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Posted to marketing@cloudstack.apache.org by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net> on 2013/05/17 22:06:50 UTC
CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get published.
Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
Thoughts?
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
I've updated this slide a bit... using our wiki and other public posts:
http://www.slideshare.net/chipchilders/cloudstack-logo-slide
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Mark Hinkle <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
> they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
> Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
> CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
> reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
> obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
> observations.
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark R. Hinkle
> Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
> Citrix Systems
> e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
> Twitter: @mrhinkle
> Skype: mrhinkle
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>>all fair game.
>>
>>
>>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>>willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>>thing is mutually beneficial.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>Cc: Peder Ulander
>>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Ilya,
>>
>>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>>far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>>Apache CloudStack.
>>
>>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
>>clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>>Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>>win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>
>>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>>advice that would be helpful too.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Matt Mullins
>>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Agree with Joe.
>>>
>>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>departments work..
>>>
>>>
>>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>ratio
>>>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>>based solution.
>>>
>>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>some
>>>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
>>>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>>in
>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>published.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>
>>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>public, for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>jzb
>>>>--
>>>>Joe Brockmeier
>>>>jzb@zonker.net
>>>>Twitter: @jzb
>>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>
>>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Karen Vuong <ka...@citrix.com>.
Cool, looking forward to it!
Best regards,
Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:33 PM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Will do. Let's do WebMD next month.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Vuong [mailto:karen.vuong@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:31 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> Hi Ilya,
>
> I can help put a WebMD case study together. Currently, there are two
> case studies in the works for this month. The contact at TomTom is
> trying to get approval from PR to publish the case study since I added
> technical details to it. I'm still waiting to hear back on that. I'm
> collaborating with Scalr on an ACS and Scalr case study but only an
> outline has been put together so far. Feel free to email me off-list
> about putting a WebMD case study together. I'd be more than happy to help!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:23 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:19:51PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > I thought we did.
>
> I believe that Karen was volunteering her time to help pull them together.
> Had you worked with her on it?
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > > > Curious, what happened to case studies?
> > >
> > > People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> > > volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
> >
> >
> >
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Will do. Let's do WebMD next month.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Vuong [mailto:karen.vuong@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:31 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> Hi Ilya,
>
> I can help put a WebMD case study together. Currently, there are two case
> studies in the works for this month. The contact at TomTom is trying to get
> approval from PR to publish the case study since I added technical details to
> it. I'm still waiting to hear back on that. I'm collaborating with Scalr on an ACS
> and Scalr case study but only an outline has been put together so far. Feel
> free to email me off-list about putting a WebMD case study together. I'd be
> more than happy to help!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:23 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:19:51PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > I thought we did.
>
> I believe that Karen was volunteering her time to help pull them together.
> Had you worked with her on it?
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > > > Curious, what happened to case studies?
> > >
> > > People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> > > volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
> >
> >
> >
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
awesome work Karen, thanks for putting the effort into publishing these
case studies. Keep'em coming!
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Karen Vuong <ka...@citrix.com>wrote:
> Hi Ilya,
>
> I can help put a WebMD case study together. Currently, there are two case
> studies in the works for this month. The contact at TomTom is trying to get
> approval from PR to publish the case study since I added technical details
> to it. I'm still waiting to hear back on that. I'm collaborating with Scalr
> on an ACS and Scalr case study but only an outline has been put together so
> far. Feel free to email me off-list about putting a WebMD case study
> together. I'd be more than happy to help!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:23 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:19:51PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > I thought we did.
>
> I believe that Karen was volunteering her time to help pull them together.
> Had you worked with her on it?
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > > > Curious, what happened to case studies?
> > >
> > > People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> > > volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Karen Vuong <ka...@citrix.com>.
Hi Ilya,
I can help put a WebMD case study together. Currently, there are two case studies in the works for this month. The contact at TomTom is trying to get approval from PR to publish the case study since I added technical details to it. I'm still waiting to hear back on that. I'm collaborating with Scalr on an ACS and Scalr case study but only an outline has been put together so far. Feel free to email me off-list about putting a WebMD case study together. I'd be more than happy to help!
Best regards,
Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:23 PM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:19:51PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> I thought we did.
I believe that Karen was volunteering her time to help pull them together. Had you worked with her on it?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > > Curious, what happened to case studies?
> >
> > People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> > volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
>
>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:19:51PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> I thought we did.
I believe that Karen was volunteering her time to help pull them
together. Had you worked with her on it?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > > Curious, what happened to case studies?
> >
> > People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> > volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
>
>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
I thought we did.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > Curious, what happened to case studies?
>
> People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
> volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:15:20PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> Curious, what happened to case studies?
People need to volunteer to be the case studies. BTW - have you
volunteered for a WebMD one? ;-)
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Curious, what happened to case studies?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Hair [mailto:kelly.hair@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:53 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> Wondering if a community survey would be a good approach.
>
> Could kick off before or during CCC13…
>
> See OS example:
> http://www.slideshare.net/fullscreen/randybias/state-of-the-stack-april-
> 201
> 3/71
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> >I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly
> >stated they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like
> >Citrix Cloud Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a
> >pre-Apache version of CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for
> >anyone who wants to reference those things, though this is not an
> >official Citrix slide and obviously not an official CloudStack slide
> >either, just my personal observations.
> >
> > http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mark R. Hinkle
> >Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
> >Citrix Systems
> >e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
> >Twitter: @mrhinkle
> >Skype: mrhinkle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers.
> >>That's all fair game.
