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Posted to java-dev@axis.apache.org by Deep Ghosh <de...@yahoo.com> on 2006/07/19 02:37:54 UTC
AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
All,
I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis its more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a batch/shell file in
DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java classes.. so have a list of class files.
Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff without telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you have developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone knows that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you should let the user what happens?
So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this damn thing is deployed.
Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET form to run my web service.
When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I will see them doing the same mistakes.
Best Regards,
Deep
Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals) - Help us
Posted by Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>.
First lessson before using Axis should have been to understand the idea
behind opensource. According to www.opensource.org,
"The basic idea behind open source is very simple: When programmers can
read, redistribute, and modify the source code for a piece of software,
the software evolves. People improve it, people adapt it, people fix
bugs..."
So if you feel uncomfortable with current Axis, please help us to
improve it. Thats how Axis evolved so far. It was not one company or
small set of people who developed it. Its the community that behind in
any Apache and open-source projects made any project successful and
thats the simple reason why we value the community a lot in Apache.
Mr. Deep Ghosh, continue to give feedback like this to Axis or any other
project. You might even want to help contribute to Axis from your vast
experiences. We are happy to accept any valuable contributions, as that
benefits our community as a whole.
-- Chinthaka
Deep Ghosh wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis
> its more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
>
> Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have
> expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a
> batch/shell file in
> DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
>
> So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
>
> Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java
> classes.. so have a list of class files.
>
> Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
>
> Used the section *Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in
> http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
> <http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis>*
> **
> * This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff
> without telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff
> you have developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.*
> **
> * AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone
> knows that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you
> should let the user what happens?*
> **
> * * So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this
> damn thing is deployed.
>
> Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET
> form to run my web service.
>
> When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I
> will see them doing the same mistakes.
>
> Best Regards,
> Deep
>
>
Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
Posted by Jaliya Ekanayake <jn...@gmail.com>.
Hi Deep,
I did not write the document but since that guy has written it, EVEN YOU could deploy a service ;)
Why we explain more stuff is because we develop "Open Source" software" and the not proprietary stuff. May be in Microsoft you would teach people to "Click" "Then Click" and "Click" ....
What we do is try to give an insight of what is happening so that someone else will improve and continue the work.
-Jaliya
----- Original Message -----
From: Deep Ghosh
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org ; jira@apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
All,
I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis its more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a batch/shell file in
DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java classes.. so have a list of class files.
Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff without telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you have developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone knows that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you should let the user what happens?
So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this damn thing is deployed.
Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET form to run my web service.
When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I will see them doing the same mistakes.
Best Regards,
Deep
Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
Posted by "Hariharasudhan.D Dhakshinamoorthy" <ha...@gmail.com>.
People who where working on "Cut Copy Paste" Technologies oh sorry
microsoft technologies will find it hard .., learn some programming dude..
Be a Real Programmer
;-)
haris .....
~open source rocks ~
On 7/19/06, Peter Sansky <ps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You are frustrated, while the rest of the world happily using it.
> Pete
>
>
> On 7/19/06, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the constructive feedback!
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> > On 7/18/06, Deep Ghosh < deepghosh@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis
> > its
> > > more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
> > >
> > > Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have
> > > expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a
> > batch/shell
> > > file in
> > > DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
> > >
> > > So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
> > >
> > > Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java
> > > classes.. so have a list of class files.
> > >
> > > Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
> > >
> > > Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in
> > > http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
> >
> > >
> > > This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff
> > without
> > > telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you
> > have
> > > developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
> > >
> > > AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone
> > knows
> > > that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you
> > should let
> > > the user what happens?
> > >
> > > So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this
> > damn
> > > thing is deployed.
> > >
> > > Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET
> > <http://asp.net/>form
> > > to run my web service.
> > >
> > > When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I
> > will
> > > see them doing the same mistakes.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Deep
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service
> > Developers)
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
Posted by Peter Sansky <ps...@gmail.com>.
You are frustrated, while the rest of the world happily using it.
Pete
On 7/19/06, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the constructive feedback!
>
> -- dims
>
> On 7/18/06, Deep Ghosh <de...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis
> its
> > more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
> >
> > Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have
> > expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a
> batch/shell
> > file in
> > DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
> >
> > So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
> >
> > Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java
> > classes.. so have a list of class files.
> >
> > Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
> >
> > Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in
> >
> http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
> >
> > This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff
> without
> > telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you
> have
> > developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
> >
> > AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone
> knows
> > that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you should
> let
> > the user what happens?
> >
> > So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this
> damn
> > thing is deployed.
> >
> > Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NETform
> > to run my web service.
> >
> > When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I
> will
> > see them doing the same mistakes.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Deep
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
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>
>
Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the constructive feedback!
-- dims
On 7/18/06, Deep Ghosh <de...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis its
> more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
>
> Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have
> expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a batch/shell
> file in
> DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
>
> So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
>
> Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java
> classes.. so have a list of class files.
>
> Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
>
> Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in
> http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
>
> This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff without
> telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you have
> developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
>
> AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone knows
> that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you should let
> the user what happens?
>
> So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this damn
> thing is deployed.
>
> Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET form
> to run my web service.
>
> When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I will
> see them doing the same mistakes.
>
> Best Regards,
> Deep
>
>
>
--
Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)
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Re: AXIS SUCKS (In Capitals)
Posted by Jesse Sightler <js...@gmail.com>.
Try doing it in .Net w/o visual studio, and you will realize that the
chief difference is simply the lack of decent shell scripts to help
you in the Axis install.
As to why Axis developers aren't interested in writing those basic
batch files, I don't really know.
Thanks,
Jess
On 7/18/06, Deep Ghosh <de...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I could generate a Microsoft web service in 5 minutes and with axis its
> more than 5 hours so far. Thus the Subject.
>
> Generating wsdl2java was pretty ok (Although in Windows I would have
> expected a Program Menu Item to do such thing...or at least a batch/shell
> file in
> DOS/UNIX but you guys will never learn that.
>
> So...ran wsdl2java and got a bunch of classes. Now what?
>
> Agree jws deployment is smart...but I have compiled a bunch of java
> classes.. so have a list of class files.
>
> Used AdminClient to deploy the wsdd.
>
> Used the section Custom Deployment - Introducing WSDD in
> http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/user-guide.html#PublishingWebServicesWithAxis
>
> This is written by a moron. Rules : Dont write a bunch of stuff without
> telling what needs to be done. I know you are proud of the stuff you have
> developed but all the user cares is about how to use it and quick.
>
> AdminClient says....<Admin>Done processing</Admin>. Yes, everyone knows
> that. Did someone teach this guy that if you write a program, you should let
> the user what happens?
>
> So now..i have these bunch of classes. I dont know to what URL this damn
> thing is deployed.
>
> Whereas in Microsoft, they would start the URL and create a ASP.NET form
> to run my web service.
>
> When will this apache people grow up? I am sure ten years letter I will
> see them doing the same mistakes.
>
> Best Regards,
> Deep
>
>
>
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