Re: Remove dependency for concurrent.jar

[Aaron Smuts <as...@yahoo.com>]

Sorry for the delay.  I'm in the process of migrating to the concurrent backport.   http://backport-jsr166.sourceforge.net/index.php

Aaron

--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Remove dependency for concurrent.jar
> To: "JCS Users List" <jc...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 9:40 AM
> Hi Aaron.
> 
> Sorry to bother you again .. :) Is there any news on this
> issue ?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Nuno
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 15:28, Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi :)
> >
> > No worries.. take your time.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nuno
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 15:25, Aaron Smuts <as...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry for the delay.  I'm working on it, but
> lots of other things keep
> >> coming up.  It will take a couple more
> weeks.
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: Remove dependency for
> concurrent.jar
> >> > To: "JCS Users List" <jc...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:13 PM
> >> > Hi Aaron,
> >> >
> >> > Sorry to bother you again with this issue..
> >> >
> >> > Are there any news regarding this ?
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Nuno
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 16:23, Nuno Sénica
> <ns...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Aaron :)
> >> > >
> >> > > Here I am again querying you on the
> status of this
> >> > task.
> >> > >
> >> > > Did you have the chance the start it ?
> :) How it is
> >> > going.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > Nuno Sénica
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:31, Nuno
> Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Aaron
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Once again thanks for your inputs..
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Since it is not a matter of find and
> replace,
> >> > maybe I'll wait a couple of
> >> > >> weeks so that you take on that task
> :)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'll poke by then just to know how
> the work is
> >> > going.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regads and thanks a lot once again.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Nuno
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 16:24, Aaron
> Smuts <as...@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> It's not a simple matter of find
> and
> >> > replace.  If it was, I would have
> >> > >>> done it some time back. . . .
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> This is such an extensive
> change, it's
> >> > probably best that I do it.  But
> >> > >>> feel free to give it a try.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Aaron
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Aaron Smuts
> <as...@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > From: Aaron Smuts <as...@yahoo.com>
> >> > >>> > Subject: Re: Remove
> dependency for
> >> > concurrent.jar
> >> > >>> > To: "JCS Users List" <jc...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> > >>> > Date: Thursday, August 27,
> 2009, 8:21 AM
> >> > >>> > In my first email, I
> pointed out
> >> > >>> > several things that would
> need to be
> >> > changed.  You can
> >> > >>> > simply search for the util
> concurrent
> >> > import and find them
> >> > >>> > all.
> >> > "EDU.oswego.cs.dl.util.concurrent"
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > ClockDaemon is used more
> than the poooled
> >> > executor. . . .
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Yes, there is a backport
> for JDK
> >> > 1.4.  A backport
> >> > >>> > implements something
> available only in a
> >> > new version.
> >> > >>> > In this case, the backport
> is of the 1.5
> >> > concurrent
> >> > >>> > library.  This allows
> you to compile
> >> > and run in
> >> > >>> > 1.4.  But if you are
> running 1.5 or
> >> > later, you don't
> >> > >>> > need to backport jar.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > There are some subtle
> changes between the
> >> > two.  But it
> >> > >>> > should be perfectly
> possible to get it
> >> > working in a few
> >> > >>> > days.  Take a crack at
> it if you
> >> > want.  I'll get
> >> > >>> > to it in about two weeks.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Aaron
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > --- On Thu, 8/27/09,
> Jeffrey Kesselman
> >> > <je...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > From: Jeffrey
> Kesselman <je...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> > > Subject: Re: Remove
> dependency for
> >> > concurrent.jar
> >> > >>> > > To: "JCS Users List"
> <jc...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> > >>> > > Date: Thursday, August
