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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> on 2006/06/25 10:09:00 UTC
Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Hi,
I am finishing up (and launching) a project using Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into the next phase of the
project.
I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the Dojo Toolkit. I am kind of
new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
is the significance of the integration (of Dojo in Tapestry) ?
Thanks.
RE: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
I believe, correct me if I am wrong, that Tapestry 4.x++ will always have a way to work with JavaScript off. We have run into clients (US Military) that turn off JavaScript. And we have one client that racheted IE up to level 3 security which disabled the iFrame. We have some Tapestry components that rely heavily on JavaScript and I think we may have to rewrite them. So, I think that at some "global" level, we need to have Standard Tapestry Components that do NOT depend on JavaScript. And someway to turn if off.
Thoughts?
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: KE Gan [mailto:khoon.ee.gan@gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 6/26/2006 10:27 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
So most likely Tapestry 4.1's core components will make use of Dojo already
:) ?
Actually, my initial question is to understand "how much" Dojo integration
into Tapestry will change the event-based web development as we know it
today (as in Tapestry 4.0.2) ? Since Dojo provides XMLHttpRequest; will this
usage somehow by-pass Tapestry altogether ? Or Tapestry 4.1 will come with
the framework that will let the Ajax calls be part of Tapestry event based
framework ?
Thanks.
On 6/26/06, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tapestry 4.1 initially comes with support for dojo only, but I have built
> a
> set of interfaces/hivemind services that will allow anyone to override the
> behaviour of the built-in toolkit (dojo), or provide their own toolkit
> integration.
>
> The relationship between tacos is that I did most of my initial tapestry
> contributions in the tacos library (along with Felix Sun/Andreas
> Andreaou/Leonardo ) . It isn't clear yet where each individual component
> should live, but Tapestry 4.1 will definitely be handling all of the
> infrastructure work as much as possible. It shouldn't be very hard for
> people to create tacos-like components once the release comes out. (ie
> much
> less work involved now)
>
> On 6/26/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I do not know the answer to your question.
> > More precisely, I am not sure whether tacos will be
> > incoporated into Tapestry 4.1 or
> > Tapestry 4.1 will have the infrasturcture
> > to use Ajax toolkit other than dojo.
> >
> > Shing
> >
> >
> > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Shing,
> > >
> > > I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The
> > > integration of Dojo into
> > > Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am
> > > I right ? Or do they
> > > play together somehow ?
> > >
> > > ~KEGan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you have not checked out the helloword
> > > > example in tacos wiki,
> > > > at
> > > > http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
> > > >
> > > > you might like take a look at that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am finishing up (and launching) a project
> > > using
> > > > > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > > > > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into
> > > the
> > > > > next phase of the
> > > > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the
> > > Dojo
> > > > > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > > > > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > > > > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > > > > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo
> > > in
> > > > > Tapestry) ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Home page :
> > > > http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.
>
>
Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com>.
So most likely Tapestry 4.1's core components will make use of Dojo already
:) ?
Actually, my initial question is to understand "how much" Dojo integration
into Tapestry will change the event-based web development as we know it
today (as in Tapestry 4.0.2) ? Since Dojo provides XMLHttpRequest; will this
usage somehow by-pass Tapestry altogether ? Or Tapestry 4.1 will come with
the framework that will let the Ajax calls be part of Tapestry event based
framework ?
Thanks.
On 6/26/06, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tapestry 4.1 initially comes with support for dojo only, but I have built
> a
> set of interfaces/hivemind services that will allow anyone to override the
> behaviour of the built-in toolkit (dojo), or provide their own toolkit
> integration.
>
> The relationship between tacos is that I did most of my initial tapestry
> contributions in the tacos library (along with Felix Sun/Andreas
> Andreaou/Leonardo ) . It isn't clear yet where each individual component
> should live, but Tapestry 4.1 will definitely be handling all of the
> infrastructure work as much as possible. It shouldn't be very hard for
> people to create tacos-like components once the release comes out. (ie
> much
> less work involved now)
>
> On 6/26/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I do not know the answer to your question.
