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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> on 2005/02/25 11:47:02 UTC

Metadata in Forrest (was Re: [RT] Per document skinconf...)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
...
>> All that being said, Forrest could be made to support both a separate 
>> file or embedded data (there are use cases where the simplistic 
>> solution is the best one). The problem with this is that we will have 
>> two locations for storing the same data - could be confusing for users.
> 
> IMHO the least we have to worry about is to confuse users. I have seen 
> that if there is a simple and a more complete way, users would not get 
> confused.
> 
> The only confusion would come out of using both methods at the same 
> time, with clashing metadata values. Ouch!
> 
> I'll browse the web for 'rdf in html', 'xhtml metadata' etc to see how 
> this is defined elsewhere. I want to try to reinvent the wheel the least 
> possible.

And I did :-)

 From what I read it seems that making it possible to embed in xhtml 
*and* be able to king to a metadata file is the solution to pursue.

Informative Opinion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200401/msg00026.html

XHTML2 Metainformation Attributes Module
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722/mod-metaAttributes.html

<link> to the Metadata
http://infomesh.net/2002/rdfinhtml/#link

FOAF Auto-Discovery: Publishing and Linking FOAF files
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/#sec-foaffiles

Using Dublin Core
http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
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Re: Metadata in Forrest (was Re: [RT] Per document skinconf...)

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> All that being said, Forrest could be made to support both a separate 
>>> file or embedded data (there are use cases where the simplistic 
>>> solution is the best one). The problem with this is that we will have 
>>> two locations for storing the same data - could be confusing for users.
>>
>>
>> IMHO the least we have to worry about is to confuse users. I have seen 
>> that if there is a simple and a more complete way, users would not get 
>> confused.
>>
>> The only confusion would come out of using both methods at the same 
>> time, with clashing metadata values. Ouch!
>>
>> I'll browse the web for 'rdf in html', 'xhtml metadata' etc to see how 
>> this is defined elsewhere. I want to try to reinvent the wheel the 
>> least possible.
> 
> 
> And I did :-)
> 
>  From what I read it seems that making it possible to embed in xhtml 
> *and* be able to king to a metadata file is the solution to pursue.

OK, I'm working on meta-data in an extension to Burrokeet soon (using 
Dublin Core). I'll follow up on these links and create a separate RT 
(after 0.7 release).

Ross