> >>
> >>
> >>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
> >>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who
> >>are willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies
> >>such a thing is mutually beneficial.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> >>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
> >>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>Cc: Peder Ulander
> >>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >>
> >>Ilya,
> >>
> >>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
> >>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
> >>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is
> >>how far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an
> >>ACS level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform
> >>powered by Apache CloudStack.
> >>
> >>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
> >>some clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good
> >>of both Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe
> >>there is a win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
> >>
> >>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have
> >>any advice that would be helpful too.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Matt Mullins
> >>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
> >>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
> >>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
> >>matt.mullins@citrix.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Agree with Joe.
> >>>
> >>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA
> >>>-> DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish
> >>>customer names with their consent. However, there's a number of
> >>>enterprises that will never allow this to occur. It's just they way
> >>>their legal departments work..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
> >>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is
> >>>user driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the
> market.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In
> >>>2011, around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012,
> >>>this number was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The
> >>>enterprise number & ratio will grow this year especially in mature
> >>>markets. This is not only because the SP market is saturated but
> >>>also because enterprises are investing more in building private
> >>>clouds. In developing markets, SPs building clouds are mostly focused
> >>>on either a CloudStack or OpenStack based solution.
> >>>
> >>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide
> >>>that lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to
> >>>defer to some colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of
> >>>these names. A slide presented to a prospect is very different than
> >>>publicly posting :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>Kelly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> >>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I
> >>>>>continuously learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform
> >>>>>customers that are huge in size - but it hurts our marketing
> >>>>>strategy as names don't get published.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal
> >>>>> blogs based on public information (like job descriptions posted
> online).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their
> >>>>name published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out
> >>>>there without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
> >>>>
> >>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing
> >>>>to talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just
> >>>>don't want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want
> >>>>to be public, for whatever reason.
> >>>>
> >>>>Best,
> >>>>
> >>>>jzb
> >>>>--
> >>>>Joe Brockmeier
> >>>>jzb@zonker.net
> >>>>Twitter: @jzb
> >>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >>>
> >>
> >
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 02:13 PM, Giles Sirett wrote:
> All agreed chip
> I would also like to give people the chance to repsond confidentially ,
> so we can also record users who don't necessarily want to Talk about
> their deployment
> I'm away this week, if everyone's OK for me to do so, leave it with me
> and I'll get something together early next week. I'll also do some emails
> & comms. To ask people to participate ....hope that we can then push
> those out via the community
Why don't we start a new thread for survey questions now, so everyone
can brainstorm on questions?
How are we thinking of conducting the survey? I want to be sure we're
not collecting any user data aside from poll responses.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 07:13:00PM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote:
> All agreed chip
> I would also like to give people the chance to repsond confidentially , so we can also record users who don't necessarily want to Talk about their deployment
> I'm away this week, if everyone's OK for me to do so, leave it with me and I'll get something together early next week. I'll also do some emails & comms. To ask people to participate ....hope that we can then push those out via the community
Yes - IMO anonymous is critical.
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
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> Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com<ma...@shapeblue.com>
>
> On 22 May 2013, at 12:01, "Chip Childers" <ch...@sungard.com>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Giles Sirett
> <gi...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
> Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
>
> I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
>
> Go for it Giles. I'd actually *love* to be able to use results from
> this in the opening talk for the conference.
>
> The one thing I'd request is that we keep it fairly simple. I'd guess
> that we'd want global coverage, so the text of the questions should be
> easily translated by Google Translate for those that don't speak any
> English (we have lots of users speaking non-english).
>
> -chip
>
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
All agreed chip
I would also like to give people the chance to repsond confidentially , so we can also record users who don't necessarily want to Talk about their deployment
I'm away this week, if everyone's OK for me to do so, leave it with me and I'll get something together early next week. I'll also do some emails & comms. To ask people to participate ....hope that we can then push those out via the community
Kind Regards
Giles
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On 22 May 2013, at 12:01, "Chip Childers" <ch...@sungard.com>> wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Giles Sirett
<gi...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
Go for it Giles. I'd actually *love* to be able to use results from
this in the opening talk for the conference.
The one thing I'd request is that we keep it fairly simple. I'd guess
that we'd want global coverage, so the text of the questions should be
easily translated by Google Translate for those that don't speak any
English (we have lots of users speaking non-english).
-chip
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Giles Sirett
<gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
>
> I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
Go for it Giles. I'd actually *love* to be able to use results from
this in the opening talk for the conference.
The one thing I'd request is that we keep it fairly simple. I'd guess
that we'd want global coverage, so the text of the questions should be
easily translated by Google Translate for those that don't speak any
English (we have lots of users speaking non-english).
-chip
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Chip
In my calendar for this afternoon
Kind Regards
Giles
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On 29 May 2013, at 04:40, "Chip Childers" <ch...@sungard.com>> wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 06:56:39PM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote:
Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
Kind Regards
Giles
Hey Giles,
Like I said, I think it would be great to be able to use data from a
survey *during* CCC. That might not be a reality, but I'd love it if it
could be.
Have you had an opportunity to put some thoughts together? If not, no
worries. I can try to do it on Thursday / Friday of this week.
-chip
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 06:56:39PM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote:
> Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
>
> I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
Hey Giles,
Like I said, I think it would be great to be able to use data from a
survey *during* CCC. That might not be a reality, but I'd love it if it
could be.
Have you had an opportunity to put some thoughts together? If not, no
worries. I can try to do it on Thursday / Friday of this week.
