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Posted to dev@lucenenet.apache.org by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> on 2009/03/03 14:42:22 UTC
Re: Graduation
Any thoughts on this? I really believe .NET is close (if not ready)
to graduate. It's been in incubation for a long time now and from
what I can tell it meets much of the criteria below.
On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> Here are the requirements: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
> and are pasted below.
>
> It seems that you don't have to actually release, but you need to
> have release plans. So, what are your plans for release? Can you
> guys provide status on the other stuff? I'm sure you have the
> Alignment stuff down and I'm guessing all the Infrastructure stuff
> is done, since I doubt you need GUMP integration. What about the
> legal stuff? Presumably, y'all have CLAs on file, otherwise you
> wouldn't have an account. Looks like: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucene.net.html
> needs to be updated to reflect that there are now three committers
> and to reflect the other status items.
>
> Being in incubation since 2006 is too long in my book, but it seems
> like you have a decent community here now, and, since you are going
> to be a subproject, I think the standards are a bit different from
> TLP anyway.
>
> Can we work to get this going? Looks like most of it should just be
> some bookkeeping at this point.
>
> Thanks,
> Grant
>
> <snip url="http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
> ">
>
> * Legal
> *
> o All code ASL'ed
> o The code base must contain only ASL or ASL-compatible
> dependencies
> o License grant complete
> o CLAs on file.
> o Check of project name for trademark issues
>
> * Meritocracy / Community
> *
> o Demonstrate an active and diverse development community
> o The project is not highly dependent on any single
> contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and
> there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of
> the project)
> o The above implies that new committers are admitted
> according to ASF practices
> o ASF style voting has been adopted and is standard practice
> o Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve conflict
> within the community.
> o Release plans are developed and excuted in public by the
> community.
> o
> + (requirement on minimum number of such releases?)
> + Note: incubator projects are not permitted to issue
> an official Release. Test snapshots (however good the quality) and
> Release plans are OK.
> o Engagement by the incubated community with the other ASF
> communities, particularly infrastructure@ (this reflects my personal
> bias that projects should pay an nfrastructure "tax").
> o Incubator PMC has voted for graduation
> o Destination PMC, or ASF Board for a TLP, has voted for
> final acceptance
>
> * Alignment / Synergy
> *
> o Use of other ASF subprojects
> o Develop synergistic relationship with other ASF subprojects
>
> * Infrastructure
> *
> o SVN module has been created
> o Mailing list(s) have been created
> o Mailing lists are being archived
> o Issue tracker has been created
> o Project website has been created
> o Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidelines
> o Project is integrated with GUMP if appropriate
> o Releases are PGP signed by a member of the community
> o Developers tied into ASF PGP web of trust
>
> </snip>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:02 AM, George Aroush wrote:
>
>> Hi Grant,
>>
>> Has the requirement for graduation been relaxed? Just from a release
>> perspective, Lucene.Net has been in incubation since April 2006,
>> and since
>> than we had only one official release, Lucene.Net 2.0 on April
>> 2007. In
>> addition, the new committers, Doug and DIGY don't have any release
>> experience yet.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for graduation, but without a sustained
>> release,
>> I don't think we will be approved.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- George
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:53 AM
>>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Graduation
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> Grant over in PMC land here. Seems like you've got a pretty
>>> good base going and have a few committers, what say you to
>>> thinking about graduation? Can someone take a look into it?
>>> Incubation is not a place to live for a long period of time.
>>> Besides, we want you over in Lucene land full-time!
>>>
>>> Since you are graduating to a sub-project, I believe the
>>> requirements for grad. aren't the same as TLP.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Grant
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>>
>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika)
>>> using Solr/
>>> Lucene:
>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>>>
>>
>
> --------------------------
> Grant Ingersoll
> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>
> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika) using
> Solr/Lucene:
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>
--------------------------
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Re: Graduation
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
I don't know if it is ready for a vote (it may be), but I think we
should make sure our ducks are in a row, first.
On Mar 4, 2009, at 6:31 AM, George Aroush wrote:
> Hi Grant,
>
> I will open this up for a vote, and then take the result of it to
> @incubator.apache.org for final approval.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- George
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Graduation
>>
>> Any thoughts on this? I really believe .NET is close (if not
>> ready) to graduate. It's been in incubation for a long time
>> now and from what I can tell it meets much of the criteria below.
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>
>>> Here are the requirements:
>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/
>> Incubation_Policy.html#Graduati
>>> ng+from+the+Incubator
>>> and are pasted below.
