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[PATCH] Error-Documents / German Umlauts

Hi !

This patch fixes some problems with the german umlauts in the error
documents. The documents were missing the correct HTML entities for the
german umlauts. Now they are all escaped correctly: � -> &uuml; etc.

BTW I 'fixed' the indentation of the doc's. Just because of correctness :-)

While fixing the above problems I noticed the following issues:

 - all the spanish titles are in english
 - in HTTP_LENGTH_REQUIRED.html.var the spanish part is missing completely
 - in HTTP_REQUEST_TIME_OUT.html.var the french part is definitely
   incorrect -> it's the same as in HTTP_PRECONDITION_FAILED.html.var

Is it possible for you to translate the mentioned passages? Possibly I could
arrange this, I'll have to see...

Ohh, btw what's about xhtml-validity? If it's okay for you, I could convert
them to be valid xhtml-documents.

regards,
erik


Valid XHTML Error-Docs, 2. Part

Posted by Erik Abele <we...@codefaktor.de>.
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:05:00PM +0200, Erik Abele wrote:
>>> I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
>>> the files if they won't be included.
>> 
>> +1 especially if someone contributes them!  -- justin
> 
> I will provide an appropriate patch in the next days ;-)

Hi !

Attached are four error documents rendered with XHTML-patched templates
(also attached). I just validated them at validator.w3.org. Even though
there are no errors I would appreciate some comments...

If they are okay for you, I will prepare a patch for it...

regards,
erik


Re: Valid XHTML Error-Docs

Posted by Erik Abele <we...@codefaktor.de>.
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:05:00PM +0200, Erik Abele wrote:
>> I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
>> the files if they won't be included.
> 
> +1 especially if someone contributes them!  -- justin

I will provide an appropriate patch in the next days ;-)

erik


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Re: Valid XHTML Error-Docs

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <je...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:05:00PM +0200, Erik Abele wrote:
> I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
> the files if they won't be included.

+1 especially if someone contributes them!  -- justin

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Re: Valid XHTML Error-Docs

Posted by Erik Abele <we...@codefaktor.de>.
>> I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
>> the files if they won't be included.
> 
> Ehm, what you are talking about? The error documents or the whole
> documentation? I thought about the error documents only. It wouldn't
> make much sense to convert the whole documentation, because the
> documentation pages will be generated from xml-files in future. Then the
> template(s) of the conversion process has to be changed to xhtml.

of course only the error-docs...the documentation really shouldn't be a
problem :-)

erik


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Re: Valid XHTML Error-Docs

Posted by Astrid Keßler <ke...@kess-net.de>.
> I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
> the files if they won't be included.

Ehm, what you are talking about? The error documents or the whole
documentation? I thought about the error documents only. It wouldn't
make much sense to convert the whole documentation, because the
documentation pages will be generated from xml-files in future. Then the
template(s) of the conversion process has to be changed to xhtml.

Kess

E-Mail: kess@kess-net.de


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Valid XHTML Error-Docs

Posted by Erik Abele <we...@codefaktor.de>.
>>> Would it be usefully, if the doc's are valid xhtml-documents?
> 
>> I'm no HTML expert, so I'll leave that question up to someone else... :)
> 
> At the moment there are no advantages for the users. There are some
> advantages for developers, especially when xhtml strict is used.
> But there may be many advantages in future. Browsers may render the
> documents much faster. As well documents are upwards compatible. I
> suggest to set an example and use xhtml for the error documents.

I would also prefer valid XHTML-Documents, but I don't want to convert all
the files if they won't be included.

Apache developers: I know there are more important issues for you but please
speak up if there are any decisions on this topic...

erik


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Re[2]: [PATCH] Error-Documents / German Umlauts

Posted by Astrid Keßler <ke...@kess-net.de>.
>> Would it be usefully, if the doc's are valid xhtml-documents?

> I'm no HTML expert, so I'll leave that question up to someone else... :)

At the moment there are no advantages for the users. There are some
advantages for developers, especially when xhtml strict is used.
But there may be many advantages in future. Browsers may render the
documents much faster. As well documents are upwards compatible. I
suggest to set an example and use xhtml for the error documents.

Kess

E-Mail: kess@kess-net.de


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Re: [PATCH] Error-Documents / German Umlauts

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 10:03:07PM +0200, Erik Abele wrote:
> No problem. Here is the first patch; it only corrects the umlauts and four
> spelling mistakes.

Committed, thanks!

> >> Ohh, btw what's about xhtml-validity? If it's okay for you, I could convert
> >> them to be valid xhtml-documents.
> 
> Would it be usefully, if the doc's are valid xhtml-documents?

I'm no HTML expert, so I'll leave that question up to someone else... :)

-aaron

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Re: [PATCH] Error-Documents / German Umlauts

Posted by Erik Abele <we...@codefaktor.de>.
Hi Aaron.

> This is probably good, but would you mind reposting it in a followup
> message (easier to read the patch that way).

No problem. Here is the first patch; it only corrects the umlauts and four
spelling mistakes.

> Also, it helps if you include the patch inline in your post, or at
> least set the mime-type to text/plain.

Sorry for that. I missed that my dumb Outlook (Mac) looks for extensions and
therefore I have to provide .txt to get text/plain :-)

>> Ohh, btw what's about xhtml-validity? If it's okay for you, I could convert
>> them to be valid xhtml-documents.

Would it be usefully, if the doc's are valid xhtml-documents?

> Gruesse aus Sud Kalifornieren,
> -aaron

greetings back from the 'sunny' middle of germany,
erik


Re: [PATCH] Error-Documents / German Umlauts

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 10:36:38PM +0200, Erik Abele wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> This patch fixes some problems with the german umlauts in the error
> documents. The documents were missing the correct HTML entities for the
> german umlauts. Now they are all escaped correctly: ü -> &uuml; etc.

Danke!

> BTW I 'fixed' the indentation of the doc's. Just because of correctness :-)

This is probably good, but would you mind reposting it in a followup
message (easier to read the patch that way).

Also, it helps if you include the patch inline in your post, or at
least set the mime-type to text/plain.

Gruesse aus Sud Kalifornieren,
-aaron

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