-chip
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Kelly , I was thinking exactly the same
I'm happy to spend some time thinking about how best to put something like this together
Kind Regards
Giles
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On 22 May 2013, at 11:53, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Wondering if a community survey would be a good approach.
Could kick off before or during CCC13…
See OS example:
http://www.slideshare.net/fullscreen/randybias/state-of-the-stack-april-201
3/71
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com>> wrote:
I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
observations.
http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
Regards,
Mark R. Hinkle
Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
Citrix Systems
e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
Twitter: @mrhinkle
Skype: mrhinkle
On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
all fair game.
Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net>> wrote:
Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
thing is mutually beneficial.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: Peder Ulander
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Agree with Joe.
As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
departments work..
While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
ratio
will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
based solution.
Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
some
colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
slide
presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
Best,
Kelly
On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net>> wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
in
size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
published.
Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
Thoughts?
So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
public, for whatever reason.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net<ma...@zonker.net>
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
I sat on panel at CCC 2012 with a Disney representative (sorry forgot his name) who was sharing their CloudStack experiences, so they are definitely using it
Regards
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CTO / Cloud Architect
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On 29 May 2013, at 19:21, "Chiradeep Vittal" <Ch...@citrix.com>> wrote:
I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
http://s.apache.org/CW4
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com>> wrote:
I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
observations.
http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
Regards,
Mark R. Hinkle
Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
Citrix Systems
e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
Twitter: @mrhinkle
Skype: mrhinkle
On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
all fair game.
Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net>> wrote:
Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
thing is mutually beneficial.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: Peder Ulander
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Agree with Joe.
As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
departments work..
While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
ratio
will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
based solution.
Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
some
colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
slide
presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
Best,
Kelly
On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net>> wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
in
size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
published.
Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
Thoughts?
So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
public, for whatever reason.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net<ma...@zonker.net>
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Why not create survey on cloudstack.org and share with marketing list?
-------- Original message --------
From: Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>
Date:
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
I didnt see the Citrix logo... I'm not sure how public we are about our
cloudstack use though :)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Chip Childers
<ch...@sungard.com>wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
> > I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
> > http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
I didnt see the Citrix logo... I'm not sure how public we are about our
cloudstack use though :)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Chip Childers
<ch...@sungard.com>wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
> > I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
> > http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
There are many parts to the Mouse.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Mathias Mullins
<ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Disney is actually a CCP customer, Powered by ACS of courseŠ :-)
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 5/29/13 4:53 PM, "Kelcey Jamison Damage" <ke...@bbits.ca> wrote:
>
>>My understanding is that Disney Online Studios Inc(Club Penguin), which
>>is near me in Kelowna, is using ACS. Not sure about Disney Prime.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Giles Sirett" <gi...@shapeblue.com>
>>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:48:59 PM
>>Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what
>>a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his
>>organisation
>>He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be
>>difficult because of this
>>
>>I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
>>
>>"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
>>
>>
>>
>>Kind Regards
>>Giles
>>
>>D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
>>Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
>>Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
>>To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public
>>about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had
>>Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to
>>not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was
>>the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of
>>courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
>>
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>>>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>>>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>>>
>>> Adding now ;-)
>>>
>>> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
>>> with a larger story I use.
>>
>>
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>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net>.
I know some of the guys in the Burbank office and they're using it in the SoCal area too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelcey Jamison Damage [mailto:kelcey@bbits.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:54 PM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
My understanding is that Disney Online Studios Inc(Club Penguin), which is near me in Kelowna, is using ACS. Not sure about Disney Prime.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Sirett" <gi...@shapeblue.com>
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:48:59 PM
Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his organisation
He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be difficult because of this
I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
Kind Regards
Giles
D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
Mark
On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Mathias Mullins <ma...@citrix.com>.
Disney is actually a CCP customer, Powered by ACS of courseŠ :-)
Matt
On 5/29/13 4:53 PM, "Kelcey Jamison Damage" <ke...@bbits.ca> wrote:
>My understanding is that Disney Online Studios Inc(Club Penguin), which
>is near me in Kelowna, is using ACS. Not sure about Disney Prime.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Giles Sirett" <gi...@shapeblue.com>
>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:48:59 PM
>Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
>Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what
>a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his
>organisation
>He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be
>difficult because of this
>
>I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
>
>"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
>
>
>
>Kind Regards
>Giles
>
>D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
>Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
>Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
>To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
>Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public
>about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had
>Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to
>not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was
>the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of
>courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>>
>> Adding now ;-)
>>
>> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
>> with a larger story I use.
>
>
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelcey Jamison Damage <ke...@bbits.ca>.
My understanding is that Disney Online Studios Inc(Club Penguin), which is near me in Kelowna, is using ACS. Not sure about Disney Prime.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Sirett" <gi...@shapeblue.com>
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:48:59 PM
Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his organisation
He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be difficult because of this
I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
Kind Regards
Giles
D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
Mark
On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelcey Jamison Damage <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I lol'd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Sirett" <gi...@shapeblue.com>
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:48:59 PM
Subject: RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his organisation
He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be difficult because of this
I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
Kind Regards
Giles
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Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
Mark
On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
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RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Ditto Marks comments- I bumped into Pete last week and he explained what a nightmare he has doing any form of marketing/PR/speaking out of his organisation
He said he would *like* to come to collab and speak but that it may be difficult because of this
I ran my new tag line past him. He wasn't keen
"Apache Cloudstack. To infinity and beyond"
Kind Regards
Giles
D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:Mark.Hinkle@citrix.com]
Sent: 29 May 2013 21:42
To: <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
Mark
On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 08:41:39PM +0000, Mark Hinkle wrote:
> Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
>
Fair, thanks Mark.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
> >> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
> >> http://s.apache.org/CW4
> >
> > Adding now ;-)
> >
> > BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> > with a larger story I use.