>>>
>>> It seems that you don't have to actually release, but you
>> need to have
>>> release plans. So, what are your plans for release? Can you
>>> guys provide status on the other stuff? I'm sure you have the
>>> Alignment stuff down and I'm guessing all the
>> Infrastructure stuff is
>>> done, since I doubt you need GUMP integration. What about
>> the legal
>>> stuff? Presumably, y'all have CLAs on file, otherwise you wouldn't
>>> have an account. Looks like:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucene.net.html
>>> needs to be updated to reflect that there are now three committers
>>> and to reflect the other status items.
>>>
>>> Being in incubation since 2006 is too long in my book, but it seems
>>> like you have a decent community here now, and, since you
>> are going to
>>> be a subproject, I think the standards are a bit different from TLP
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Can we work to get this going? Looks like most of it
>> should just be
>>> some bookkeeping at this point.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Grant
>>>
>>> <snip
>>>
>> url="http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/
>> Incubation_Policy.html#Gra
>>> duating+from+the+Incubator
>>> ">
>>>
>>> * Legal
>>> *
>>> o All code ASL'ed
>>> o The code base must contain only ASL or ASL-compatible
>>> dependencies
>>> o License grant complete
>>> o CLAs on file.
>>> o Check of project name for trademark issues
>>>
>>> * Meritocracy / Community
>>> *
>>> o Demonstrate an active and diverse development community
>>> o The project is not highly dependent on any single
>>> contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent
>> committers and
>>> there is no single company or entity that is vital to the
>> success of
>>> the project)
>>> o The above implies that new committers are admitted
>>> according to ASF practices
>>> o ASF style voting has been adopted and is
>> standard practice
>>> o Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve
>> conflict within
>>> the community.
>>> o Release plans are developed and excuted in public by the
>>> community.
>>> o
>>> + (requirement on minimum number of such releases?)
>>> + Note: incubator projects are not permitted
>> to issue
>>> an official Release. Test snapshots (however good the quality) and
>>> Release plans are OK.
>>> o Engagement by the incubated community with the other ASF
>>> communities, particularly infrastructure@ (this reflects my
>> personal
>>> bias that projects should pay an nfrastructure "tax").
>>> o Incubator PMC has voted for graduation
>>> o Destination PMC, or ASF Board for a TLP, has voted for
>>> final acceptance
>>>
>>> * Alignment / Synergy
>>> *
>>> o Use of other ASF subprojects
>>> o Develop synergistic relationship with other ASF
>> subprojects
>>>
>>> * Infrastructure
>>> *
>>> o SVN module has been created
>>> o Mailing list(s) have been created
>>> o Mailing lists are being archived
>>> o Issue tracker has been created
>>> o Project website has been created
>>> o Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidelines
>>> o Project is integrated with GUMP if appropriate
>>> o Releases are PGP signed by a member of the community
>>> o Developers tied into ASF PGP web of trust
>>>
>>> </snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:02 AM, George Aroush wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Grant,
>>>>
>>>> Has the requirement for graduation been relaxed? Just
>> from a release
>>>> perspective, Lucene.Net has been in incubation since April
>> 2006, and
>>>> since than we had only one official release, Lucene.Net
>> 2.0 on April
>>>> 2007. In addition, the new committers, Doug and DIGY
>> don't have any
>>>> release experience yet.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for graduation, but without a
>> sustained
>>>> release, I don't think we will be approved.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -- George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:53 AM
>>>>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Graduation
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant over in PMC land here. Seems like you've got a pretty good
>>>>> base going and have a few committers, what say you to
>> thinking about
>>>>> graduation? Can someone take a look into it?
>>>>> Incubation is not a place to live for a long period of time.
>>>>> Besides, we want you over in Lucene land full-time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you are graduating to a sub-project, I believe the
>>>>> requirements for grad. aren't the same as TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika) using
>>>>> Solr/
>>>>> Lucene:
>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>>
>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika) using
>>> Solr/Lucene:
>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>>>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> Grant Ingersoll
>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>
>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids)
>> using Solr/Lucene:
>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>>
>
--------------------------
Grant Ingersoll
http://www.lucidimagination.com/
Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids)
using Solr/Lucene:
http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
RE: Graduation
Posted by George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net>.
Hi Grant,
I will open this up for a vote, and then take the result of it to
@incubator.apache.org for final approval.
