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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> on 2009/12/29 16:59:29 UTC

Gearing up for GSoC 2010

We probably ought to think about getting ready to manage GSoC from 
within the comdev project this coming year.

In the main I think we should follow the process defined over the last 5 
years. Therefore, the first thing we need to do is bring the notes from 
the wiki into our CWiki space (and hence our website).

The second thing we need to do is agree any modifications to the 
process. Here are my starters:

- allow admins to apply negative marks in evaluation (this is to help 
them spread the applicants across a reasonable spread of scores and also 
to "correct" mentor evaluations.

- require all potential mentors to add theirprojects to their normal 
project JIRA, mark them with a comdev predefined tag (or whatever JIRA 
provides for us) and link to them from their FOAF file (exactly how can 
be worked out if we agree on this). This will allow the webapp Nick has 
started to generate a list of projects and will also mean that possible 
projects/mentors are ready for easy reuse outside GSoC.

I don't think it is a good idea to go messing with the GSoC process too 
much, but if there are other things like this we can do that will make 
it easier to roll out the full mentoring programme after GSoC is 
underway I think it's a good idea - so suggestions welcome.

Ross

Re: Gearing up for GSoC 2010

Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
I'll start looking into what information we need to make available for
GSoC 2010 based on the docs we had in moin-moin wiki and will start
moving some of the info into a GSoC section in the main community
website. Please let me know if you have any ideas/suggestions/etc in
mind.


-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: Gearing up for GSoC 2010

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 06/01/2010 06:25, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Ross Gardler<rg...@apache.org>  wrote:

...

>>> - require all potential mentors to add theirprojects to their normal
>>> project JIRA, mark them with a comdev predefined tag (or whatever JIRA
>>> provides for us) and link to them from their FOAF file (exactly how can
>>> be worked out if we agree on this). This will allow the webapp Nick has
>>> started to generate a list of projects and will also mean that possible
>>> projects/mentors are ready for easy reuse outside GSoC.
>>>
>
> This is something that need more discussion. For GSoC, we would need
> something that would list all ASF wide project ideas, separated by
> project, that could be linked from the ASF page from melange.

I believe JIRA can do that with a saved filter. We can embed that in the 
comdev web site using a JIRA portlet. We should then encourage each 
project to have a similar portlet on their own site, both for GSoC and 
subsequent tasks.

I guess we should experiment with that first. Since Hadoop already has a 
tag for newbie level issues I guess I could try it out (it may help Ravi 
find some suitable projects to get started on too).

There is a flaw in this plan though, some projects don't use JIRA.

>>> I don't think it is a good idea to go messing with the GSoC process too
>>> much, but if there are other things like this we can do that will make
>>> it easier to roll out the full mentoring programme after GSoC is
>>> underway I think it's a good idea - so suggestions welcome.
>>>
>
> +1, but I think we should have started this discussion at code-awards,
> as I don't believe we have much people/mentors subscribed to this list
> yet.

The reason I started it here is because code-awards@ is an internal list 
and I was looking for suggestions relevant to the broader mentoring 
operations. Isobel has already drawn attention to this thread over on 
code-awards@.

Ross

Re: Gearing up for GSoC 2010

Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> Any thoughts on the below (29 Dec is a bad time to send such thoughts I
> know)
>
> On 29/12/2009 15:59, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>
>> We probably ought to think about getting ready to manage GSoC from
>> within the comdev project this coming year.
>>
>> In the main I think we should follow the process defined over the last 5
>> years. Therefore, the first thing we need to do is bring the notes from
>> the wiki into our CWiki space (and hence our website).
>>
>> The second thing we need to do is agree any modifications to the
>> process. Here are my starters:
>>
>> - allow admins to apply negative marks in evaluation (this is to help
>> them spread the applicants across a reasonable spread of scores and also
>> to "correct" mentor evaluations.
>>

As far as I remember, this is indeed the only thing that need to be
adjusted on the process compared to last year.

>> - require all potential mentors to add theirprojects to their normal
>> project JIRA, mark them with a comdev predefined tag (or whatever JIRA
>> provides for us) and link to them from their FOAF file (exactly how can
>> be worked out if we agree on this). This will allow the webapp Nick has
>> started to generate a list of projects and will also mean that possible
>> projects/mentors are ready for easy reuse outside GSoC.
>>

This is something that need more discussion. For GSoC, we would need
something that would list all ASF wide project ideas, separated by
project, that could be linked from the ASF page from melange.

>> I don't think it is a good idea to go messing with the GSoC process too
>> much, but if there are other things like this we can do that will make
>> it easier to roll out the full mentoring programme after GSoC is
>> underway I think it's a good idea - so suggestions welcome.
>>

+1, but I think we should have started this discussion at code-awards,
as I don't believe we have much people/mentors subscribed to this list
yet.

>> Ross
>
>



-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: Gearing up for GSoC 2010

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Any thoughts on the below (29 Dec is a bad time to send such thoughts I 
know)

On 29/12/2009 15:59, Ross Gardler wrote:
> We probably ought to think about getting ready to manage GSoC from
> within the comdev project this coming year.
>
> In the main I think we should follow the process defined over the last 5
> years. Therefore, the first thing we need to do is bring the notes from
> the wiki into our CWiki space (and hence our website).
>
> The second thing we need to do is agree any modifications to the
> process. Here are my starters:
>
> - allow admins to apply negative marks in evaluation (this is to help
> them spread the applicants across a reasonable spread of scores and also
> to "correct" mentor evaluations.
>
> - require all potential mentors to add theirprojects to their normal
> project JIRA, mark them with a comdev predefined tag (or whatever JIRA
> provides for us) and link to them from their FOAF file (exactly how can
> be worked out if we agree on this). This will allow the webapp Nick has
> started to generate a list of projects and will also mean that possible
> projects/mentors are ready for easy reuse outside GSoC.
>
> I don't think it is a good idea to go messing with the GSoC process too
> much, but if there are other things like this we can do that will make
> it easier to roll out the full mentoring programme after GSoC is
> underway I think it's a good idea - so suggestions welcome.
>
> Ross