>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Mark Hinkle <Ma...@citrix.com>.
Disney didn't make an announcement but their IT ops folks were public about using CloudStack after working for a number of vendors that had Disney as a customer be forewarned someday you'll likely get a request to not use their logo...You may want to touch base with Pete Lopez who was the speaker at former CloudStack events before you use it..out of courtesy so he isn't asked to go completely silent by his management.
Mark
On May 29, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
>> http://s.apache.org/CW4
>
> Adding now ;-)
>
> BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
> with a larger story I use.
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
> I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
> http://s.apache.org/CW4
Adding now ;-)
BTW, the point of the slide was to *over do* the logos... it goes best
with a larger story I use.
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Really good example
I listened to his talk at synergy.
Yes, Disney are a CCP customer but his deck talked of cloudSTACK
that sort of demonstrates the point around CCP
Kind Regards
Giles
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Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com<ma...@shapeblue.com>
On 29 May 2013, at 18:21, "Chiradeep Vittal" <Ch...@citrix.com>> wrote:
I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
http://s.apache.org/CW4
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com>> wrote:
I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
observations.
http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
Regards,
Mark R. Hinkle
Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
Citrix Systems
e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
Twitter: @mrhinkle
Skype: mrhinkle
On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
all fair game.
Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net>> wrote:
Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
thing is mutually beneficial.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: Peder Ulander
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com<ma...@citrix.com>
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com>> wrote:
Agree with Joe.
As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
departments work..
While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
ratio
will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
based solution.
Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
some
colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
slide
presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
Best,
Kelly
On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net>> wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
in
size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
published.
Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
Thoughts?
So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
public, for whatever reason.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net<ma...@zonker.net>
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com>.
Wondering if a community survey would be a good approach.
Could kick off before or during CCC13…
See OS example:
http://www.slideshare.net/fullscreen/randybias/state-of-the-stack-april-201
3/71
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
>they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
>Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
>CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
>reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
>obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
>observations.
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark R. Hinkle
>Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
>Citrix Systems
>e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
>Twitter: @mrhinkle
>Skype: mrhinkle
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>>all fair game.
>>
>>
>>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>>willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>>thing is mutually beneficial.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>Cc: Peder Ulander
>>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Ilya,
>>
>>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>>far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>>Apache CloudStack.
>>
>>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
>>some
>>clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>>Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>>win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>
>>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>>advice that would be helpful too.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Matt Mullins
>>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Agree with Joe.
>>>
>>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>departments work..
>>>
>>>
>>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>ratio
>>>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>>based solution.
>>>
>>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>some
>>>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
>>>slide
>>>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>>in
>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>published.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>
>>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>public, for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>jzb
>>>>--
>>>>Joe Brockmeier
>>>>jzb@zonker.net
>>>>Twitter: @jzb
>>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>
>>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com>.
AH - ok. Thanks for the clarification Sebastien!
On 5/21/13 1:18 AM, "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>CERN is like any large organizations, they have many IT groups. Their
>central IT uses openstack and thats what u see in the news. Other groups
>withon cern and associated with cern could be using cloudstack.
>
>The cloudstack use case i reported was from the CERN VM group an r&d
>group, not the central IT.
>
>-Sebastien
>
>On 21 May 2013, at 02:24, Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, does Cern still use CloudStack? I saw some recent blog entries on
>> the Net about how they use OpenStack…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly
>>>stated
>>> they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix
>>>Cloud
>>> Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version
>>>of
>>> CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
>>> reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
>>> obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
>>> observations.
>>>
>>> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark R. Hinkle
>>> Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
>>> Citrix Systems
>>> e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
>>> Twitter: @mrhinkle
>>> Skype: mrhinkle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers.
>>>>That's
>>>> all fair game.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>>> about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who
>>>>are
>>>> willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies
>>>>such a
>>>> thing is mutually beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Peder Ulander
>>>> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>>>
>>>> Ilya,
>>>>
>>>> I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>>> list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>>> marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is
>>>>how
>>>> far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>>> level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform
>>>>powered by
>>>> Apache CloudStack.
>>>>
>>>> I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
>>>> some
>>>> clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of
>>>>both
>>>> Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there
>>>>is a
>>>> win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>>>
>>>> Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have
>>>>any
>>>> advice that would be helpful too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Matt Mullins
>>>> CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>>> Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>>> +1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>>> matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agree with Joe.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US
>>>>>(PA ->
>>>>> DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish
>>>>>customer
>>>>> names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises
>>>>>that
>>>>> will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>>> departments work..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>>> CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is
>>>>>user
>>>>> driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the
>>>>>market.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In
>>>>>2011,
>>>>> around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this
>>>>>number
>>>>> was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>>> ratio
>>>>> will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>>> because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>>> investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>>> building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or
>>>>>OpenStack
>>>>> based solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide
>>>>>that
>>>>> lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>>> some
>>>>> colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
>>>>> slide
>>>>> presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I
>>>>>>>continuously
>>>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are
>>>>>>>huge
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>>> published.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal
>>>>>>>blogs
>>>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their
>>>>>>name
>>>>>> published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>>> without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing
>>>>>>to
>>>>>> talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>> want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>>> public, for whatever reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jzb
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
CERN is like any large organizations, they have many IT groups. Their central IT uses openstack and thats what u see in the news. Other groups withon cern and associated with cern could be using cloudstack.
