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Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Hi,

How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?

Best regards,
Lukas

Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM,  <jo...@aol.com> wrote:
> -1 on release early & often.
>

John, don't worry we won't do 6 or 8 a month. I think we rather
balance it with the features / bugfixes we can deliver. I think 1
every two month is a good rough estimate.

simon
>
> Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that
> many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a
> release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a
> release will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not
> only that, more releases means more release specific questions.  Expect to
> see questions / issues reported and you must ask "what version are you
> using?" before you can answer.
>
>
> May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a
> quarter?
>
>
> -JM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
>> release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
>> shoved in.
>
> +1 - release early & often!!!
>
> simon
>>
>> I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
>> this can happen!
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <ja...@hoydahl.no> wrote:
>>> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within
> reach, wait for that!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
>>> Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com
>>>
>>> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>>>>
>>>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>>>>> 3.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike McCandless
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>>>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>>>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
There will be a balance over time. Perhaps we as a community need to prove that we can do frequent releases after such a long delay between 1.4.1 and 3.1 :) And by all means - we should. But whether it becomes 3.X.Y or 3.X+1 should be determined by whether it's some real new meat in there or mainly a bugfix release. If we release 3.3 with grouping and then find a major grouping bug a week later, we should be free to release 3.3.1 with bugfixes only, without needing to release any and all new stuff that happens to be committed to 3.x branch the last couple of days.

I'm not for super strict schedules, nor am I for randomly throwing out X.Y releases every month, confusing customers. Someone suggested in another thread to setup a preliminary loose roadmap with quarterly releases so that we all have some idea that we're all preparing for 3.X scheduled for, say, August-ish, and then 3.X+1 November-ish. I like that, and it won't stop us from adding or skipping a release if enough people feel that's justified. Also the idea of the RM sending out an email with a 1-2-week notice before the first RC is being produced, will let the community wrap things up. Of course this should never be an excuse for squeezing in immature code. The next train will come around soon enough anyway...

--
Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com

On 21. juni 2011, at 20.33, DM Smith wrote:

