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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com> on 2003/08/03 00:57:46 UTC
Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com
robertporter@rp2c.com
RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
Appears I spoke to soon. While memory usage is much better during the
application execution, it still eventually begins a steep climb in terms of
memory consumption, even with setting the various memory parameters on the
JVM. What is most baffling to me is that this behavior does not occur when
Tomcat is not running as a service. Anyone have any clues??????
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Porter [mailto:robertporter@pobox.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:39 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I reinstalled Tomcat using the ServiceCfg tool mentioned previously and
badda boom badda bing! No more creeping memory loss, at least not over the
past several hours. I set some limits on memory usage etc. Am now trying
to determine what exactly, I have to pass as parameters to the tomcat.exe
service installation tool.
I feel like I am missing something obvious, when you install the Tomcat
service with the provided tomcat.exe what happens to all the JVM parameters?
Are they set in the registry? Environment, where?
But, I can at last see daylight again! Thanks to all for your help!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
well in that case the tomcat.exe included with the tomcat dist is fine
once you have fixed your setup. It is simply run as a batch script, or as
part of an install (you execute tomcat.exe once with the relevant
parameters to install it)
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 18:01
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for
deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
Appears I spoke to soon. While memory usage is much better during the
application execution, it still eventually begins a steep climb in terms of
memory consumption, even with setting the various memory parameters on the
JVM. What is most baffling to me is that this behavior does not occur when
Tomcat is not running as a service. Anyone have any clues??????
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Porter [mailto:robertporter@pobox.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:39 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I reinstalled Tomcat using the ServiceCfg tool mentioned previously and
badda boom badda bing! No more creeping memory loss, at least not over the
past several hours. I set some limits on memory usage etc. Am now trying
to determine what exactly, I have to pass as parameters to the tomcat.exe
service installation tool.
I feel like I am missing something obvious, when you install the Tomcat
service with the provided tomcat.exe what happens to all the JVM parameters?
Are they set in the registry? Environment, where?
But, I can at last see daylight again! Thanks to all for your help!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
well in that case the tomcat.exe included with the tomcat dist is fine
once you have fixed your setup. It is simply run as a batch script, or as
part of an install (you execute tomcat.exe once with the relevant
parameters to install it)
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 18:01
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for
deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I reinstalled Tomcat using the ServiceCfg tool mentioned previously and
badda boom badda bing! No more creeping memory loss, at least not over the
past several hours. I set some limits on memory usage etc. Am now trying
to determine what exactly, I have to pass as parameters to the tomcat.exe
service installation tool.
I feel like I am missing something obvious, when you install the Tomcat
service with the provided tomcat.exe what happens to all the JVM parameters?
Are they set in the registry? Environment, where?
But, I can at last see daylight again! Thanks to all for your help!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
well in that case the tomcat.exe included with the tomcat dist is fine
once you have fixed your setup. It is simply run as a batch script, or as
part of an install (you execute tomcat.exe once with the relevant
parameters to install it)
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 18:01
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for
deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I reinstalled Tomcat using the ServiceCfg tool mentioned previously and
badda boom badda bing! No more creeping memory loss, at least not over the
past several hours. I set some limits on memory usage etc. Am now trying
to determine what exactly, I have to pass as parameters to the tomcat.exe
service installation tool.
I feel like I am missing something obvious, when you install the Tomcat
service with the provided tomcat.exe what happens to all the JVM parameters?
Are they set in the registry? Environment, where?
But, I can at last see daylight again! Thanks to all for your help!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
well in that case the tomcat.exe included with the tomcat dist is fine
once you have fixed your setup. It is simply run as a batch script, or as
part of an install (you execute tomcat.exe once with the relevant
parameters to install it)
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 18:01
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for
deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by pe...@kisstechnologies.co.uk.
well in that case the tomcat.exe included with the tomcat dist is fine
once you have fixed your setup. It is simply run as a batch script, or as
part of an install (you execute tomcat.exe once with the relevant
parameters to install it)
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 18:01
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for
deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
Found that while googling my issue, it looks very promising, but I need
something we can include in a custom setup that will be run by users.
Although that tool will help in testing! Seen anything like it for deploying
webapps?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Funk [mailto:funkman@joedog.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
> clear on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for
> Tomcat/JVM? And if so, what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it
> attempts to. What we see now is a gradual increase in memory usage
> over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed by an abend of the Tomcat
> service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window, using the stock
> Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution memory usage
> stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these memory
> parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
> set any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by pe...@kisstechnologies.co.uk.
thanks been looking for something like that for ages!
Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>
03/08/2003 16:52
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
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cc:
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes
life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
clear
> on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if
so,
> what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see
now
> is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period,
followed
> by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a
window,
> using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
> memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
> memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might
be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not
set
> any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not clear
> on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if so,
> what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see now
> is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed
> by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window,
> using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
> memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
> memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not set
> any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
If you need to run NT as a service, use this tool to set it up. It makes life
pretty nice.
http://web.bvu.edu/staff/david/tcservcfg/
-Tim
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/windows.html
Robert Porter wrote:
> I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not clear
> on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if so,
> what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see now
> is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed
> by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window,
> using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
> memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
> memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
> required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not set
> any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Porter
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by pe...@kisstechnologies.co.uk.
The settings are not controlled in the startup.bat - if you want to
control them from the command line, you set the environment variable
"JAVA_OPTS" with them. The default settings for a Sun JVM is to allow a
max heap of 64m - if you try to exceed this,
java.lang.OutOfMemoryException s will be thrown and by and large the whole
thing will fall over. You can probably see these in the log file if you
look. Again if you havent specified anything in the service setup, it
will probably run with 64m of memory as well.
Pete
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 14:27
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Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not
clear
on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if
so,
what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see
now
is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period,
followed
by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a
window,
using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not set
any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:26 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I dont think the java versi0on is necessarily a problem however what you
need to remeber is when you install the service, you fix the settings of
the JVM. If you want to control memory settings, you need to do it in the
tomcat.exe command which you run to install the service. My server is
down at the moment so I cant give you an example but if you look in
tomcat.exe help you can see how to add java options, and one of them will
need to be somthing like what was suggested below (ie -Xmx128m). As an
aside, I personally wouldnt do the -Xms128m as well because this will mean
that that much memory is used up irrespective of requirements. Whilst
this configuration is good in a server environment, in a client where
memory is more of a premium, you should only default to what you expect it
to use on a minimal or average basis.
cheers
Pete
Kiss Technologies
http://www.kisstechnologies.co.uk/
4, Percy Street
London
W1T 1DF
Phone numbers:
Phone 020 7692 9922
Fax 020 7692 9923
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 04:49
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To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much
the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The
laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives
so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and
max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are
similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the
same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash
after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory
will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am
assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about
with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes
every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not clear
on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if so,
what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see now
is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed
by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window,
using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not set
any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:26 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I dont think the java versi0on is necessarily a problem however what you
need to remeber is when you install the service, you fix the settings of
the JVM. If you want to control memory settings, you need to do it in the
tomcat.exe command which you run to install the service. My server is
down at the moment so I cant give you an example but if you look in
tomcat.exe help you can see how to add java options, and one of them will
need to be somthing like what was suggested below (ie -Xmx128m). As an
aside, I personally wouldnt do the -Xms128m as well because this will mean
that that much memory is used up irrespective of requirements. Whilst
this configuration is good in a server environment, in a client where
memory is more of a premium, you should only default to what you expect it
to use on a minimal or average basis.
cheers
Pete
Kiss Technologies
http://www.kisstechnologies.co.uk/
4, Percy Street
London
W1T 1DF
Phone numbers:
Phone 020 7692 9922
Fax 020 7692 9923
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 04:49
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much
the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The
laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives
so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and
max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are
similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the
same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash
after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory
will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am
assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about
with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes
every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I agree with your view on memory usage on a client, but what I am not clear
on is do those settings constitute a "hard" limit for Tomcat/JVM? And if so,
what happens when the limit is exceeded, or it attempts to. What we see now
is a gradual increase in memory usage over a 10 - 15 minute period, followed
by an abend of the Tomcat service. If we run the Tomcat session in a window,
using the stock Startup.bat file included with the binary distribution
memory usage stays flat. This is what led me to wonder if some of these
memory parameters to the JVM (during the install of the service) might be
required. I am guessing that the stock install of the service does not set
any limit on memory usage? Is this true? Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Bob Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk
[mailto:pete.storey@kisstechnologies.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:26 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I dont think the java versi0on is necessarily a problem however what you
need to remeber is when you install the service, you fix the settings of
the JVM. If you want to control memory settings, you need to do it in the
tomcat.exe command which you run to install the service. My server is
down at the moment so I cant give you an example but if you look in
tomcat.exe help you can see how to add java options, and one of them will
need to be somthing like what was suggested below (ie -Xmx128m). As an
aside, I personally wouldnt do the -Xms128m as well because this will mean
that that much memory is used up irrespective of requirements. Whilst
this configuration is good in a server environment, in a client where
memory is more of a premium, you should only default to what you expect it
to use on a minimal or average basis.
