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Posted to dev@metron.apache.org by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> on 2017/12/11 21:41:56 UTC

[DISCUSS] Community Meetings

I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Excellen Ahmed, that is just the kind of thing that I would think the
community would like to see.


On December 14, 2017 at 14:56:07, Ahmed Shah (ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
wrote:

Hello,


For the user meeting we (GCR) could volunteer demoing our dashboard (if
screen sharing is possible) and let everyone one know how we use Metron.


Our project is here:

https://github.com/LTW-GCR-CSOC/csoc-installation-scripts/


-Ahmed
_______________________________________________________________
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>


________________________________
From: Laurens Vets <la...@daemon.be>
Sent: December 14, 2017 11:24 AM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Cc: James Sirota
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings


Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
>
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings. I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
>
> Dev meetings
> - feedback on how things are going overall
> - discussions on specific technical problems
> - discussion of possible improvements
>
> User meetings
> - demos
> - user content ( how I’m using metron )
> - some unavoidable discussion on problems
> - some requirements gathering triage
>
> ALL
> - I will call
> - I will gather input for agenda
> - I will distribute the agenda
> - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
> - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
> - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
>
>
>
> How does that sound?
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org)
> wrote:
>
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>>
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>>
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
>>> make
>>> sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>>
>>> Just a friendly reminder...
>>> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
>>> out
>>> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
>>> gives
>>> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>>
>> decisions.
>>> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>> simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I do.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>>
>>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
>>>>> in
>>
>> the
>>>>> past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>> ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ahmed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>> Carleton University -
>>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
>>>>>> may
> be
>>>>>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
>>>>>> we
>>>>> spread
>>>>>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
>>>>>> whom
>>
>> have
>>>> a
>>>>>> lot on their plate already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>>
>> welcome
>>>>>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
>>>>>> can
> use
>>>> to
>>>>>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>> alternative,
>>>>>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>> - How are we going to host it
>>>>>> - When are we going to do it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ottO
>
> -------------------
> Thank you,
>
> James Sirota
> PMC- Apache Metron
> jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Ahmed Shah <Ah...@cmail.carleton.ca>.
Hello,


For the user meeting we (GCR) could volunteer demoing our dashboard (if screen sharing is possible) and let everyone one know how we use Metron.


Our project is here:

https://github.com/LTW-GCR-CSOC/csoc-installation-scripts/


-Ahmed
_______________________________________________________________
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>


________________________________
From: Laurens Vets <la...@daemon.be>
Sent: December 14, 2017 11:24 AM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Cc: James Sirota
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings


Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
>
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
>
> Dev meetings
>  - feedback on how things are going overall
>  - discussions on specific technical problems
>  - discussion of possible improvements
>
> User meetings
>  - demos
>  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
>  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
>  - some requirements gathering triage
>
> ALL
>  - I will call
>  - I will gather input for agenda
>  - I will distribute the agenda
>  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
>  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
>  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
>
>
>
> How does that sound?
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org)
> wrote:
>
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>>
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>>
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
>>> make
>>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>>
>>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
>>> out
>>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
>>> gives
>>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>>
>> decisions.
>>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>>
>>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
>>>>> in
>>
>> the
>>>>>  past.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>>  Carleton University -
>>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
>>>>>> may
> be
>>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>  spread
>>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
>>>>>> whom
>>
>> have
>>>>  a
>>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>>
>> welcome
>>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
>>>>>> can
> use
>>>>  to
>>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>>  alternative,
>>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ottO
>
> -------------------
> Thank you,
>
> James Sirota
> PMC- Apache Metron
> jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Kyle Richardson <ky...@gmail.com>.
+1 Thanks for organizing, Otto!