Regards,
-- George
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Graduation
>
> Any thoughts on this? I really believe .NET is close (if not
> ready) to graduate. It's been in incubation for a long time
> now and from what I can tell it meets much of the criteria below.
>
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
> > Here are the requirements:
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduati
> > ng+from+the+Incubator
> > and are pasted below.
> >
> > It seems that you don't have to actually release, but you
> need to have
> > release plans. So, what are your plans for release? Can you
> > guys provide status on the other stuff? I'm sure you have the
> > Alignment stuff down and I'm guessing all the
> Infrastructure stuff is
> > done, since I doubt you need GUMP integration. What about
> the legal
> > stuff? Presumably, y'all have CLAs on file, otherwise you wouldn't
> > have an account. Looks like:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucene.net.html
> > needs to be updated to reflect that there are now three committers
> > and to reflect the other status items.
> >
> > Being in incubation since 2006 is too long in my book, but it seems
> > like you have a decent community here now, and, since you
> are going to
> > be a subproject, I think the standards are a bit different from TLP
> > anyway.
> >
> > Can we work to get this going? Looks like most of it
> should just be
> > some bookkeeping at this point.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Grant
> >
> > <snip
> >
> url="http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Gra
> > duating+from+the+Incubator
> > ">
> >
> > * Legal
> > *
> > o All code ASL'ed
> > o The code base must contain only ASL or ASL-compatible
> > dependencies
> > o License grant complete
> > o CLAs on file.
> > o Check of project name for trademark issues
> >
> > * Meritocracy / Community
> > *
> > o Demonstrate an active and diverse development community
> > o The project is not highly dependent on any single
> > contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent
> committers and
> > there is no single company or entity that is vital to the
> success of
> > the project)
> > o The above implies that new committers are admitted
> > according to ASF practices
> > o ASF style voting has been adopted and is
> standard practice
> > o Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve
> conflict within
> > the community.
> > o Release plans are developed and excuted in public by the
> > community.
> > o
> > + (requirement on minimum number of such releases?)
> > + Note: incubator projects are not permitted
> to issue
> > an official Release. Test snapshots (however good the quality) and
> > Release plans are OK.
> > o Engagement by the incubated community with the other ASF
> > communities, particularly infrastructure@ (this reflects my
> personal
> > bias that projects should pay an nfrastructure "tax").
> > o Incubator PMC has voted for graduation
> > o Destination PMC, or ASF Board for a TLP, has voted for
> > final acceptance
> >
> > * Alignment / Synergy
> > *
> > o Use of other ASF subprojects
> > o Develop synergistic relationship with other ASF
> subprojects
> >
> > * Infrastructure
> > *
> > o SVN module has been created
> > o Mailing list(s) have been created
> > o Mailing lists are being archived
> > o Issue tracker has been created
> > o Project website has been created
> > o Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidelines
> > o Project is integrated with GUMP if appropriate
> > o Releases are PGP signed by a member of the community
> > o Developers tied into ASF PGP web of trust
> >
> > </snip>
> >
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:02 AM, George Aroush wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Grant,
> >>
> >> Has the requirement for graduation been relaxed? Just
> from a release
> >> perspective, Lucene.Net has been in incubation since April
> 2006, and
> >> since than we had only one official release, Lucene.Net
> 2.0 on April
> >> 2007. In addition, the new committers, Doug and DIGY
> don't have any
> >> release experience yet.
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for graduation, but without a
> sustained
> >> release, I don't think we will be approved.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -- George
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:53 AM
> >>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Graduation
> >>>
> >>> Hey Guys,
> >>>
> >>> Grant over in PMC land here. Seems like you've got a pretty good
> >>> base going and have a few committers, what say you to
> thinking about
> >>> graduation? Can someone take a look into it?
> >>> Incubation is not a place to live for a long period of time.
> >>> Besides, we want you over in Lucene land full-time!
> >>>
> >>> Since you are graduating to a sub-project, I believe the
> >>> requirements for grad. aren't the same as TLP.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Grant
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------
> >>> Grant Ingersoll
> >>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
> >>>
> >>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika) using
> >>> Solr/
> >>> Lucene:
> >>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > --------------------------
> > Grant Ingersoll
> > http://www.lucidimagination.com/
> >
> > Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika) using
> > Solr/Lucene:
> > http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
> >
>
> --------------------------
> Grant Ingersoll
> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>
> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids)
> using Solr/Lucene:
> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>