> On 06/21/2011 02:01 PM, johnmunir@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> My bad, I meant to say a “6-8 releases a year” .. grrr!!
>> So let me try this again. I don't like the current plan of "release early & often" because:
>> 1) It will spread testing thin of any release because fewer real users will be using a release when you have too many a year.
> I don't follow. With a release early and often rational, there will be less changes in each release. Less to test. The testing of lucene is phenomenal and improving with each release.
> 
>> 2) "release early & often" is not a well defined production release. It will lead to undefined gaps between releases (why X.Y took N weeks, but X.Z took M months?). This is why I suggested a quarterly release plan (it's what FF is now doing)
> I think that the pendulum needs to swing and find its natural balance. If there is a cost to frequent releases that is unacceptable, it will all balance out in the end.
>> 3) Do companies jump on a Lucene release as soon as one is made?  No, they have a process.  With too many releasees, they will now be more confused which releases to use; they want a release that proved itself.
> I can't comment on how all companies do upgrades, but in my experience the companies I've been with don't upgrade without a business reason. Basically, if the current works then don't upgrade. If the new provides a necessary feature for a specific requirement, then determine the risk/cost/benefit and decide on whether to upgrade. But at the point of upgrade go with the current best. I don't see how there would be confusion until 4.0 is released.
> 
> In my specific application, upgrades to Lucene happen when my application has a feature release and/or a bug release in it's use of Lucene. It just doesn't make sense to have an app release that does not give specific, visible benefit to end users.
> 
>> --MJ
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Cc: simon.willnauer@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 1:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>> 
>> I think we might target fewer than 6-8 a month. That would be scary! I would
>> guess it will be once a month at worse, and often less. Time will tell.
>> 
>> You must already give version info with questions if you want decent help -
>> nothing is going to change that.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM,johnmunir@aol.com  <ma...@aol.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> >  -1 on release early&  often.
>> >
>> >
>> >  Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that
>> many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a
>> release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a release
>> will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that, more
>> releases means more releasespecific  questions.  Expect to see questions /
>> issues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you can
>> answer.
>> >
>> >
>> >  May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a quarter?
>> >
>> >
>> >  -JM
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: Simon Willnauer<simon.willnauer@googlemail.com  <ma...@googlemail.com>>
>> >  To:dev@lucene.apache.org  <ma...@lucene.apache.org>
>> >  Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
>> >  Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>> >
>> >  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir<rcmuir@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
>> >  >  wrote:
>> >  >  Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
>> >  >  release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
>> >  >  shoved in.
>> >
>> >  +1 - release early&  often!!!
>> >
>> >  simon
>> >  >
>> >  >  I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
>> >  >  this can happen!
>> >  >
>> >  >  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl<
>> >  jan@hoydahl.no  <ma...@hoydahl.no>
>> >  >  wrote:
>> >  >>  Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within
>> >  reach, wait for that!
>> >  >>
>> >  >>  --
>> >  >>  Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>> >  >>  Cominvent AS -
>> >  www.cominvent.com  <http://www.cominvent.com/>
>> >
>> >  >>  Solr Training -
>> >  www.solrtraining.com  <http://www.solrtraining.com/>
>> >
>> >  >>
>> >  >>  On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>> >  >>
>> >  >>>  +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>> >  >>>
>> >  >>>  On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless"<
>> >  lucene@mikemccandless.com  <ma...@mikemccandless.com>
>> >  >
>> >  >>>  wrote:
>> >  >>>
>> >  >>>>  +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>> >  >>>>  3.2.
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>>  Mike McCandless
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>>
>> >  http://blog.mikemccandless.com  <http://blog.mikemccandless.com/>
>> >
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir<
>> >  rcmuir@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
>> >  >  wrote:
>> >  >>>>>  i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>> >  >>>>>
>> >  >>>>>  we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>> >  >>>>>  to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>> >  >>>>>
>> >  >>>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>> >  >>>>>  <
>> >  simon.willnauer@googlemail.com  <ma...@googlemail.com>
>> >  >  wrote:
>> >  >>>>>>  I would say within the next 3 month.
>> >  >>>>>>
>> >  >>>>>>  Thoughts?
>> >  >>>>>>
>> >  >>>>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček<
>> >  lukas.vlcek@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
>> >  >
>> >  >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >  >>>>>>>  Hi,
>> >  >>>>>>>  How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>> >  >>>>>>>  Best regards,
>> >  >>>>>>>  Lukas
> 
> 
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by DM Smith <dm...@gmail.com>.
On 06/21/2011 02:01 PM, johnmunir@aol.com wrote:
>
> My bad, I meant to say a “6-8 releases a year” .. grrr!!
> So let me try this again. I don't like the current plan of "release 
> early & often" because:
> 1) It will spread testing thin of any release because fewer real users 
> will be using a release when you have too many a year.
I don't follow. With a release early and often rational, there will be 
less changes in each release. Less to test. The testing of lucene is 
phenomenal and improving with each release.

> 2) "release early & often" is not a well defined production release. 
> It will lead to undefined gaps between releases (why X.Y took N weeks, 
> but X.Z took M months?). This is why I suggested a quarterly release 
> plan (it's what FF is now doing)
I think that the pendulum needs to swing and find its natural balance. 
If there is a cost to frequent releases that is unacceptable, it will 
all balance out in the end.
> 3) Do companies jump on a Lucene release as soon as one is made?  No, 
> they have a process.  With too many releasees, they will now be more 
> confused which releases to use; they want a release that proved itself.
I can't comment on how all companies do upgrades, but in my experience 
the companies I've been with don't upgrade without a business reason. 
Basically, if the current works then don't upgrade. If the new provides 
a necessary feature for a specific requirement, then determine the 
risk/cost/benefit and decide on whether to upgrade. But at the point of 
upgrade go with the current best. I don't see how there would be 
confusion until 4.0 is released.

In my specific application, upgrades to Lucene happen when my 
application has a feature release and/or a bug release in it's use of 
Lucene. It just doesn't make sense to have an app release that does not 
give specific, visible benefit to end users.