The cloudstack use case i reported was from the CERN VM group an r&d group, not the central IT.
-Sebastien
On 21 May 2013, at 02:24, Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
> BTW, does Cern still use CloudStack? I saw some recent blog entries on
> the Net about how they use OpenStack…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
>> they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
>> Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
>> CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
>> reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
>> obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
>> observations.
>>
>> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark R. Hinkle
>> Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
>> Citrix Systems
>> e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
>> Twitter: @mrhinkle
>> Skype: mrhinkle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>>> all fair game.
>>>
>>>
>>> Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>> about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>>> willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>>> thing is mutually beneficial.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Cc: Peder Ulander
>>> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>>
>>> Ilya,
>>>
>>> I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>> list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>> marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>>> far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>> level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>>> Apache CloudStack.
>>>
>>> I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
>>> some
>>> clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>>> Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>>> win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>>
>>> Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>>> advice that would be helpful too.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Matt Mullins
>>> CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>> Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>> +1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>> matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree with Joe.
>>>>
>>>> As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>>> DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>>> names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>>> will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>> departments work..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>> CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>>> driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>>> around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>>> was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>> ratio
>>>> will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>> because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>> investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>> building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>>> based solution.
>>>>
>>>> Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>>> lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>> some
>>>> colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
>>>> slide
>>>> presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>> published.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>>> published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>> without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>>> talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>>> want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>> public, for whatever reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> jzb
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com>.
BTW, does Cern still use CloudStack? I saw some recent blog entries on
the Net about how they use OpenStack…
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
>they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
>Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
>CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
>reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
>obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
>observations.
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark R. Hinkle
>Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
>Citrix Systems
>e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
>Twitter: @mrhinkle
>Skype: mrhinkle
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>>all fair game.
>>
>>
>>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>>willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>>thing is mutually beneficial.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>Cc: Peder Ulander
>>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Ilya,
>>
>>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>>far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>>Apache CloudStack.
>>
>>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
>>some
>>clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>>Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>>win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>
>>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>>advice that would be helpful too.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Matt Mullins
>>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Agree with Joe.
>>>
>>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>departments work..
>>>
>>>
>>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>ratio
>>>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>>based solution.
>>>
>>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>some
>>>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
>>>slide
>>>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>>in
>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>published.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>
>>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>public, for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>jzb
>>>>--
>>>>Joe Brockmeier
>>>>jzb@zonker.net
>>>>Twitter: @jzb
>>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>
>>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chiradeep Vittal <Ch...@citrix.com>.
I believe Disney announced that they use Citrix CloudPlatform
http://s.apache.org/CW4
On 5/20/13 3:31 PM, "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com> wrote:
>I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
>they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
>Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
>CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
>reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
>obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
>observations.
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark R. Hinkle
>Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
>Citrix Systems
>e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
>Twitter: @mrhinkle
>Skype: mrhinkle
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>>all fair game.
>>
>>
>>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>>willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>>thing is mutually beneficial.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>Cc: Peder Ulander
>>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>>
>>Ilya,
>>
>>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>>far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>>level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>>Apache CloudStack.
>>
>>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with
>>some
>>clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>>Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>>win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>>
>>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>>advice that would be helpful too.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Matt Mullins
>>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>>matt.mullins@citrix.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Agree with Joe.
>>>
>>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>>departments work..
>>>
>>>
>>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>>ratio
>>>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>>based solution.
>>>
>>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>>some
>>>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A
>>>slide
>>>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>>in
>>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>>published.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>>
>>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>>public, for whatever reason.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>jzb
>>>>--
>>>>Joe Brockmeier
>>>>jzb@zonker.net
>>>>Twitter: @jzb
>>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>
>>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Mark Hinkle <Ma...@citrix.com>.
I compiled a "NASCAR" slide with the companies that have publicly stated
they are using CloudStack or a CloudStack based product like Citrix Cloud
Platform (Keep in mind many users are still using a pre-Apache version of
CloudStack too). I uploaded it to Slideshare for anyone who wants to
reference those things, though this is not an official Citrix slide and
obviously not an official CloudStack slide either, just my personal
observations.
http://www.slideshare.net/socializedsoftware/cloudstack-users-21545745
Regards,
Mark R. Hinkle
Senior Director, Open Source Solutions
Citrix Systems
e: mark.hinkle@citrix.com
Twitter: @mrhinkle
Skype: mrhinkle
On 5/20/13 1:01 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's
>all fair game.
>
>
>Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
>
>
>Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
>about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
>willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
>thing is mutually beneficial.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>Cc: Peder Ulander
>Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
>Ilya,
>
>I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
>list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
>marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
>far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
>level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
>Apache CloudStack.
>
>I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
>clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
>Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
>win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>
>Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
>advice that would be helpful too.
>
>Thanks
>Matt Mullins
>CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
>Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
>+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
>matt.mullins@citrix.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>>Agree with Joe.
>>
>>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>>departments work..
>>
>>
>>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>>
>>
>>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number &
>>ratio
>>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>>based solution.
>>
>>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to
>>some
>>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
>>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>>
>>
>>Best,
>>Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge
>>>>in
>>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>>published.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>>
>>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>>public, for whatever reason.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>jzb
>>>--
>>>Joe Brockmeier
>>>jzb@zonker.net
>>>Twitter: @jzb
>>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com>.
Yes, there are some public Citrix customer use cases/white papers. That's all fair game.
Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a thing is mutually beneficial.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Peder Ulander
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>Agree with Joe.
