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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> on 2014/11/29 20:55:50 UTC
RE: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a bit lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what Corinthia is for without over/under-stepping.
Here is the text also added to <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
"""
Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation through an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file formats is expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in JavaScript and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also adapts across device form factors for practical use on mobile devices, tablets, and touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces. Corinthia document viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited to common, widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive substitute for format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form printing/production software.
To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents, Corinthia encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can be recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the same or different format.
Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of different formats for dependable import and export involves development of extensive test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of the extent to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that impact convertibility.
All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development, libraries, and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All development of source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for multi-platform compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other programming models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document format file import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export extensions used with other document-processing software.
"""
-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
Hi all.
We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative sign
!
In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple of
things have happened:
- The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
<https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
- Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial committer
list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great value
to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our open
issues.
- Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the project. We
look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
- Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested changes.
on behalf of the project
jan i
On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
> There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not suggesting
> any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate format
> approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
> Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
> experience there in using intermediate formats.
>
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
> To: jan i
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
>
> Hi.
>
> Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something with git
> that should not be done.
>
> The correct text is:
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Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 2 December 2014 at 15:18, Monosoft Mapple <a_...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽
>
Wow seems somebody have a very strong picturesque opinion...maybe someone
who wants to sell closed source instead of providing opensource.
Anyway, if a_guccioo has some serious points I expect we will hear from him
in a more serious way, until then I assume the mail to be a mistake.
rgds
jan i.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 30, 26 Heisei, at 3:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a
> bit lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what
> Corinthia is for without over/under-stepping.
> >
> > Here is the text also added to <
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
> >
> > """
> > Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation
> through an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file
> formats is expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
> >
> > Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in
> JavaScript and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also
> adapts across device form factors for practical use on mobile devices,
> tablets, and touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces.
> Corinthia document viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited
> to common, widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive
> substitute for format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form
> printing/production software.
> >
> > To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents,
> Corinthia encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can
> be recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the same
> or different format.
> >
> > Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of
> different formats for dependable import and export involves development of
> extensive test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of
> the extent to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> impact convertibility.
> >
> > All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development,
> libraries, and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All
> development of source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for
> multi-platform compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other
> programming models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document
> format file import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export
> extensions used with other document-processing software.
> > """
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative
> sign
> > !
> >
> > In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple of
> > things have happened:
> >
> > - The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
> > <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
> >
> > - Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial committer
> > list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great value
> > to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our
> open
> > issues.
> >
> > - Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the project.
> We
> > look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
> >
> > - Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
> >
> >
> > We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested
> changes.
> >
> > on behalf of the project
> > jan i
> >
> >
> > On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> > Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not
> suggesting
> >> any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate format
> >> approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
> >> Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
> >> experience there in using intermediate formats.
> >>
> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> >> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
> >> To: jan i
> >> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something with
> git
> >> that should not be done.
> >>
> >> The correct text is:
> > [ ... ]
> >
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
Posted by Monosoft Mapple <a_...@icloud.com>.
🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 30, 26 Heisei, at 3:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org> wrote:
>
> I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a bit lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what Corinthia is for without over/under-stepping.
>
> Here is the text also added to <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
>
> """
> Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation through an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file formats is expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
>
> Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in JavaScript and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also adapts across device form factors for practical use on mobile devices, tablets, and touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces. Corinthia document viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited to common, widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive substitute for format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form printing/production software.
>
> To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents, Corinthia encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can be recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the same or different format.
>
> Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of different formats for dependable import and export involves development of extensive test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of the extent to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that impact convertibility.
>
> All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development, libraries, and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All development of source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for multi-platform compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other programming models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document format file import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export extensions used with other document-processing software.
> """
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
>
> Hi all.
>
> We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative sign
> !
>
> In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple of
> things have happened:
>
> - The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
>
> - Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial committer
> list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great value
> to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our open
> issues.
>
> - Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the project. We
> look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
>
> - Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
>
>
> We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested changes.
>
> on behalf of the project
> jan i
>
>
> On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not suggesting
>> any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate format
>> approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
>> Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
>> experience there in using intermediate formats.
>>
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
>> To: jan i
>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something with git
>> that should not be done.
>>
>> The correct text is:
> [ ... ]
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
Posted by Ian C <ia...@amham.net>.