> --MJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Cc: simon.willnauer@gmail.com
> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 1:32 pm
> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>
> I think we might target fewer than 6-8 a month. That would be scary! I would
> guess it will be once a month at worse, and often less. Time will tell.
>
> You must already give version info with questions if you want decent help -
> nothing is going to change that.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM,johnmunir@aol.com  <ma...@aol.com>  wrote:
>
> >  -1 on release early&  often.
> >
> >
> >  Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that
> many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a
> release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a release
> will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that, more
> releases means more releasespecific  questions.  Expect to see questions /
> issues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you can
> answer.
> >
> >
> >  May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a quarter?
> >
> >
> >  -JM
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Simon Willnauer<simon.willnauer@googlemail.com  <ma...@googlemail.com>>
> >  To:dev@lucene.apache.org  <ma...@lucene.apache.org>
> >  Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
> >  Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
> >
> >  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir<rcmuir@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
> >  >  wrote:
> >  >  Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
> >  >  release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
> >  >  shoved in.
> >
> >  +1 - release early&  often!!!
> >
> >  simon
> >  >
> >  >  I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
> >  >  this can happen!
> >  >
> >  >  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl<
> >  jan@hoydahl.no  <ma...@hoydahl.no>
> >  >  wrote:
> >  >>  Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within
> >  reach, wait for that!
> >  >>
> >  >>  --
> >  >>  Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> >  >>  Cominvent AS -
> >  www.cominvent.com  <http://www.cominvent.com/>
> >
> >  >>  Solr Training -
> >  www.solrtraining.com  <http://www.solrtraining.com/>
> >
> >  >>
> >  >>  On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
> >  >>
> >  >>>  +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
> >  >>>
> >  >>>  On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless"<
> >  lucene@mikemccandless.com  <ma...@mikemccandless.com>
> >  >
> >  >>>  wrote:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>>  +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
> >  >>>>  3.2.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>  Mike McCandless
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  http://blog.mikemccandless.com  <http://blog.mikemccandless.com/>
> >
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir<
> >  rcmuir@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
> >  >  wrote:
> >  >>>>>  i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>>  we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
> >  >>>>>  to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
> >  >>>>>  <
> >  simon.willnauer@googlemail.com  <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >  >  wrote:
> >  >>>>>>  I would say within the next 3 month.
> >  >>>>>>
> >  >>>>>>  Thoughts?
> >  >>>>>>
> >  >>>>>>  On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček<
> >  lukas.vlcek@gmail.com  <ma...@gmail.com>
> >  >
> >  >>>>>>  wrote:
> >  >>>>>>>  Hi,
> >  >>>>>>>  How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
> >  >>>>>>>  Best regards,
> >  >>>>>>>  Lukas


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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
And here are the reasons why I think we should release often:

1) As far as corporations worried about stability, if they are really
that worried, they should take a look at our stable branch and how
development is done around here, and these concerned corporations
should also take a look at how testing is done on this project. But in
any case, I could care less what corporations think.

2) The way I see it, we started releasing more often about a month
ago, and we also got a bunch of new committers (5, 6, 7? what is it
exactly?) in the last month too. We have a shitload of guys committing
a shitload of good stuff, and we want even more committers to get more
momentum.  Releasing is an important part of encouraging contributors
so that they see what they do actually getting out there.

3) When I look at http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/ReleaseNote33 and
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/ReleaseNote33, which only release major
features, not bugfixes or anything (see CHANGES.txt for that!), it
looks solid to me. These are major search features that users want,
some of them (e.g. autocomplete and grouping stuff) have been baking
in trunk for quite some time.