>
>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>departments work..
>
>
>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>
>
>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number & ratio
>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>based solution.
>
>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to some
>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>
>
>Best,
>Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>published.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>
>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>public, for whatever reason.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>jzb
>>--
>>Joe Brockmeier
>>jzb@zonker.net
>>Twitter: @jzb
>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
My thinking is that 'if' it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to
operate a cloudstack cloud and millions customizing and running a
competing IaaS, then why would I want 'the competition' to also take
advantage of that? I'd want them hemorrhaging, trying to get
said-competing-IaaS up and running. :) Maybe thats just the ruthless
competitor in me.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial. Some
> > companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and guard that
> > info religiously.
>
> Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's an
> awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like there's a
> limited supply of CloudStack to go around.
>
> The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about deployments
> is that they keep other companies/recruiters from knocking at their door
> for their CloudStack-proficient employees.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
it could be inaccurate as well, just because I have used cloudstack...
doesnt mean I manage it for my employer. So LinkedIn is dubious at best, as
a source.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net> wrote:
> On private blog?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ahmad Emneina [mailto:aemneina@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:39 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > I feel thats 'wrong'.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Employees use sites like linkedin and its easy to figure out what
> > > company X uses just by scanning what this or that person did/does.
> > > Also, search thru CS mailing lists of all user domains can help you
> gather
> > that info.
> > >
> > > It all goes back to public information. While technically - you cannot
> > > say that company X is using CS officially on ASF/Wiki or elsewhere, on
> > > private blogs, you can scan the web for all the public info and draw
> > > your conclusion.
> > >
> > > I guess the point I'm trying to make, strictly by using public
> > > sources, one can easily generate a list of companies that use CS but
> > > never publicize it. Would it be wrong to create one and say below is
> > > the list of "unconfirmed CS users".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:47 PM
> > > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > > > > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial.
> > > > > Some companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and
> > > > > guard that info religiously.
> > > >
> > > > Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> > > > certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's
> > > > an awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like
> > > > there's a
> > > limited
> > > > supply of CloudStack to go around.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about
> > > > deployments is that they keep other companies/recruiters from
> > > > knocking at their door
> > > for
> > > > their CloudStack-proficient employees.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > jzb
> > > > --
> > > > Joe Brockmeier
> > > > jzb@zonker.net
> > > > Twitter: @jzb
> > > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
corporate users should engage their marketing departments/legal teams to
solicit them for the correct company sanctioned verbiage. silent users not
wanting their employers blessing/intervention should post blogs about the
cool things using cloudstack enables them to do. Users should actively
contribute, like WebMD does so well, we shouldnt proactively surface them.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net> wrote:
> Pierre,
>
> We (WebMD) are doing just that in NYC at the moment.
>
> I guess a better question would be, how can we get the silent users to
> speak up?
>
> I'd propose to establish a CloudStack user consortium where users can
> elaborate and perhaps draw more of the silent users to open up.
>
> Thoughts?
> -ilya
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pierre-Luc Bisaillon [mailto:pbisaillon@cloudops.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:33 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > Can we go back to the original intention of this post? I don't think
> doing
> > detective work is productive, nor is posting customers without their
> consent,
> > but I do think we need a strong voice and place for customers to
> volunteer
> > their experience and to post proper and approved case studies.
> >
> > How do we get more visibility of the success stories?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > PL
> >
> > --
> > Pierre-Luc Bisaillon
> > VP stratégie de produits / VP Product Strategy pbisaillon@cloudops.com[c]
> > (438) 989-3121 [twitter] @pierreluc09 [www] about.me/pierrelucbisaillon
> > --
> > CloudOps
> > 420 rue Guy, Montréal QC H3J 1S6
> > www.cloudops.com
> > [twitter] @CloudOps_
> >
> > Le 2013-05-20 à 12:04, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> a écrit :
> >
> > > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 01:40 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> > >> On private blog?
> > >
> > > There's really no such thing as a "private" blog, unless you mean one
> > > that's behind a firewall somewhere. Also, if it's private and not
> > > promoted, what value is it to do the research?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > jzb
> > > --
> > > Joe Brockmeier
> > > jzb@zonker.net
> > > Twitter: @jzb
> > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Pierre,
We (WebMD) are doing just that in NYC at the moment.
I guess a better question would be, how can we get the silent users to speak up?
I'd propose to establish a CloudStack user consortium where users can elaborate and perhaps draw more of the silent users to open up.
Thoughts?
-ilya
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre-Luc Bisaillon [mailto:pbisaillon@cloudops.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:33 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> Team,
>
> Can we go back to the original intention of this post? I don't think doing
> detective work is productive, nor is posting customers without their consent,
> but I do think we need a strong voice and place for customers to volunteer
> their experience and to post proper and approved case studies.
>
> How do we get more visibility of the success stories?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PL
>
> --
> Pierre-Luc Bisaillon
> VP stratégie de produits / VP Product Strategy pbisaillon@cloudops.com [c]
> (438) 989-3121 [twitter] @pierreluc09 [www] about.me/pierrelucbisaillon
> --
> CloudOps
> 420 rue Guy, Montréal QC H3J 1S6
> www.cloudops.com
> [twitter] @CloudOps_
>
> Le 2013-05-20 à 12:04, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> a écrit :
>
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 01:40 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> >> On private blog?
> >
> > There's really no such thing as a "private" blog, unless you mean one
> > that's behind a firewall somewhere. Also, if it's private and not
> > promoted, what value is it to do the research?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Pierre-Luc Bisaillon <pb...@cloudops.com>.
