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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> on 2004/07/06 17:23:33 UTC
Publication Scratchpad (was: Wiki-style editor)
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Peter Shipley wrote:
>
>> Anyone come across the a wiki-style editor for lenya/cocoon ?
>
>
>
> I have started a Lenya Wiki publication based on Chaperon, but don't
> find the
> time currently to finish it.
>
> I can checkin what I have so far and set the publication to
> lenya:show=false
> such that people wouldnt notice, but "developers" could work on it.
Is it possible to create a repository at Apache for
publication development? I would also like to start
an open source publication, but not as a sample within
the Lenya distribution.
If we don't get a repository, maybe something like
/cocoon-lenya/scratchpad
could be considered?
-- Andreas
> I think a Lenya Wiki publication would be great for various reasons and
> it would be very cool if other people would help on developing it.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Michi
>
>>
>>
>> It would be something that requires very simple formatting in a html
>> text area to produce html. No fancy JavaScript or anything - dead simple.
>>
>> So far I have come across this
>> http://rossel.free.fr/projects/wikiland/ but wondered if there was any
>> others I might be missing.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pete
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
If it is maintained it should be activated or added to the distribution. Perhaps
for 1.2.1 ?
Andreas
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From: "Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Publication Scratchpad
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
> >
> > while we are on the topic: what about the unmaintained oscom publication?
>
>
> it's not unmaintained. I recently fixed a lot of stuff and especially
> the Matrix is a very nice example of the form wizard editor.
> Also Lucene is indexing the XML and not just the HTML, and on and on ....
>
> But on the other hand it doesn't help because people don't see it and
> won't be able to learn from it, because the lenya:show="false" is set.
>
> I think this is very destructive if that was the intention.
>
> So, either we turn it on again or remove it from CVS resp. move it to
> oscom.org
>
> I will initialize a vote on this.
>
> Michi
>
>
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
If it is maintained it should be activated or added to the distribution. Perhaps
for 1.2.1 ?
Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.com>
To: "Lenya Users List" <le...@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Publication Scratchpad
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
> >
> > while we are on the topic: what about the unmaintained oscom publication?
>
>
> it's not unmaintained. I recently fixed a lot of stuff and especially
> the Matrix is a very nice example of the form wizard editor.
> Also Lucene is indexing the XML and not just the HTML, and on and on ....
>
> But on the other hand it doesn't help because people don't see it and
> won't be able to learn from it, because the lenya:show="false" is set.
>
> I think this is very destructive if that was the intention.
>
> So, either we turn it on again or remove it from CVS resp. move it to
> oscom.org
>
> I will initialize a vote on this.
>
> Michi
>
>
> --
> Michael Wechner
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://www.wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
> michael.wechner@wyona.com michi@apache.org
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
> while we are on the topic: what about the unmaintained oscom publication?
it's not unmaintained. I recently fixed a lot of stuff and especially
the Matrix is a very nice example of the form wizard editor.
Also Lucene is indexing the XML and not just the HTML, and on and on ....
But on the other hand it doesn't help because people don't see it and
won't be able to learn from it, because the lenya:show="false" is set.
I think this is very destructive if that was the intention.
So, either we turn it on again or remove it from CVS resp. move it to
oscom.org
I will initialize a vote on this.
Michi
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Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> But including them in our CVS will raise the question of
> maintenance again. We had lots of those discussions before ...
-1 on inclusion.
while we are on the topic: what about the unmaintained oscom publication?
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>>
>> Much better :)
>>
>> But including them in our CVS will raise the question of
>> maintenance again. We had lots of those discussions before ...
>
>
> I know.
>
> Before we start again on this topic, I will host the Wiki Publication at
> wyona.org and make it public. Everyone who wants to join as a developer
> just needs to tell me. If we get enough momentum, then we can cast a
> vote on moving
> it into Lenya as a sample publication.
>
I want to join if possible! Would it be possible to use a forrest pub
structure for that? ;-)
> Another solution for the future might be that Lenya itself is hosting
> the publications/publets as "subsubprojects", but we would have to
> discuss this first with the Cocoon PMC
>
I reckon before that we should try to get out of the incubator first.
AFAIK Steven said something like he thinks that lenya seems to be ready
to leave the incubator
(http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=lenya-dev@cocoon.apache.org&msgId=1703869).
After that I think subprojects would be the best place to develope this
special publication!
WDYT?
thorsten
> Thanks
>
> Michi
>
>>
>> -- Andreas
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
> Much better :)
>
> But including them in our CVS will raise the question of
> maintenance again. We had lots of those discussions before ...
I know.
Before we start again on this topic, I will host the Wiki Publication at
wyona.org and make it public. Everyone who wants to join as a developer
just needs to tell me. If we get enough momentum, then we can cast a
vote on moving
it into Lenya as a sample publication.
Another solution for the future might be that Lenya itself is hosting
the publications/publets as "subsubprojects", but we would have to
discuss this first with the Cocoon PMC
Thanks
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it possible to create a repository at Apache for
>> publication development? I would alsolike to start
>> an open source publication, but not as a sample within
>> the Lenya distribution.
>
>
>
> you could also put it on sourceforge or something similar
OK, I should consider that
>>
>> If we don't get a repository, maybe something like
>>
>> /cocoon-lenya/scratchpad
>>
>> could be considered?
>
>
>
> or rather
>
> cocoon-lenya/src/webapp/lenya/scratchpad-pubs
Much better :)
But including them in our CVS will raise the question of
maintenance again. We had lots of those discussions before ...
-- Andreas
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Re: Publication Scratchpad
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
> Is it possible to create a repository at Apache for
> publication development? I would alsolike to start
> an open source publication, but not as a sample within
> the Lenya distribution.
you could also put it on sourceforge or something similar
>
> If we don't get a repository, maybe something like
>
> /cocoon-lenya/scratchpad
>
> could be considered?
or rather
cocoon-lenya/src/webapp/lenya/scratchpad-pubs
WDYT?
Michi
>
> -- Andreas
>
>> I think a Lenya Wiki publication would be great for various reasons and
>> it would be very cool if other people would help on developing it.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be something that requires very simple formatting in a html
>>> text area to produce html. No fancy JavaScript or anything - dead
>>> simple.
>>>
>>> So far I have come across this
>>> http://rossel.free.fr/projects/wikiland/ but wondered if there was
>>> any others I might be missing.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
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