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Posted to java-user@axis.apache.org by Peter <li...@gmail.com> on 2005/08/25 00:30:07 UTC

Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Hello,
I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.

I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
and client using Web Service.

I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.

Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
Thank you in advance.

[OT] Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Woodchuck <wo...@yahoo.com>.
darn, i was hoping someone found a way to lob 4GB globs around  :D

woodchuck


--- Guy Rixon <gt...@ast.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> we have a similar situation in our project (AstroGrid:
> http://www.astrogrid.org/). We have a service that gives access to an
> on-line
> data store in which the data-items range from tiny to very large.
> Rather than
> export the large items as attachments, we prefer a two-stage process.
> 
>  1. Client calls the W/S to request a transfer with a particular
> protocol.
>     W/S returns a URL for this transfer.
>  2. Client transfers data to/from the URL.
> 
> We're treating the bulk-transfer URL as ephemeral and the W/S as an
> indirector
> for the data-transfer. That lets us manage the data on file-servers
> without exposing permanent URLs.
> 
> If your data are private, then you need to secure the link to the
> file server
> as well as the link to the W/S. You could do this by including a
> password, generated by the W/S, in the bulk-transfer URL; in this
> case the W/S
> has to manage the authorization on the file-server. Alternatively,
> you could
> secure access to both W/S and file-server using a client certificate
> and
> GridFTP for the file-transfer protocol.
> 
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Peter wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > Thank you for the helps.
> > I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am
> doing a
> > Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like
> getAllMovieNames
> > using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download method and
> upload method
> > to download and upload movies (very big) between client and server.
> > I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind
> SOAP with
> > other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer
> protocol?Does
> > Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this problem?
> I really
> > have no idea.
> >
> > Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
> > Best regards
> > peter
> >
> >
> > On 8/25/05, Michael Oliver <ol...@alariussystems.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > > Michael Oliver
> > > CTO
> > > Alarius Systems LLC
> > > 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
> > > Las Vegas, NV 89156
> > > Phone:(702)643-7425
> > > Fax:(702)974-0341
> > > *Note new email changed from oliverm@matrix-media.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
> > > To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.
> > >
> > > kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other
> protocols
> > > -
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)
> > >
> > > -- dims
> > >
> > > On 8/24/05, Peter <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
> > > >
> > > > I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find
> information
> > > > for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big
> movie. My
> > > > scenario is I want to upload and download big movies between
> server
> > > > and client using Web Service.
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments
> .I do
> > > > not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
> > > > Thank you in advance.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service
> Platform
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> Guy Rixon 				        gtr@ast.cam.ac.uk
> Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: +44-1223-337542
> Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: +44-1223-337523
> 


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Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Guy Rixon <gt...@ast.cam.ac.uk>.
Hi,

we have a similar situation in our project (AstroGrid:
http://www.astrogrid.org/). We have a service that gives access to an on-line
data store in which the data-items range from tiny to very large. Rather than
export the large items as attachments, we prefer a two-stage process.

 1. Client calls the W/S to request a transfer with a particular protocol.
    W/S returns a URL for this transfer.
 2. Client transfers data to/from the URL.

We're treating the bulk-transfer URL as ephemeral and the W/S as an indirector
for the data-transfer. That lets us manage the data on file-servers
without exposing permanent URLs.

If your data are private, then you need to secure the link to the file server
as well as the link to the W/S. You could do this by including a
password, generated by the W/S, in the bulk-transfer URL; in this case the W/S
has to manage the authorization on the file-server. Alternatively, you could
secure access to both W/S and file-server using a client certificate and
GridFTP for the file-transfer protocol.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Peter wrote:

> Hi all,
> Thank you for the helps.
> I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am doing a
> Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like getAllMovieNames
> using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download method and upload method
> to download and upload movies (very big) between client and server.
> I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind SOAP with
> other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer protocol?Does
> Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this problem? I really
> have no idea.
>
> Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
> Best regards
> peter
>
>
> On 8/25/05, Michael Oliver <ol...@alariussystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Michael Oliver
> > CTO
> > Alarius Systems LLC
> > 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
> > Las Vegas, NV 89156
> > Phone:(702)643-7425
> > Fax:(702)974-0341
> > *Note new email changed from oliverm@matrix-media.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
> > To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.
> >
> > kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
> > - http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> > On 8/24/05, Peter <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
> > >
> > > I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
> > > for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
> > > scenario is I want to upload and download big movies between server
> > > and client using Web Service.
> > >
> > > I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
> > > not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
> > >
> > > Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform
> >
> >
>

Guy Rixon 				        gtr@ast.cam.ac.uk
Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: +44-1223-337542
Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: +44-1223-337523

Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Peter <li...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
Thank you for the helps.
I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am doing a 
Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like getAllMovieNames 
using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download method and upload method 
to download and upload movies (very big) between client and server.
I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind SOAP with 
other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer protocol?Does 
Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this problem? I really 
have no idea.

Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
Best regards
peter


On 8/25/05, Michael Oliver <ol...@alariussystems.com> wrote:
> 
> I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Michael Oliver
> CTO
> Alarius Systems LLC
> 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
> Las Vegas, NV 89156
> Phone:(702)643-7425
> Fax:(702)974-0341
> *Note new email changed from oliverm@matrix-media.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
> To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.
> 
> kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
> - http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)
> 
> -- dims
> 
> On 8/24/05, Peter <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
> >
> > I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
> > for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
> > scenario is I want to upload and download big movies between server
> > and client using Web Service.
> >
> > I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
> > not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
> >
> > Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform
> 
>

RE: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Michael Oliver <ol...@alariussystems.com>.
I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Michael Oliver
CTO
Alarius Systems LLC
6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
Las Vegas, NV 89156
Phone:(702)643-7425
Fax:(702)974-0341
*Note new email changed from oliverm@matrix-media.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
- http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)

-- dims

On 8/24/05, Peter <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
> 
> I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
> for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
> scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
> and client using Web Service.
> 
> I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
> not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
> 
> Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
> Thank you in advance.
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform


Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
- http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)

-- dims

On 8/24/05, Peter <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
> 
> I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
> for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
> scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
> and client using Web Service.
> 
> I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
> not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
> 
> Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
> Thank you in advance.
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform

AW: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Posted by Ferruh Zamangoer <fe...@gmx.de>.
It sounds like P2P :=). You can use for example http://www.jxta.org .
 
Regards
Ferruh

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. August 2005 00:30
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Betreff: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

Hello,
I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.

I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
and client using Web Service.

I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.

Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
Thank you in advance.