Hi Jan,
I'm a programmer.
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:25 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks for your interest in our project. The initial list of committers is
> still open for a couple of days so you dont need to wait.
>
> time is short for all of us, so the more people we are, the more we can
> achieve "work smarter not harder".
>
> what is your main interest, programming, test documentation?
>
> looking forward to see you in the project.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> On Sunday, November 30, 2014, Ian C <ia...@amham.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am intrigued by this project. And will sign up once it becomes
> available
> > a real Apache project.
> >
> > Same as for everyone, making time is the killer...
> >
> > As something of an amusing sideline I created a document in Google Drive
> > and downloaded it as an odt. Looking inside, eeks, each word is in its
> own
> > span?
> > Opening and saving in OpenOffice seems to restore some sanity. I did the
> > same in docx ... This project will have its work cut out...
> >
> > Even more interested now...
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> > dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a
> > bit
> > > lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what
> > Corinthia
> > > is for without over/under-stepping.
> > >
> > > Here is the text also added to <
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
> > >
> > > """
> > > Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation
> through
> > > an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file formats
> is
> > > expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
> > >
> > > Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in
> > JavaScript
> > > and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also adapts
> > across
> > > device form factors for practical use on mobile devices, tablets, and
> > > touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces. Corinthia
> > document
> > > viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited to common,
> > > widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive substitute
> > for
> > > format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form printing/production
> > > software.
> > >
> > > To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents,
> Corinthia
> > > encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can be
> > > recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the
> same
> > or
> > > different format.
> > >
> > > Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of
> > different
> > > formats for dependable import and export involves development of
> > extensive
> > > test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of the
> > extent
> > > to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> > > identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> > > impact convertibility.
> > >
> > > All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development,
> > libraries,
> > > and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All
> development
> > of
> > > source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for multi-platform
> > > compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other programming
> > > models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document format
> > file
> > > import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export extensions
> > used
> > > with other document-processing software.
> > > """
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> > >
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative
> > sign
> > > !
> > >
> > > In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple
> of
> > > things have happened:
> > >
> > > - The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
> > > <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
> > >
> > > - Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial
> committer
> > > list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great
> value
> > > to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our
> > open
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > - Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the
> project.
> > We
> > > look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
> > >
> > > - Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
> > >
> > >
> > > We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested
> > changes.
> > >
> > > on behalf of the project
> > > jan i
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> > > Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not
> > suggesting
> > > > any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate
> format
> > > > approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
> > > > Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
> > > > experience there in using intermediate formats.
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> > > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
> > > > To: jan i
> > > > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something
> with
> > > git
> > > > that should not be done.
> > > >
> > > > The correct text is:
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > <javascript:;>
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > <javascript:;>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ian C
> >
>
>
> --
> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
>
--
Cheers,
Ian C
Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi
Thanks for your interest in our project. The initial list of committers is
still open for a couple of days so you dont need to wait.
time is short for all of us, so the more people we are, the more we can
achieve "work smarter not harder".
what is your main interest, programming, test documentation?
looking forward to see you in the project.
rgds
jan i
On Sunday, November 30, 2014, Ian C <ia...@amham.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am intrigued by this project. And will sign up once it becomes available
> a real Apache project.
>
> Same as for everyone, making time is the killer...
>
> As something of an amusing sideline I created a document in Google Drive
> and downloaded it as an odt. Looking inside, eeks, each word is in its own
> span?
> Opening and saving in OpenOffice seems to restore some sanity. I did the
> same in docx ... This project will have its work cut out...
>
> Even more interested now...
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>
> > wrote:
>
> > I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a
> bit
> > lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what
> Corinthia
> > is for without over/under-stepping.
> >
> > Here is the text also added to <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
> >
> > """
> > Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation through
> > an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file formats is
> > expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
> >
> > Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in
> JavaScript
> > and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also adapts
> across
> > device form factors for practical use on mobile devices, tablets, and
> > touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces. Corinthia
> document
> > viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited to common,
> > widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive substitute
> for
> > format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form printing/production
> > software.
> >
> > To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents, Corinthia
> > encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can be
> > recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the same
> or
> > different format.
> >
> > Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of
> different
> > formats for dependable import and export involves development of
> extensive
> > test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of the
> extent
> > to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> > identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> > impact convertibility.
