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Tagging 5.5.20
Ok, with the latest mishap of the native versions, we'll make another
attempt.
I will tag 5.5.20 on Monday, 4pm CST (22.00 GMT)
Filip
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> As long as someone (you probably, as the initiator ;)) is willing to
> maintain this notice, i.e. update it as necessary, I don't see this as
> too big a deal. It's very similar to the startup notice that says the
> APR library was not found on your path and you should consider using
> it for optimal performance (or something like that, near the very
> startup of a Tomcat 5.5 without APR)...
I think something workable would be to say that a newer version is
available, without specifying a version number.
Rémy
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
As long as someone (you probably, as the initiator ;)) is willing to
maintain this notice, i.e. update it as necessary, I don't see this as
too big a deal. It's very similar to the startup notice that says the
APR library was not found on your path and you should consider using
it for optimal performance (or something like that, near the very
startup of a Tomcat 5.5 without APR)...
Yoav
On 9/8/06, Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
> >>
> >> Don't see what's the problem with something like that.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mladen.
> > I'm against such change to, not because of usefulness or not, we're
> > trying to cut a stable release, if you want to do it, do for the next
> > tomcat release.
>
> Then use 1.1.4 if you wish a stable release.
>
> It will work with 1.1.3, but then we'll have a questions
> like 'what version of native you use?'. Is it 1.1.3 or
> you downloaded the latest one.
>
> Having a simple warning on startup:
> "You are using Native version a.b.c. The recommended one is x.y.z"
> Would at least inform the user that there is API compatible
> version that has some upgrades over the one he has currently.
>
> I really don't see what's wrong with that, and why you guys
> made such a noise about it. It's a simple
> note to the user to consider to upgrade his native.
>
> Regards,
> Mladen.
>
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>>
>> Don't see what's the problem with something like that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mladen.
> I'm against such change to, not because of usefulness or not, we're
> trying to cut a stable release, if you want to do it, do for the next
> tomcat release.
Then use 1.1.4 if you wish a stable release.
It will work with 1.1.3, but then we'll have a questions
like 'what version of native you use?'. Is it 1.1.3 or
you downloaded the latest one.
Having a simple warning on startup:
"You are using Native version a.b.c. The recommended one is x.y.z"
Would at least inform the user that there is API compatible
version that has some upgrades over the one he has currently.
I really don't see what's wrong with that, and why you guys
made such a noise about it. It's a simple
note to the user to consider to upgrade his native.
Regards,
Mladen.
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
Mladen Turk wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>> I still don't see much usefulness. 1.1.4 doesn't contain any serious
>> fixes over 1.1.3, but causes a warning.
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native/src/network.c?r1=412388&r2=415547&diff_format=h
>
>
> It doesn't set/restore the timeout for each socket read/write operation
> any more, so it's a performance upgrade.
>
>> If later there's a security issue needing a 1.1.5, there will not be
>> any warning.
>>
>
> But then we'll update the 'recommended' to 1.1.5 in listener.
>
> Really don't get it why are you against such a change.
> In general it means that native will work with 'minimum'
> version (API related), but the particular Tomcat release
> 'recommends at least' the noted version, with any consequitive
> version without warning.
>
> Don't see what's the problem with something like that.
>
> Regards,
> Mladen.
I'm against such change to, not because of usefulness or not, we're
trying to cut a stable release, if you want to do it, do for the next
tomcat release.
Filip
>
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
> I still don't see much usefulness. 1.1.4 doesn't contain any serious
> fixes over 1.1.3, but causes a warning.
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/native/src/network.c?r1=412388&r2=415547&diff_format=h
It doesn't set/restore the timeout for each socket read/write operation
any more, so it's a performance upgrade.
> If later there's a security
> issue needing a 1.1.5, there will not be any warning.
>
But then we'll update the 'recommended' to 1.1.5 in listener.
Really don't get it why are you against such a change.
In general it means that native will work with 'minimum'
version (API related), but the particular Tomcat release
'recommends at least' the noted version, with any consequitive
version without warning.
Don't see what's the problem with something like that.
Regards,
Mladen.
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Mladen Turk wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>>
>>> OK. I'll try to refactor the APR listener
>>> so it uses the 'minimum API' (1.1.3) version without
>>> breaking, and issuing a note if the version
>>> is less then 'recommended' (1.1.4).
>>
>> This is useless (and possibly even dangerous) because the
>> "recommended" version may change in the meantime.
>>
>
> I meant:
> Minimum workable: 1.1.3
> Minimum (without warning): 1.1.4
>
> So, the next version (1.1.4+) will not issue
> an warning.
I still don't see much usefulness. 1.1.4 doesn't contain any serious
fixes over 1.1.3, but causes a warning. If later there's a security
issue needing a 1.1.5, there will not be any warning.
Rémy
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>> OK. I'll try to refactor the APR listener
>> so it uses the 'minimum API' (1.1.3) version without
>> breaking, and issuing a note if the version
>> is less then 'recommended' (1.1.4).
>
> This is useless (and possibly even dangerous) because the "recommended"
> version may change in the meantime.
>
I meant:
Minimum workable: 1.1.3
Minimum (without warning): 1.1.4
So, the next version (1.1.4+) will not issue
an warning.
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Mladen.
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Mladen Turk wrote:
> Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>> Ok, with the latest mishap of the native versions, we'll make another
>> attempt.
>> I will tag 5.5.20 on Monday, 4pm CST (22.00 GMT)
>>
>
> OK. I'll try to refactor the APR listener
> so it uses the 'minimum API' (1.1.3) version without
> breaking, and issuing a note if the version
> is less then 'recommended' (1.1.4).
This is useless (and possibly even dangerous) because the "recommended"
version may change in the meantime.
Rémy
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Re: Tagging 5.5.20
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
> Ok, with the latest mishap of the native versions, we'll make another
> attempt.
> I will tag 5.5.20 on Monday, 4pm CST (22.00 GMT)
>
OK. I'll try to refactor the APR listener
so it uses the 'minimum API' (1.1.3) version without
breaking, and issuing a note if the version
is less then 'recommended' (1.1.4).
Regards,
Mladen.
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