Team,
Can we go back to the original intention of this post? I don't think
doing detective work is productive, nor is posting customers without
their consent, but I do think we need a strong voice and place for
customers to volunteer their experience and to post proper and
approved case studies.
How do we get more visibility of the success stories?
Thanks,
PL
--
Pierre-Luc Bisaillon
VP stratégie de produits / VP Product Strategy
pbisaillon@cloudops.com
[c] (438) 989-3121
[twitter] @pierreluc09
[www] about.me/pierrelucbisaillon
--
CloudOps
420 rue Guy, Montréal QC H3J 1S6
www.cloudops.com
[twitter] @CloudOps_
Le 2013-05-20 à 12:04, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> a écrit :
> On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 01:40 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>> On private blog?
>
> There's really no such thing as a "private" blog, unless you mean one
> that's behind a firewall somewhere. Also, if it's private and not
> promoted, what value is it to do the research?
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 01:40 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> On private blog?
There's really no such thing as a "private" blog, unless you mean one
that's behind a firewall somewhere. Also, if it's private and not
promoted, what value is it to do the research?
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
On private blog?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ahmad Emneina [mailto:aemneina@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:39 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> I feel thats 'wrong'.
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Employees use sites like linkedin and its easy to figure out what
> > company X uses just by scanning what this or that person did/does.
> > Also, search thru CS mailing lists of all user domains can help you gather
> that info.
> >
> > It all goes back to public information. While technically - you cannot
> > say that company X is using CS officially on ASF/Wiki or elsewhere, on
> > private blogs, you can scan the web for all the public info and draw
> > your conclusion.
> >
> > I guess the point I'm trying to make, strictly by using public
> > sources, one can easily generate a list of companies that use CS but
> > never publicize it. Would it be wrong to create one and say below is
> > the list of "unconfirmed CS users".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:47 PM
> > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > > > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial.
> > > > Some companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and
> > > > guard that info religiously.
> > >
> > > Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> > > certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's
> > > an awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like
> > > there's a
> > limited
> > > supply of CloudStack to go around.
> > >
> > > The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about
> > > deployments is that they keep other companies/recruiters from
> > > knocking at their door
> > for
> > > their CloudStack-proficient employees.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > jzb
> > > --
> > > Joe Brockmeier
> > > jzb@zonker.net
> > > Twitter: @jzb
> > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >
> >
> >
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
I feel thats 'wrong'.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net> wrote:
> Employees use sites like linkedin and its easy to figure out what company
> X uses just by scanning what this or that person did/does. Also, search
> thru CS mailing lists of all user domains can help you gather that info.
>
> It all goes back to public information. While technically - you cannot say
> that company X is using CS officially on ASF/Wiki or elsewhere, on private
> blogs, you can scan the web for all the public info and draw your
> conclusion.
>
> I guess the point I'm trying to make, strictly by using public sources,
> one can easily generate a list of companies that use CS but never publicize
> it. Would it be wrong to create one and say below is the list of
> "unconfirmed CS users".
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:47 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial.
> > > Some companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and
> > > guard that info religiously.
> >
> > Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> > certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's an
> > awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like there's a
> limited
> > supply of CloudStack to go around.
> >
> > The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about deployments
> > is that they keep other companies/recruiters from knocking at their door
> for
> > their CloudStack-proficient employees.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 06:36:16PM +0000, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> Employees use sites like linkedin and its easy to figure out what company X uses just by scanning what this or that person did/does. Also, search thru CS mailing lists of all user domains can help you gather that info.
>
> It all goes back to public information. While technically - you cannot say that company X is using CS officially on ASF/Wiki or elsewhere, on private blogs, you can scan the web for all the public info and draw your conclusion.
>
> I guess the point I'm trying to make, strictly by using public sources, one can easily generate a list of companies that use CS but never publicize it. Would it be wrong to create one and say below is the list of "unconfirmed CS users".
I'd personally prefer if the project itself avoided doing that.
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:47 PM
> > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial.
> > > Some companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and
> > > guard that info religiously.
> >
> > Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> > certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's an
> > awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like there's a limited
> > supply of CloudStack to go around.
> >
> > The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about deployments
> > is that they keep other companies/recruiters from knocking at their door for
> > their CloudStack-proficient employees.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Employees use sites like linkedin and its easy to figure out what company X uses just by scanning what this or that person did/does. Also, search thru CS mailing lists of all user domains can help you gather that info.
It all goes back to public information. While technically - you cannot say that company X is using CS officially on ASF/Wiki or elsewhere, on private blogs, you can scan the web for all the public info and draw your conclusion.
I guess the point I'm trying to make, strictly by using public sources, one can easily generate a list of companies that use CS but never publicize it. Would it be wrong to create one and say below is the list of "unconfirmed CS users".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:47 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> > i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial.
> > Some companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and
> > guard that info religiously.
>
> Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
> certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's an
> awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like there's a limited
> supply of CloudStack to go around.
>
> The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about deployments
> is that they keep other companies/recruiters from knocking at their door for
> their CloudStack-proficient employees.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial. Some
> companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and guard that
> info religiously.
Being an open source project/product that anyone can download, it's
certainly not an *exclusive* advantage for anyone. Obviously, it's an
awesome addition to any company's IT stack, but it's not like there's a
limited supply of CloudStack to go around.