> >
> > All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development,
> libraries,
> > and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All development
> of
> > source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for multi-platform
> > compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other programming
> > models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document format
> file
> > import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export extensions
> used
> > with other document-processing software.
> > """
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative
> sign
> > !
> >
> > In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple of
> > things have happened:
> >
> > - The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
> > <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
> >
> > - Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial committer
> > list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great value
> > to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our
> open
> > issues.
> >
> > - Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the project.
> We
> > look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
> >
> > - Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
> >
> >
> > We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested
> changes.
> >
> > on behalf of the project
> > jan i
> >
> >
> > On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> > Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not
> suggesting
> > > any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate format
> > > approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
> > > Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
> > > experience there in using intermediate formats.
> > >
> > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> > > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
> > > To: jan i
> > > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something with
> > git
> > > that should not be done.
> > >
> > > The correct text is:
> > [ ... ]
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> <javascript:;>
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> <javascript:;>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Ian C
>
--
Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia Abstract
Posted by Ian C <ia...@amham.net>.
Hi All,
I am intrigued by this project. And will sign up once it becomes available
a real Apache project.
Same as for everyone, making time is the killer...
As something of an amusing sideline I created a document in Google Drive
and downloaded it as an odt. Looking inside, eeks, each word is in its own
span?
Opening and saving in OpenOffice seems to restore some sanity. I did the
same in docx ... This project will have its work cut out...
Even more interested now...
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> wrote:
> I put together an abstract in the Corinthia Podling Proposal. It is a bit
> lengthy and requires review that it captures the essence of what Corinthia
> is for without over/under-stepping.
>
> Here is the text also added to <
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>,
>
> """
> Corinthia converts among document file formats via transformation through
> an HTML-grounded intermediary. The selection of document file formats is
> expandable by addition of import and export plugins.
>
> Editing in Corinthia is via a responsive editor, implemented in JavaScript
> and HTML (CSS), that works on the web, in the cloud, and also adapts across
> device form factors for practical use on mobile devices, tablets, and
> touch-enabled as well as keyboard-oriented interfaces. Corinthia document
> viewing and editing is on the intermediate form, limited to common,
> widely-supported features. Corinthia is not a comprehensive substitute for
> format-specific authoring, editing, and final-form printing/production
> software.
>
> To avoid irreversible loss of features from imported documents, Corinthia
> encapsulates unsupported feature occurrences in a form that can be
> recovered from the intermediate as part of subsequent export to the same or
> different format.
>
> Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of different
> formats for dependable import and export involves development of extensive
> test documents in the different formats. There is profiling of the extent
> to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> impact convertibility.
>
> All of the Corinthia test cases, profiling, plugin development, libraries,
> and utilities are reusable resources to other projects. All development of
> source-code for binaries is in portable C Language for multi-platform
> compilation as well as API "wrapping" for delivery to other programming
> models, such as for Python, .NET, Java, and Node.js. Document format file
> import and export plugins may be adaptable as import-export extensions used
> with other document-processing software.
> """
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 03:13
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
>
> Hi all.
>
> We, at the project, hope that the lack of discussion is not a negative sign
> !
>
> In the meantime, we have been working behind the scenes, and a couple of
> things have happened:
>
> - The proposal is now on the incubator wiki / corinthiaProposal
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal>
>
> - Dennis Hamilton (incubator, aoo committer) joined the initial committer
> list. His expertise in especially document formats will be of great value
> to the project, Dennis is also providing a lot of good feedback on our open
> issues.
>
> - Daniel Gruno (Humbedooh) has volunteered to be mentor for the project. We
> look forward to guidance in all the tricky "paper work".
>
> - Talks are being prepared for ACNA.
>
>
> We are more than happy to answer any questions and make requested changes.
>
> on behalf of the project
> jan i
>
>
> On 24 November 2014 at 22:14, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > There are some passing similarities with Forrest here. I'm not suggesting
> > any changes to the proposal, just flagging that the intermediate format
> > approach described here is the approach Forrest takes. The focus for
> > Forrest was not on document format conversion but there is a lot of
> > experience there in using intermediate formats.
> >
> > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
> > To: jan i
> > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] [DISCUSSION] Corinthia for Incubation.
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > Sorry, somebody hit me with the big GIT hammer !! I did something with
> git
> > that should not be done.
> >
> > The correct text is:
> [ ... ]
>
>
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Cheers,
Ian C