-Kyle

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Zeolla@GMail.com <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This sounds great Otto, thanks.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM Laurens Vets <la...@daemon.be> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sounds good to me :)
> >
> > On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> > > responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
> > >
> > > Dev meetings
> > >  - feedback on how things are going overall
> > >  - discussions on specific technical problems
> > >  - discussion of possible improvements
> > >
> > > User meetings
> > >  - demos
> > >  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
> > >  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
> > >  - some requirements gathering triage
> > >
> > > ALL
> > >  - I will call
> > >  - I will gather input for agenda
> > >  - I will distribute the agenda
> > >  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
> > >  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
> > >  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> > > decisions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How does that sound?
> > >
> > >
> > > On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com
> )
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > > On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> > > PMC
> > > members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> > > be a
> > > problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> > > after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> > > jump
> > > around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> > > explicitly
> > > clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> > > are
> > > not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> > > we
> > > want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> > > be in
> > > its own separate meeting.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > James
> > >
> > > 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
> > >> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
> > >>
> > >> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> > >> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
> > >> call
> > >> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
> > >> would
> > >> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
> > >>
> > >> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
> > >> had
> > >> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
> > >> is a
> > >> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
> > >> need
> > >> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
> > >>
> > >> Simon
> > >>
> > >>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
> > >>> make
> > >>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
> > >>>
> > >>>  Just a friendly reminder...
> > >>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
> > >>> out
> > >>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> > >>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
> > >>> gives
> > >>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
> > >>
> > >> decisions.
> > >>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
> > >>>
> > >>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> > >>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>  Yes, I do.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> > >>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  Simon
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> > >>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
> > >>>>> in
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>>>>  past.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Simon
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> > >>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> > >>>>>>  wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Hello,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
> > >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  -Ahmed
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> > >>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> > >>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> > >>>>>>  Carleton University -
> > >>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  ________________________________
> > >>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> > >>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
> > >>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
> > >>>>>> may
> > > be
> > >>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
> > >>>>>> we
> > >>>>>  spread
> > >>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
> > >>>>>> whom
> > >>
> > >> have
> > >>>>  a
> > >>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
> > >>
> > >> welcome
> > >>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
> > >>>>>> can
> > > use
> > >>>>  to
> > >>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
> > >>>>>> suitable
> > >>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> > >>>>  alternative,
> > >>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
> > >>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
> > >>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  Anything else?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  ottO
> > >
> > > -------------------
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > James Sirota
> > > PMC- Apache Metron
> > > jsirota AT apache DOT org
> >
> --
>
> Jon
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by "Zeolla@GMail.com" <ze...@gmail.com>.
This sounds great Otto, thanks.

Jon

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM Laurens Vets <la...@daemon.be> wrote:

>
> Sounds good to me :)
>
> On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> > responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
> >
> > Dev meetings
> >  - feedback on how things are going overall
> >  - discussions on specific technical problems
> >  - discussion of possible improvements
> >
> > User meetings
> >  - demos
> >  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
> >  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
> >  - some requirements gathering triage
> >
> > ALL
> >  - I will call
> >  - I will gather input for agenda
> >  - I will distribute the agenda
> >  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
> >  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
> >  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> > decisions
> >
> >
> >
> > How does that sound?
> >
> >
> > On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org)
> > wrote:
> >
> > I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> > PMC
> > members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> > be a
> > problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> > after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> > jump
> > around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> > explicitly
> > clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> > are
> > not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> > we
> > want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> > be in
> > its own separate meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
> >> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
> >>
> >> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> >> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >>
> >> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
> >> call
> >> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
> >> would
> >> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
> >>
> >> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
> >> had
> >> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
> >> is a
> >> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
> >> need
> >> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
> >>> make
> >>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
> >>>
> >>>  Just a friendly reminder...
> >>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
> >>> out
> >>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> >>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
> >>> gives
> >>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
> >>
> >> decisions.
> >>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
> >>>
> >>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> >>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Yes, I do.
> >>>>
> >>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> >>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Simon
> >>>>
> >>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> >>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
> >>>>> in
> >>
> >> the
> >>>>>  past.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> >>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  -Ahmed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> >>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> >>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> >>>>>>  Carleton University -
> >>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ________________________________
> >>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> >>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
> >>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We
> >>>>>> may
> > be
> >>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>  spread
> >>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of
> >>>>>> whom
> >>
> >> have
> >>>>  a
> >>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
> >>
> >> welcome
> >>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I
> >>>>>> can
> > use
> >>>>  to
> >>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
> >>>>>> suitable
> >>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> >>>>  alternative,
> >>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
> >>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
> >>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Anything else?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ottO
> >
> > -------------------
> > Thank you,
> >
> > James Sirota
> > PMC- Apache Metron
> > jsirota AT apache DOT org
>
-- 

