act.

It currently does not work with Lenya, however. Is there any documentation
that defines the hooks that Lenya needs for communicating with an editor? Is
it just PUT? I did not see anything after a quick glance through the docs.
If we connected our front-end with Lenya's back-end (something I definitely
want to do some day...), we would want to provide the entire client-side
app.

By the way, have you seen the new Flash MX 2004? I started trying to move
our client-side app into flash using their HTML and CSS implementation, but
their support for these things is not that good (terrible, actually) yet.
But, on the ActionScript side they have made some great advances (ECMA-262,
datatyping, DOM, streaming XML/RPC, external scripts) -- much more like java
now. 

Best,
-Rob

> 
> HTH
> 
> Michael
> 
> >
> >Thanks
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.org> wrote in message
> >news:3F6B7B84.8070807@wyona.org...
> >
> >
> >>Christian Kreutz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello!
> >>>
> >>>I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
> >>>default publication. It works in the computerworld
> >>>publication for editing the headlines.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the
> >>"computerworld"
> >>publication still works ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So it must have something to do with the default pub.
> >>>
> >>>It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
> >>>list others had the same problem.
> >>>
> >>>Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
> >>>to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
> >>>
> >>>1. simple.xsl
> >>>2. simple.xsd
> >>>and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
> >>>either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default
> >>publication is making use
> >>of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been
> >>upgraded re multilinguality.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
> >>>simple2xhtml.xsl ?
> >>>
> >>>Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
> >>>bitflux and the world of lenya.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new
> >>Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
> >>will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form
> >>Editor which you can try out
> >>within the "blog" publication.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-
> xml=/lenya/default/bitfl
> >>
> >>
> >u
> >
> >
> >>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-
> xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
> >>
> >>
> >&
> >
> >
> >>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-
> css=/lenya/default/bi
> >>
> >>
> >t
> >
> >
> >>flux/css/simple.css&url-
> post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
> >>
> >>
> >&
> >
> >
> >>>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.org>.
Steve Duncan wrote:

>Hi Michael
>    Thanks for your hard work.   BXENG looks great for Netscape and Mozilla
>users,
>
BXENG was created by Christian Stocker.   I just contributed the Atom 
example and wrote
the interface on the server side (Lenya), which is mainly GET and PUT.

> will the commercial version of XOPUS be the primary option for
>companies that have standardize on IE?
>

yes, I guess so, although Lon Boonen mentioned once that they would also 
like to support
Mozilla in the future, but I suggest that you ask them directly.

HTH

Michael

>
>Thanks
>Steve
>
>
>
>
>"Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.org> wrote in message
>news:3F6B7B84.8070807@wyona.org...
>  
>
>>Christian Kreutz wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hello!
>>>
>>>I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
>>>default publication. It works in the computerworld
>>>publication for editing the headlines.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the
>>"computerworld"
>>publication still works ...
>>
>>    
>>
>>>So it must have something to do with the default pub.
>>>
>>>It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
>>>list others had the same problem.
>>>
>>>Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
>>>to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
>>>
>>>1. simple.xsl
>>>2. simple.xsd
>>>and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
>>>either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default
>>publication is making use
>>of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been
>>upgraded re multilinguality.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
>>>simple2xhtml.xsl ?
>>>
>>>Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
>>>bitflux and the world of lenya.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new
>>Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
>>will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form
>>Editor which you can try out
>>within the "blog" publication.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>    
>>
>>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/default/bitfl
>>    
>>
>u
>  
>
>>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
>>    
>>
>&
>  
>
>>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bi
>>    
>>
>t
>  
>
>>flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
>>    
>>
>&
>  
>
>>>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Steve Duncan <sd...@ksg.harvard.edu>.
Hi Michael
    Thanks for your hard work.   BXENG looks great for Netscape and Mozilla
users, will the commercial version of XOPUS be the primary option for
companies that have standardize on IE?

Thanks
Steve




"Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.org> wrote in message
news:3F6B7B84.8070807@wyona.org...
> Christian Kreutz wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >
> >I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
> >default publication. It works in the computerworld
> >publication for editing the headlines.
> >
>
> what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the
> "computerworld"
> publication still works ...
>
> >So it must have something to do with the default pub.
> >
> >It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
> >list others had the same problem.
> >
> >Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
> >to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
> >
> >1. simple.xsl
> >2. simple.xsd
> >and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
> >either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
> >
> yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default
> publication is making use
> of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been
> upgraded re multilinguality.
>
> >
> >Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
> >simple2xhtml.xsl ?
> >
> >Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
> >bitflux and the world of lenya.
> >
>
> I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new
> Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
> will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form
> Editor which you can try out
> within the "blog" publication.
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
> >
>
>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/default/bitfl
u
>
>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
&
>
>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bi
t
>
>flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
&
> >url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
> >
> >
> >
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Re: AW: Bitflux

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.org>.
Christian Kreutz wrote:

<snip />

>>within the "blog" publication.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds good but I think the html form is a moderate alternative to
>bitflux or xopus. Even though bitflux and xopus are apart from
>the lenya development both editors give the first good impression
>from lenya. This convinces the clients or end-users often
>because the workflow management - as great as it looks - takes
>longer to understand.
>I am just saying this because you are discussing to remove both.
>One year ago when I found out about wyona I was first most impressed
>about xpous and secondary about the environment.
>

yeah, I believe and the perception is probably still quite the same. But 
I am very confident that it
will be changing soon.