4) Finally, we won't make all users or even committers happy with any
given release. Thats why releases only need 3 +1 votes. That being
said, I'm talking about spinning up an RC soon, right before I go on
vacation. Sure we slipped the last one past hossman, but for this one,
its entirely possible he comes back with 87 problems in the release.
Big deal, worst case the RC fails, and if I'm stuck sitting by the
beach fixing everything he finds and making Lucene/Solr better - well,
life could be a lot worse.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:01 PM,  <jo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> My bad, I meant to say a “6-8 releases a year” .. grrr!!
>
> So let me try this again. I don't like the current plan of "release early &
> often" because:
>
> 1) It will spread testing thin of any release because fewer real users will
> be using a release when you have too many a year.
>
> 2) "release early & often" is not a well defined production release. It will
> lead to undefined gaps between releases (why X.Y took N weeks, but X.Z took
> M months?). This is why I suggested a quarterly release plan (it's what FF
> is now doing)
>
> 3) Do companies jump on a Lucene release as soon as one is made?  No, they
> have a process.  With too many releasees, they will now be more confused
> which releases to use; they want a release that proved itself.
>
> --MJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Cc: simon.willnauer@gmail.com
> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 1:32 pm
> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>
> I think we might target fewer than 6-8 a month. That would be scary! I would
> guess it will be once a month at worse, and often less. Time will tell.
>
> You must already give version info with questions if you want decent help -
> nothing is going to change that.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, johnmunir@aol.com wrote:
>
>> -1 on release early & often.
>>
>>
>> Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that
> many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a
> release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a
> release
> will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that,
> more
> releases means more release specific questions.  Expect to see questions /
> issues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you
> can
> answer.
>>
>>
>> May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a
>> quarter?
>>
>>
>> -JM
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
>> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> > Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
>> > release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
>> > shoved in.
>>
>> +1 - release early & often!!!
>>
>> simon
>> >
>> > I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
>> > this can happen!
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <
>> jan@hoydahl.no
>> > wrote:
>> >> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is
>> >> within
>> reach, wait for that!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>> >> Cominvent AS -
>> www.cominvent.com
>>
>> >> Solr Training -
>> www.solrtraining.com
>>
>> >>
>> >> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <
>> lucene@mikemccandless.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff
>> >>>> after
>> >>>> 3.2.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike McCandless
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <
>> rcmuir@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>> >>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>> >>>>> <
>> simon.willnauer@googlemail.com
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thoughts?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <
>> lukas.vlcek@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>> >>>>>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>>>> Lukas
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by jo...@aol.com.

My bad, I meant to say a “6-8 releases a year” .. grrr!!

So let me try this again. I don't like the current plan of "release early & often" because:
So let me try this again. I don't like the current plan of "release early & often" because:

1) It will spread testing thin of any release because fewer real users will be using a release when you have too many a year.

2) "release early & often" is not a well defined production release. It will lead to undefined gaps between releases (why X.Y took N weeks, but X.Z took M months?). This is why I suggested a quarterly release plan (it's what FF is now doing)

3) Do companies jump on a Lucene release as soon as one is made?  No, they have a process.  With too many releasees, they will now be more confused which releases to use; they want a release that proved itself.

--MJ



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
To: dev@lucene.apache.org
Cc: simon.willnauer@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?


I think we might target fewer than 6-8 a month. That would be scary! I would 
uess it will be once a month at worse, and often less. Time will tell. 
You must already give version info with questions if you want decent help - 
othing is going to change that.
- Mark

n Jun 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, johnmunir@aol.com wrote:
> -1 on release early & often.
  
  
 Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that 
any versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a 
elease (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a release 
ill not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that, more 
eleases means more release specific questions.  Expect to see questions / 
ssues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you can 
nswer.
  
  
 May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a quarter?
  
  
 -JM
  
  
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>
 To: dev@lucene.apache.org
 Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
 Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
 
 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com
 > wrote:
 > Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
 > release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
 > shoved in.
 
 +1 - release early & often!!!
 
 simon
 >
 > I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
 > this can happen!
 >
 > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <
 jan@hoydahl.no
 > wrote:
 >> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within 
 reach, wait for that!
 >>
 >> --
 >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
 >> Cominvent AS - 
 www.cominvent.com
 
 >> Solr Training - 
 www.solrtraining.com
 
 >>
 >> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
 >>
 >>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
 >>>
 >>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <
 lucene@mikemccandless.com
 >
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
 >>>> 3.2.
 >>>>
 >>>> Mike McCandless
 >>>>
 >>>> 
 http://blog.mikemccandless.com
 
 >>>>
 >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <
 rcmuir@gmail.com
 > wrote:
 >>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
 >>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
 >>>>> <
 simon.willnauer@googlemail.com
 > wrote:
 >>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Thoughts?
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <
 lukas.vlcek@gmail.com
 >
 >>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
 >>>>>>> Best regards,
 >>>>>>> Lukas
 >>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
I think we might target fewer than 6-8 a month. That would be scary! I would guess it will be once a month at worse, and often less. Time will tell. 