Jon

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Laurens Vets <la...@daemon.be>.
Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
> 
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
> 
> Dev meetings
>  - feedback on how things are going overall
>  - discussions on specific technical problems
>  - discussion of possible improvements
> 
> User meetings
>  - demos
>  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
>  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
>  - some requirements gathering triage
> 
> ALL
>  - I will call
>  - I will gather input for agenda
>  - I will distribute the agenda
>  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
>  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
>  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
> 
> 
> 
> How does that sound?
> 
> 
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org) 
> wrote:
> 
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give 
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not 
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than 
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it 
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and 
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If 
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to 
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>> 
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>> 
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the 
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We 
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>> 
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve 
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which 
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We 
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and 
>>> make
>>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>> 
>>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent 
>>> out
>>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this 
>>> gives
>>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>> 
>> decisions.
>>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>> 
>>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>> 
>>>>  Simon
>>>> 
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most 
>>>>> in
>> 
>> the
>>>>>  past.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>>  Carleton University - 
>>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We 
>>>>>> may
> be
>>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>  spread
>>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of 
>>>>>> whom
>> 
>> have
>>>>  a
>>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>> 
>> welcome
>>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I 
>>>>>> can
> use
>>>>  to
>>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a 
>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>>  alternative,
>>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ottO
> 
> -------------------
> Thank you,
> 
> James Sirota
> PMC- Apache Metron
> jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Ok,

So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.

Dev meetings
 - feedback on how things are going overall
 - discussions on specific technical problems
 - discussion of possible improvements

User meetings
 - demos
 - user content ( how I’m using metron )
 - some unavoidable discussion on problems
 - some requirements gathering triage

ALL
 - I will call
 - I will gather input for agenda
 - I will distribute the agenda
 - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
 - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
 - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
decisions



How does that sound?


On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
wrote:

+1


On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org) wrote:

I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC
members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not be a
problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump
around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly
clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and are
not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If we
want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to be in
its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may
be
>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>>>  spread
>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
>
> have
>>>  a
>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>
> welcome
>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can
use
>>>  to
>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>  alternative,
>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ottO

-------------------
Thank you,

James Sirota
PMC- Apache Metron
jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
+1


On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org) wrote:

I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC
members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not be a
problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump
around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly
clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and are
not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If we
want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to be in
its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>

>>>>>
>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may
be
>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>>>  spread
>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
>
> have
>>>  a
>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>
> welcome
>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can
use
>>>  to
>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>  alternative,
>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ottO

-------------------
Thank you,

James Sirota
PMC- Apache Metron
jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by James Sirota <js...@apache.org>.
I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give PMC members rights to the room.  I think hosting these meetings should not be a problem.  I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes after the meeting.  It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than jump around in a recording.  As Simon mentioned, I would also make it explicitly clear that the meetings are dev meetings.  These are not user Q&A and are not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work.  If we want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to be in its own separate meeting.

Thanks,
James 

13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com>:
> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>
> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>
> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>
> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>
> Simon
>
>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>
>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>
> decisions.
>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>
>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>
>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
>
> the
>>>>  past.
>>>>
>>>>  Simon
>>>>
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>
>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>  Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>>>  spread
>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
>
> have
>>>  a
>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>
> welcome
>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>>>  to
>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>  alternative,
>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>>  ottO

------------------- 
Thank you,

James Sirota
PMC- Apache Metron
jsirota AT apache DOT org

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
I am ok with just notes and no recording.


On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call
to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would
definitely need someone to step up as note taker.

Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had
meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a
great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need
to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.

Simon

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
> sure that doesn't violate anything.
>
> Just a friendly reminder...
> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
decisions.
>
> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I do.
>>
>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>
>>>
>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in
the
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>> ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>
>>>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>
>>>> It is LGPL open source.
>>>>
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Ahmed
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>
>>>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>> spread
>>>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom
have
>> a
>>>> lot on their plate already.
>>>>
>>>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
welcome
>>>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>
>>>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>> to
>>>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>> alternative,
>>>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>
>>>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>> - How are we going to host it
>>>> - When are we going to do it
>>>>
>>>> Anything else?
>>>>
>>>> ottO
>>
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Simon Elliston Ball <si...@simonellistonball.com>.
Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the call to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We would definitely need someone to step up as note taker. 

Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve had meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which is a great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We need to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive. 

Simon

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
> sure that doesn't violate anything.
> 
> Just a friendly reminder...
> It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
> describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
> others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the decisions.
> 
> If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I do.
>> 
>> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>> 
>>> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
>>> past.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>> ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>> 
>>>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>> 
>>>> It is LGPL open source.
>>>> 
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Ahmed
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>> 
>>>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>>>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
>>> spread
>>>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have
>> a
>>>> lot on their plate already.
>>>> 
>>>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
>>>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>> 
>>>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
>> to
>>>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>>>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>> alternative,
>>>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>> 
>>>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>> - How are we going to host it
>>>> - When are we going to do it
>>>> 
>>>> Anything else?
>>>> 
>>>> ottO
>> 
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by larry mccay <lm...@apache.org>.
Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and make
sure that doesn't violate anything.