> > More precisely, I am not sure whether tacos will be
> > incoporated into Tapestry 4.1 or
> > Tapestry 4.1 will have the infrasturcture
> > to use Ajax toolkit other than dojo.
> >
> > Shing
> >
> >
> > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Shing,
> > >
> > > I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The
> > > integration of Dojo into
> > > Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am
> > > I right ? Or do they
> > > play together somehow ?
> > >
> > > ~KEGan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you have not checked out the helloword
> > > > example in tacos wiki,
> > > > at
> > > > http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
> > > >
> > > > you might like take a look at that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am finishing up (and launching) a project
> > > using
> > > > > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > > > > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into
> > > the
> > > > > next phase of the
> > > > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the
> > > Dojo
> > > > > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > > > > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > > > > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > > > > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo
> > > in
> > > > > Tapestry) ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Home page :
> > > > http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > ___________________________________________________________
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> > > free your email address
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.
>
>
Re: Any idea how to default a value?WRONG PageBeginRenderListener
Posted by Gunna Satria <gu...@yahoo.com>.
ups...sorry wrong interpretation there..
Gunna
Gunna Satria <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi,
why don't you implement PageBeginRenderListener and set your value there.
cheers,
Gunna
Mark Stang wrote: I have a radio group:
[input] Accept the license agreement
[input] Reject the license agreement
This works fine. The user must select ACCEPT to move on. However, I need to be able to set the selected value to ACCEPT without user input. I would prefer to use a HIDDEN value defaulted to ACCEPT. However, I am not sure how to format it. What I need is for the page to send ACCEPT to ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense. I thought about creating component to do this and having it's default value be ACCEPT, but it seems a bit of overkill. I think it can be done with a HIDDEN value, but I am not sure of the Tapestry Syntax. The default value in ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense is REJECT and I don't want to change that.
Tapestry 3.03.
Thoughts?
thanks,
Mark
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Re: Any idea how to default a value?PageBeginRenderListener
Posted by Gunna Satria <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
why don't you implement PageBeginRenderListener and set your value there.
cheers,
Gunna
Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote: I have a radio group:
[input] Accept the license agreement
[input] Reject the license agreement
This works fine. The user must select ACCEPT to move on. However, I need to be able to set the selected value to ACCEPT without user input. I would prefer to use a HIDDEN value defaulted to ACCEPT. However, I am not sure how to format it. What I need is for the page to send ACCEPT to ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense. I thought about creating component to do this and having it's default value be ACCEPT, but it seems a bit of overkill. I think it can be done with a HIDDEN value, but I am not sure of the Tapestry Syntax. The default value in ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense is REJECT and I don't want to change that.
Tapestry 3.03.
Thoughts?
thanks,
Mark
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Any idea how to default a value?
Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
I have a radio group:
<span jwcid="@RadioGroup" selected="ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense">
<input type="radio" jwcid="@Radio" value="ognl:@com.pingidentity.fsm.state.impl.LicensingState@ACCEPT"/>Accept the license agreement<br>
<input type="radio" jwcid="@Radio" value="ognl:@com.pingidentity.fsm.state.impl.LicensingState@REJECT"/>Reject the license agreement
</span>
This works fine. The user must select ACCEPT to move on. However, I need to be able to set the selected value to ACCEPT without user input. I would prefer to use a HIDDEN value defaulted to ACCEPT. However, I am not sure how to format it. What I need is for the page to send ACCEPT to ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense. I thought about creating component to do this and having it's default value be ACCEPT, but it seems a bit of overkill. I think it can be done with a HIDDEN value, but I am not sure of the Tapestry Syntax. The default value in ognl:page.visit.currentState.acceptLicense is REJECT and I don't want to change that.
Tapestry 3.03.
Thoughts?
thanks,
Mark
Pages in Tapestry Libraries?
Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
Hi,
I have never tried this, but can you put pages in a Library or only components?
thanks,
Mark
Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Tapestry 4.1 initially comes with support for dojo only, but I have built a
set of interfaces/hivemind services that will allow anyone to override the
behaviour of the built-in toolkit (dojo), or provide their own toolkit
integration.
The relationship between tacos is that I did most of my initial tapestry
contributions in the tacos library (along with Felix Sun/Andreas
Andreaou/Leonardo ) . It isn't clear yet where each individual component
should live, but Tapestry 4.1 will definitely be handling all of the
infrastructure work as much as possible. It shouldn't be very hard for
people to create tacos-like components once the release comes out. (ie much
less work involved now)
On 6/26/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I do not know the answer to your question.
> More precisely, I am not sure whether tacos will be
> incoporated into Tapestry 4.1 or
> Tapestry 4.1 will have the infrasturcture
> to use Ajax toolkit other than dojo.
>
> Shing
>
>
> --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Shing,
> >
> > I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The
> > integration of Dojo into
> > Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am
> > I right ? Or do they
> > play together somehow ?
> >
> > ~KEGan
> >
> >
> > On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you have not checked out the helloword
> > > example in tacos wiki,
> > > at
> > > http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
> > >
> > > you might like take a look at that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shing
> > >
> > >
> > > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am finishing up (and launching) a project
> > using
> > > > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > > > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into
> > the
> > > > next phase of the
> > > > project.
> > > >
> > > > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the
> > Dojo
> > > > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > > > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > > > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > > > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo
> > in
> > > > Tapestry) ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Home page :
> > > http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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--
Jesse Kuhnert
Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.
Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com>.
I do not know the answer to your question.
More precisely, I am not sure whether tacos will be
incoporated into Tapestry 4.1 or
Tapestry 4.1 will have the infrasturcture
to use Ajax toolkit other than dojo.
Shing
--- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Shing,
>
> I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The
> integration of Dojo into
> Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am
> I right ? Or do they
> play together somehow ?
>
> ~KEGan
>
>
> On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you have not checked out the helloword
> > example in tacos wiki,
> > at
> > http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
> >
> > you might like take a look at that.
> >
> >
> > Shing
> >
> >
> > --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am finishing up (and launching) a project
> using
> > > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into
> the
> > > next phase of the
> > > project.
> > >
> > > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the
> Dojo
> > > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo
> in
> > > Tapestry) ?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> >
> > Home page :
> > http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Shing,
I have read about Tacos. From my understanding, The integration of Dojo into
Tapestry4.1 and Tacos are two different thing ... am I right ? Or do they
play together somehow ?
~KEGan
On 6/25/06, Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If you have not checked out the helloword
> example in tacos wiki,
> at
> http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
>
> you might like take a look at that.
>
>
> Shing
>
>
> --- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am finishing up (and launching) a project using
> > Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> > planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into the
> > next phase of the
> > project.
> >
> > I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the Dojo
> > Toolkit. I am kind of
> > new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> > Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> > is the significance of the integration (of Dojo in
> > Tapestry) ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> Home page :
> http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________
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Re: Tapestry and Dojo and Tapestry 4.1
Posted by Shing Hing Man <ma...@yahoo.com>.
If you have not checked out the helloword
example in tacos wiki,
at
http://tacoscomponents.jot.com/WikiHome
you might like take a look at that.
Shing
--- KE Gan <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am finishing up (and launching) a project using
> Tapestry 4.0.2 soon. I am
> planning to incorporate some Ajax goodness into the
> next phase of the
> project.
>
> I understand that Tapestry 4.1 incorporate the Dojo
> Toolkit. I am kind of
> new to Dojo. Anyone know any example on using
> Tapestry with Dojo ? and What
> is the significance of the integration (of Dojo in
> Tapestry) ?
>
> Thanks.
>
Home page :
http://uk.geocities.com/matmsh/index.html
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