>I guess in a greater community in the future compatibilty and other problems
>about the editors will be shared and solved anyway faster.
>

hopefully

Thanks

Michael

>
>Thanks Christian
>
>
>  
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>    
>>
>>>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/def
>>>      
>>>
>ault/bitflu
>  
>
>>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
>>    
>>
>&
>  
>
>>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bi
>>    
>>
>t
>  
>
>>flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
>>    
>>
>&
>  
>
>>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
>>
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AW: Bitflux

Posted by Christian Kreutz <sc...@gmx.de>.

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michael Wechner [mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.org]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. September 2003 23:56
> An: Lenya Users List
> Betreff: Re: Bitflux
>
>
> Christian Kreutz wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >
> >I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
> >default publication. It works in the computerworld
> >publication for editing the headlines.
> >
>
> what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the
> "computerworld"
> publication still works ...
>

I have to versions parallel working.


> >So it must have something to do with the default pub.
> >
> >It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
> >list others had the same problem.
> >
> >Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
> >to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
> >
> >1. simple.xsl
> >2. simple.xsd
> >and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
> >either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
> >
> yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default
> publication is making use
> of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been
> upgraded re multilinguality.
>
> >
> >Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
> >simple2xhtml.xsl ?
> >
> >Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
> >bitflux and the world of lenya.
> >
>
> I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new
> Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
> will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form
> Editor which you can try out
> within the "blog" publication.
>

Sounds good but I think the html form is a moderate alternative to
bitflux or xopus. Even though bitflux and xopus are apart from
the lenya development both editors give the first good impression
from lenya. This convinces the clients or end-users often
because the workflow management - as great as it looks - takes
longer to understand.
I am just saying this because you are discussing to remove both.
One year ago when I found out about wyona I was first most impressed
about xpous and secondary about the environment.
I guess in a greater community in the future compatibilty and other problems
about the editors will be shared and solved anyway faster.

Thanks Christian


> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
> >
> >http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/def
ault/bitflu
>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl
&
>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bi
t
>flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml
&
>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
>
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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.org>.
Christian Kreutz wrote:

>Hello!
>
>I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
>default publication. It works in the computerworld
>publication for editing the headlines.
>

what Lenya version are you using? I am actually surprised that the 
"computerworld"
publication still works ...

>So it must have something to do with the default pub.
>
>It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
>list others had the same problem.
>
>Is the reason why it is not working because bitflux tries
>to load files not exisiting in the default pub:
>
>1. simple.xsl
>2. simple.xsd
>and 3. it tries to load an index.xml which should be
>either index_de.xml or index_en.xml?
>
yes, multilinguality has been integrated into Lenya and the default 
publication is making use
of this feature, but the Bitflux Editor interfaces have never been 
upgraded re multilinguality.

>
>Do I have to change the files to simple-docment.xsd and
>simple2xhtml.xsl ?
>
>Sorry for the naive questions, I am still a beginner with
>bitflux and the world of lenya.
>

I suggest you just  stay tuned for another couple of weeks until the new 
Bitflux Editor (BXENG)
will be released. Until then you just might want to use the HTML Form 
Editor which you can try out
within the "blog" publication.

Thanks

Michael

>
>http://localhost:8080/lenya/bitflux/index.html?url-xml=/lenya/default/bitflu
>x/tutorial/index.xml&url-xslt=/lenya/default/bitflux/stylesheets/simple.xsl&
>url-xsd=/lenya/default/bitflux/schemas/simple.xsd&url-css=/lenya/default/bit
>flux/css/simple.css&url-post=/lenya/default/bitflux/save/tutorial/index.xml&
>url-back=/lenya/authoring/tutorial.html
>
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Re: Bitflux

Posted by Pete Bowman <Pe...@btopenworld.com>.
"Christian Kreutz" <sc...@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:PBEBKIMCBEKHMGLJCDKAMEIKCFAA.schreibchris@gmx.de...
> Hello!
>
> I try to figure out why bitflux is not working in the
> default publication. It works in the computerworld
> publication for editing the headlines.
> So it must have something to do with the default pub.
>
> It loads only 3 out of 6 files. As I have seen on the
> list others had the same problem.
>
<snip>

Hi,

I've been playing about with Lenya, as it perfect for my application. I had
the same problem you had.

I believe it is something to do with permissioning - the setup in the
default publication doesn't allow all the required files to be retrieved. I
solved the problem temporarily by just allowing "world" to do everything...
Try pointing your browser at each of the uris in the parameters passed to
Bitflux, and check the error log in your servlet container as you do so.

Pete.




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