Just a friendly reminder...
It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent out
describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this gives
others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the decisions.

If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)


On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:

> Yes, I do.
>
> I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>
> Simon
>
> > On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> >
> >
> > On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> > simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >
> > Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
> > past.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> >>
> >>
> >> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> >>
> >> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> >>
> >> It is LGPL open source.
> >>
> >> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> >> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ahmed
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________________________
> >> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> >> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> >> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> >> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> >> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> >> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> >>
> >> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> >> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
> > spread
> >> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have
> a
> >> lot on their plate already.
> >>
> >> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> >> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> >>
> >> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use
> to
> >> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> >> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> alternative,
> >> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> >>
> >>
> >> So - from what I can see we need to:
> >>
> >> - Talk through who is going to do it
> >> - How are we going to host it
> >> - When are we going to do it
> >>
> >> Anything else?
> >>
> >> ottO
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Simon Elliston Ball <si...@simonellistonball.com>.
Yes, I do. 

I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> 
> Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
> past.
> 
> Simon
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>> 
>> 
>> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>> 
>> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>> 
>> It is LGPL open source.
>> 
>> https://bigbluebutton.org/
>> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>> 
>> 
>> -Ahmed
>> 
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>> To: dev@metron.apache.org
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>> 
>> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
>> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
> spread
>> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
>> lot on their plate already.
>> 
>> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
>> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>> 
>> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
>> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
>> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
>> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>> 
>> 
>> So - from what I can see we need to:
>> 
>> - Talk through who is going to do it
>> - How are we going to host it
>> - When are we going to do it
>> 
>> Anything else?
>> 
>> ottO


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?


On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:

Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the
past.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>
>
> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)

> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>
> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>
> It is LGPL open source.
>
> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>
>
> -Ahmed
>
> _______________________________________________________________
> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>
> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Simon Elliston Ball <si...@simonellistonball.com>.
Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most in the past.

Simon

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks!  I think I’d like something hosted though.
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> 
> I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> 
> It is LGPL open source.
> 
> https://bigbluebutton.org/
> https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> 
> 
> -Ahmed
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: dev@metron.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> 
> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
> 
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> 
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> 
> 
> So - from what I can see we need to:
> 
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
> 
> Anything else?
> 
> ottO


Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Thanks!  I think I’d like something hosted though.


On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
wrote:

Hello,

wrt "- How are we going to host it"...

I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.

It is LGPL open source.

https://bigbluebutton.org/
https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/


-Ahmed

_______________________________________________________________
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>


________________________________
From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Ahmed Shah <Ah...@cmail.carleton.ca>.
Hello,

wrt "- How are we going to host it"...

I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.

It is LGPL open source.

https://bigbluebutton.org/
https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/


-Ahmed

_______________________________________________________________
Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
Carleton University - cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>


________________________________
From: Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
To: dev@metron.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
lot on their plate already.

I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
anyone else who wants to help when they can.

The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.


So - from what I can see we need to:

- Talk through who is going to do it
- How are we going to host it
- When are we going to do it

Anything else?

ottO

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
This looks like it *might* work, but no recording, and 40mins?

https://zoom.us/pricing



On December 11, 2017 at 20:37:00, Zeolla@GMail.com (zeolla@gmail.com) wrote:

I think this is a great idea. Hangouts works well but last I checked has a
user # limitation. I don't have any other good suggestions, sorry, but I'm
in to attend.

Jon

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 16:42 Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we
spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO
>
-- 

Jon

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings

Posted by "Zeolla@GMail.com" <ze...@gmail.com>.
I think this is a great idea.  Hangouts works well but last I checked has a
user # limitation.  I don't have any other good suggestions, sorry, but I'm
in to attend.

Jon

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 16:42 Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.  We may be
> better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if we spread
> out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of whom have a
> lot on their plate already.
>
> I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would welcome
> anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>
> The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I can use to
> hold the meeting.  So I’ll need some recommendations for a suitable
> alternative.  I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly alternative,
> in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>
>
> So - from what I can see we need to:
>
> - Talk through who is going to do it
> - How are we going to host it
> - When are we going to do it
>
> Anything else?
>
> ottO
>
-- 

Jon