> 27, 2009,
> >> > 8:02 AM
> >> > >>> > > Well i don't know the
> codebase so
> >> > >>> > > Aaron is your better
> reference
> >> > there
> >> > >>> > > BUT...
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Since the large
> majority of Doug's
> >> > concurrent library
> >> > >>> > got
> >> > >>> > > ported as is into
> >> > >>> > > the JDK, Id start by
> simply taking
> >> > his library out of
> >> > >>> > your
> >> > >>> > > build path in
> >> > >>> > > eclipse.  Then
> follow the
> >> > errors and everywhere it
> >> > >>> > > can't find a reference
> to
> >> > >>> > > a concurrent utility,
> use's
> >> > Eclipse's help to add the
> >> > >>> > > proper import.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Id imagine it cant be
> more then a
> >> > day or two of very
> >> > >>> > > mechanical work...
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Alternately, if your a
> perl type
> >> > hacker you could try
> >> > >>> > > writing a script that
> >> > >>> > > would look for the
> string that is
> >> > doug's package name
> >> > >>> > in
> >> > >>> > > the file and
> >> > >>> > > repalce it with the
> JDK package.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > JK
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009
> at 10:36 AM,
> >> > Nuno Sénica <ns...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> > > wrote:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > > Hi Jeffrey and
> Aaron,
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > We are currently
> evaluating the
> >> > effort to
> >> > >>> > perform
> >> > >>> > > those changes.. If
> the
> >> > >>> > > > effort is not
> that big, I
> >> > personally, would like
> >> > >>> > to
> >> > >>> > > make that change and
> >> > >>> > > > contribute to the
> community.
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > I'll need some
> guideline from
> >> > where to start,
> >> > >>> > and
> >> > >>> > > regarding that I'm
> >> > >>> > > > relying
> >> > >>> > > > on you guys :D
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > Which should be
> the best
> >> > approach to start this
> >> > >>> > change
> >> > >>> > > ?
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > Regards,
> >> > >>> > > > Nuno
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > On Thu, Aug 27,
> 2009 at 15:30,
> >> > Jeffrey Kesselman
> >> > >>> > > <je...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> > > wrote:
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > The source
> is available,
> >> > couldn't you go
> >> > >>> > through
> >> > >>> > > it and change the
> >> > >>> > > > > references
> yourselves?
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > That seems a
> lot less
> >> > costly then abandoning
> >> > >>> > the
> >> > >>> > > whole library.
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > Maybe you
> could even
> >> > contribute those
> >> > >>> > changes
> >> > >>> > > back to the
> community...
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > On Thu, Aug
> 27, 2009 at
> >> > 7:02 AM, Nuno
> >> > >>> > Sénica
> >> > >>> > > <ns...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> > > wrote:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > > Hi
> all,
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > > At the
> company where
> >> > I work for, we
> >> > >>> > have an
> >> > >>> > > application which
> relies on
> >> > >>> > > > > JCS
> >> > >>> > > > > > and it
> has proven to
> >> > be a good solution
> >> > >>> > so
> >> > >>> > > far. But now, we were
> >> > >>> > > > informed
> >> > >>> > > > > > about
> legal issues by
> >> > using concurrent
> >> > >>> > lib
> >> > >>> > > and we are being
> instructed
> >> > >>> > > > to
> >> > >>> > > > > > change
> the caching
> >> > lib.
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > > My
> question is if
> >> > there's any plan to
> >> > >>> > use
> >> > >>> > > the native concurrent
> instead
> >> > >>> > > > > of
> >> > >>> > > > > > the lib
> that JSC
> >> > depend on at the
> >> > >>> > moment ?
> >> > >>> > > Is so, when it is
> planned to
> >> > >>> > > > > be
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> available ?
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > > Thanks
> in advance.
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> Regards,
> >> > >>> > > > > > Nuno
> >> > >>> > > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > --
> >> > >>> > > > > ~~ Microsoft
> help desk
> >> > says: reply hazy,
> >> > >>> > ask
> >> > >>> > > again later. ~~
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > --
> >> > >>> > > ~~ Microsoft help desk
> says: reply
> >> > hazy, ask again
> >> > >>> > later.
> >> > >>> > > ~~
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
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