cheers
Pete
Kiss Technologies
http://www.kisstechnologies.co.uk/
4, Percy Street
London
W1T 1DF
Phone numbers:
Phone 020 7692 9922
Fax 020 7692 9923
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 04:49
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much
the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The
laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives
so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and
max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are
similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the
same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash
after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory
will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am
assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about
with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes
every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by pe...@kisstechnologies.co.uk.
I dont think the java versi0on is necessarily a problem however what you
need to remeber is when you install the service, you fix the settings of
the JVM. If you want to control memory settings, you need to do it in the
tomcat.exe command which you run to install the service. My server is
down at the moment so I cant give you an example but if you look in
tomcat.exe help you can see how to add java options, and one of them will
need to be somthing like what was suggested below (ie -Xmx128m). As an
aside, I personally wouldnt do the -Xms128m as well because this will mean
that that much memory is used up irrespective of requirements. Whilst
this configuration is good in a server environment, in a client where
memory is more of a premium, you should only default to what you expect it
to use on a minimal or average basis.
cheers
Pete
Kiss Technologies
http://www.kisstechnologies.co.uk/
4, Percy Street
London
W1T 1DF
Phone numbers:
Phone 020 7692 9922
Fax 020 7692 9923
"Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
03/08/2003 04:49
Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much
the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The
laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives
so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and
max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are
similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the
same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash
after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory
will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am
assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about
with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes
every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@rp2c.com>.
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@pobox.com>.
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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RE: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Robert Porter <ro...@rp2c.com>.
I am not sure why we are not running 1.4, but the image from corporate has
1.3.1 and we have been told to live with it. We are running pretty much the
same configuration from what you describe but with drastically different
results.
I am checking on JVM settings, and I will try what you suggest. The laptops
are Dell and IBM late models with 256 MB of memory and large fast drives so
I don't think it's the hardware. All running W2K Pro with SQL Server 2000
Std Ed. We are using an older JDBC driver, what JDBC driver are you using?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nrward@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:27 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com robertporter@rp2c.com
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Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Nathan Ward <nr...@cox.net>.
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com
robertporter@rp2c.com
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Re: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
Posted by Nathan Ward <nr...@cox.net>.
I'm not sure that this is it, but you might try setting the JVM min and max
memory limits when starting Tomcat by adding the following to
$CATALINA_HOME\bin\catalina.bat:
set JAVA_OPS = -Xms100m -Xmx100m
Default for the JVM I believe should be 64mb, but who knows.
Why are you using jdk 1.3.1? Do you have existing code that is not
compatible with jdk 1.4? We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 as a service under
Windows 2000 Server accessing an SQL Server database on the same machine
with JDK 1.4.1_01 and it is working.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Porter" <ro...@pobox.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Tomcat 4.1x running as NT Service Issue
I have scanned all the archives, and have seen some issues that are similar
but not quite the same so I am posting this request.
We are running Tomcat 4.1.24 Binary release, as a Service on Windows 2000
SP3 and SP4 Pro version. No JSP just servlets. The Tomcat instance is
hosting 2 servlets that talk to a local SQL Server 2000 database on the same
machine. A VB 6 client is talking to the servlets via http post etc, and
exchanging XML documents for requests and replies.
Running as a Service, with JDK 1.3.1 as the JVM the service will crash after
about 10 minutes of activity. Just prior to the crash, available memory will
decrease to 0 and the system will slow to a crawl with a lot of disk
activity, paging I imagine.
Running Tomcat in a window alleviates the problem entirely, so I am assuming
there are some parameters that are being passed via the Startup.bat file
that are not happening with the service. Or perhaps to the JVM, I am very
new to Tomcat so I am not sure how to accomplish this. However we really
want to have Tomcat running as a service since this is a laptop app being
deployed to hundreds of our users, and we don't want them mucking about with
the Window created by running Tomcat as a windowed service.
Plus, having it run as a service means it is one less thing to worry about
in our application code. However we can't deploy the app if it crashes every
10 minutes. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
RP2C Inc
http://www.rp2c.com
robertporter@rp2c.com
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