You must already give version info with questions if you want decent help - nothing is going to change that.

- Mark


On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, johnmunir@aol.com wrote:

> -1 on release early & often.
>  
>  
> Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a release will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that, more releases means more release specific questions.  Expect to see questions / issues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you can answer.
>  
>  
> May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a quarter?
>  
>  
> -JM
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
> > release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
> > shoved in.
> 
> +1 - release early & often!!!
> 
> simon
> >
> > I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
> > this can happen!
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <
> jan@hoydahl.no
> > wrote:
> >> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within 
> reach, wait for that!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> >> Cominvent AS - 
> www.cominvent.com
> 
> >> Solr Training - 
> www.solrtraining.com
> 
> >>
> >> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
> >>>
> >>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <
> lucene@mikemccandless.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
> >>>> 3.2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike McCandless
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> 
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <
> rcmuir@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
> >>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
> >>>>> <
> simon.willnauer@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
> >>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <
> lukas.vlcek@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>> Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by jo...@aol.com.
-1 on release early & often.


Let us say you average 6-8 releases a month, this means there will be that many versions used by users.  Which means the amount of testing done on a release (by real users, in real environment) will be spread thin thus a release will not get the same amount of testing it otherwise would.  Not only that, more releases means more release specific questions.  Expect to see questions / issues reported and you must ask "what version are you using?" before you can answer.


May I suggest a scheduled release, once a quarter, near the end of a quarter?


-JM



-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>
To: dev@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?


On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
 Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
 release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
 shoved in.
+1 - release early & often!!!
simon

 I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
 this can happen!

 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <ja...@hoydahl.no> wrote:
> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within 
each, wait for that!
>
> --
> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com
>
> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>
>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>>
>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>>> 3.2.
>>>
>>> Mike McCandless
>>>
>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>>>
>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
> release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
> shoved in.

+1 - release early & often!!!

simon
>
> I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
> this can happen!
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <ja...@hoydahl.no> wrote:
>> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within reach, wait for that!
>>
>> --
>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
>> Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com
>>
>> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>>
>>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>>>
>>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>>>> 3.2.
>>>>
>>>> Mike McCandless
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>>>>
>>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
Again, I don't think any future uncommitted features should block a
release, nor should there be a "shoving" period where features are
shoved in.

I'll be now looking at producing an RC as quickly as possible before
this can happen!

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Jan Høydahl <ja...@hoydahl.no> wrote:
> Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within reach, wait for that!
>
> --
> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com
>
> On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:
>
>> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
>>
>> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>>> 3.2.
>>>
>>> Mike McCandless
>>>
>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>>>
>>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@hoydahl.no>.
Grouping is really worth a release! But if group count in facet is within reach, wait for that!

--
Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com

On 21. juni 2011, at 05.53, Bill Bell wrote:

> +1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!
> 
> On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> +1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>> 3.2.
>> 
>> Mike McCandless
>> 
>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>> 
>>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Bill Bell <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 wait for grouping post facet counts... Go Martijn v Groningen !!

On 6/20/11 12:03 PM, "Michael McCandless" <lu...@mikemccandless.com>
wrote:

>+1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after
>3.2.
>
>Mike McCandless
>
>http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>
>On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>>
>> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
>> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Michael McCandless <lu...@mikemccandless.com>.
+1 to releasing 3.3 in a few weeks... there's a lot of new stuff after 3.2.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.
>
> we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
> to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I would say within the next 3 month.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>>> Best regards,
>>> Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
i was planning on doing an RC in a few weeks actually.

we have a lot of good stuff in there today already, however i wanted
to give a few weeks for the grouping stuff to run on hudson.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Simon Willnauer
<si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would say within the next 3 month.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
>> Best regards,
>> Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>.
That is fine, I just wanted to know when the KStem filter will be part of
stable release.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Simon Willnauer <
simon.willnauer@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would say within the next 3 month.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
> > Best regards,
> > Lukas
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Re: Lucene 3.3 release soon?

Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
I would say within the next 3 month.

Thoughts?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> How soon can we expect official Lucene 3.3 release?
> Best regards,
> Lukas

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