The only thing I'd say companies gain from keeping mum about deployments
is that they keep other companies/recruiters from knocking at their door
for their CloudStack-proficient employees.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
i partially agree with the premise it could be mutually beneficial. Some
companies view cloudstack as their competitive advantage, and guard that
info religiously.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net> wrote:
> Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What
> about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are
> willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a
> thing is mutually beneficial.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Peder Ulander
> Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
>
> Ilya,
>
> I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
> list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
> marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
> far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
> level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
> Apache CloudStack.
>
> I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
> clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
> Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
> win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
>
> Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
> advice that would be helpful too.
>
> Thanks
> Matt Mullins
> CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
> Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
> +1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
> matt.mullins@citrix.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> >Agree with Joe.
> >
> >As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
> >DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
> >names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
> >will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
> >departments work..
> >
> >
> >While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
> >CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
> >driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
> >
> >
> >I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
> >around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
> >was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number & ratio
> >will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
> >because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
> >investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
> >building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
> >based solution.
> >
> >Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
> >lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to some
> >colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
> >presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
> >
> >
> >Best,
> >Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> >>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
> >>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
> >>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
> >>>published.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
> >>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>
> >>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
> >>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
> >>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
> >>
> >>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
> >>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
> >>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
> >>public, for whatever reason.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>
> >>jzb
> >>--
> >>Joe Brockmeier
> >>jzb@zonker.net
> >>Twitter: @jzb
> >>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >
>
>
RE: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Clayton Weise <cw...@iswest.net>.
Just a suggestion to this; having been part of such an exercise. What about a jointly published case study with CS/CP customers/users who are willing to share. Since it involves good press for both companies such a thing is mutually beneficial.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:13 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Peder Ulander
Subject: Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>Agree with Joe.
>
>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>departments work..
>
>
>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>
>
>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number & ratio
>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>based solution.
>
>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to some
>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>
>
>Best,
>Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>published.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>
>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>public, for whatever reason.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>jzb
>>--
>>Joe Brockmeier
>>jzb@zonker.net
>>Twitter: @jzb
>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Mathias Mullins <ma...@citrix.com>.
Ilya,
I think to take that one step further, we do have an official "public"
list of customers that have signed off on letting us use their name in
marketing, presentations, etcŠ What we probably need to find out is how
far can we take that with ACS. Can those names be published at an ACS
level as well since the official title of CCP is CloudPlatform powered by
Apache CloudStack.
I'm copying in Peder Ulander in here to see if maybe he can help with some
clarification. If that list can be brought to bear for the good of both
Citrix customers using Apache CloudStack technology then maybe there is a
win-win without showing any favoritism, more of a use case.
Mark / Karen - I know you are both active on this list, if you have any
advice that would be helpful too.
Thanks
Matt Mullins
CloudPlatform Implementation Engineer
Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc.
+1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone
matt.mullins@citrix.com
On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, "Kelly Hair" <ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>Agree with Joe.
>
>As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
>DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
>names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
>will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
>departments work..
>
>
>While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
>CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
>driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
>
>
>I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
>around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
>was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number & ratio
>will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
>because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
>investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
>building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
>based solution.
>
>Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
>lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to some
>colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
>presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
>
>
>Best,
>Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
>>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get
>>>published.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>>
>>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>>public, for whatever reason.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>jzb
>>--
>>Joe Brockmeier
>>jzb@zonker.net
>>Twitter: @jzb
>>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Kelly Hair <ke...@citrix.com>.
Agree with Joe.
As an account rep @ Citrix developing CloudPlatform for the NE US (PA ->
DE -> ME), I will do everything I can to ensure we can publish customer
names with their consent. However, there's a number of enterprises that
will never allow this to occur. It's just they way their legal
departments work..
While it may be frustrating at times, the fact remains that Apache
CloudStack, and commercial variants like Citrix CloudPlatform, is user
driven rather than a marketing focus like other options in the market.
I can share that there's 150+ paying CloudPlatform customer. In 2011,
around 80% of new customers were Service Providers. In 2012, this number
was evenly split between SPs & enterprises. The enterprise number & ratio
will grow this year especially in mature markets. This is not only
because the SP market is saturated but also because enterprises are
investing more in building private clouds. In developing markets, SPs
building clouds are mostly focused on either a CloudStack or OpenStack
based solution.
Getting back to customers - as you could imagine, we have a slide that
lists ~ 30 customers we can talk about but I would prefer to defer to some
colleagues inside Citrix to bless the publishing of these names. A slide
presented to a prospect is very different than publicly posting :)
Best,
Kelly
On 5/18/13 3:59 PM, "Joe Brockmeier" <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
>> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
>> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
>> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get published.
>>
>> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
>> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
>So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
>published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
>without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
>
>Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
>talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
>want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
>public, for whatever reason.
>
>Best,
>
>jzb
>--
>Joe Brockmeier
>jzb@zonker.net
>Twitter: @jzb
>http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: CloudPlatform/CloudStack Customers and Marketing
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, May 17, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> What is the take on publishing names of CCP customers? I continuously
> learning about more CloudStack/CloudPlatform customers that are huge in
> size - but it hurts our marketing strategy as names don't get published.
>
> Perhaps I can start un-official CS/CP customer list on personal blogs
> based on public information (like job descriptions posted online).
>
> Thoughts?
So, unless a company has specifically signed-off on having their name
published, I think it's probably not a good idea to put it out there
without their blessing. That can have a backlash.
Having a "NASCAR" page of organizations that do use and are willing to
talk about their use of CloudStack would be a good thing. I just don't
want to incur any ill-will on the part of users who don't want to be
public, for whatever reason.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/