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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> on 2012/03/06 17:58:44 UTC

[DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Hi,

I would like to send  out the following email to the general incubator 
mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache 
requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap and 
to save time later on.

Any opinions or improvements?

Juergen


###
Hi,

the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first 
release that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and users.

You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org 
and that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very 
huge user base all over the world.

We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we would 
like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the Apache 
guidelines for a potential release.

We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our project 
members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be found under

Source package
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html

Binary package
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the 
download directory directly 
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/

NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user 
profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and 
upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed extensions 
because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are working on this. 
You can easy rename your user profile can test our snapshot build and 
can rename your user directory afterwards.

Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we 
would like to invite you to review the source packages and also the 
binary packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license, 
NOTICE, ...)

We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would require 
some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project we would 
be very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this time. And the 
main goal is to fix potential issues early and to save time later on 
when we have a first RC in place.

On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC

Juergen
###

Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

if I get no further feedback or concerns I will post it tomorrow.

Juergen

On 3/7/12 7:28 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 3/7/12 12:05 AM, Donald Whytock wrote:
>> Grammar-weenie-ing:
>>
>> "We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform"
>>
>> That sentence structure suggests "compliant" instead of "conform", as
>> in "to become Apache-compliant". Alternately, you can say "IP
>> clearance work to conform to Apache standards" or "to conform to the
>> Apache Way".
>>
>> ---
>>
>> "We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks"
>>
>> I'd suggest "We have prepared developer snapshots over the past
>> several weeks".
>>
>> ---
>>
>> "because of the complexity of the project we would be very much
>> appreciate"
>>
>> Remove "be".
>>
>> ---
>>
>> "We know that we have no RC candidate right now"
>>
>> RC = release candidate? If so, replace "RC" with "release" here. The
>> second "RC" is probably okay.
>>
>> Otherwise, good content and tone.
>>
>
> thanks for the valuable feedback
>
> Juergen
>
>
>> Don
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Hans Zybura<hz...@zybura.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know much about the incubator folks and the whole process. So I
>>> can't really judge the timing of this. But I for my part wouldn't
>>> want to be
>>> left without dictionaries, but with a spellchecker gone wild instead,
>>> just
>>> because I did not really understand what the note of warning meant in
>>> plain
>>> English. The amount of work already done will be more impressive, if the
>>> known issues are better explained, especially the most obvious ones.
>>>
>>> Alternative wording suggestion:
>>>
>>> NOTE: Be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
>>> profiles before testing. Existing OOo 3.x installations will be
>>> overwritten.
>>> We provide full install sets to test system integration and upgrades.
>>> Known issues: Currently we are not able to migrate installed
>>> extensions. There will be no dictionaries, therefore the spellchecker
>>> will
>>> go wild. (We are
>>> working on this, of course.) Please rename your user profile before
>>> testing
>>> our
>>> snapshot build, and re-rename your user profile after reinstalling a
>>> stable
>>> OOo version.
>>> We recommend using a virtual machine for testing, not your production
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> BTW: This would be a better wording for the note of warning on the
>>> download
>>> site for dev snapshots as well, I think.
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 PM
>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential
>>>> Apache
>>>> OpenOffice release
>>>>
>>>> Jürgen --
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what the requirements are or will be, but I think this
>>>> is a
>>> good
>>>> invitation to the "incubator" folks. Nice!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/3/6 Jürgen Schmidt<jo...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to send out the following email to the general incubator
>>>>> mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache
>>>>> requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap
>>>>> and to save time later on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any opinions or improvements?
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ###
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first
>>>>> release that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and
>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org
>>>>> and that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very
>>>>> huge user base all over the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we
>>>>> would like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the
>>>>> Apache guidelines for a potential release.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our
>>>>> project members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be
>>>>> found under
>>>>>
>>>>> Source package
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**developer-snapshots/src_**
>>>>> releases/srcrelease.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-sna
>>>>> pshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Binary package
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>>
>>>> AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots<https://cwiki.apache.org/con
>>>> f
>>>>>
>>>> AOO+luence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshot
>>>> s>
>>>>>
>>>>> The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the
>>>>> download directory directly http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**
>>>>> developer-
>>>> snapshots/macos/**r1296433/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/
>>>>> developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
>>>>> profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and
>>>>> upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed
>>>>> extensions because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are
>>>>> working on this. You can easy rename your user profile can test our
>>>>> snapshot build and can rename your user directory afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we
>>>>> would like to invite you to review the source packages and also the
>>>>> binary packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license,
>>>>> NOTICE, ...)
>>>>>
>>>>> We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would
>>>>> require some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project
>>>>> we would be very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this
>>>>> time. And the main goal is to fix potential issues early and to save
>>>>> time later on when we have a first RC in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>> ###
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> ------------
>>>> MzK
>>>>
>>>> "Follow your bliss."
>>>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>>
>


Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 3/7/12 12:05 AM, Donald Whytock wrote:
> Grammar-weenie-ing:
>
> "We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform"
>
> That sentence structure suggests "compliant" instead of "conform", as
> in "to become Apache-compliant".  Alternately, you can say "IP
> clearance work to conform to Apache standards" or "to conform to the
> Apache Way".
>
> ---
>
> "We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks"
>
> I'd suggest "We have prepared developer snapshots over the past several weeks".
>
> ---
>
> "because of the complexity of the project we would be very much appreciate"
>
> Remove "be".
>
> ---
>
> "We know that we have no RC candidate right now"
>
> RC = release candidate?  If so, replace "RC" with "release" here.  The
> second "RC" is probably okay.
>
> Otherwise, good content and tone.
>

thanks for the valuable feedback

Juergen


> Don
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Hans Zybura<hz...@zybura.com>  wrote:
>> I don't know much about the incubator folks and the whole process. So I
>> can't really judge the timing of this. But I for my part wouldn't want to be
>> left without dictionaries, but with a spellchecker gone wild instead, just
>> because I did not really understand what the note of warning meant in plain
>> English. The amount of work already done will be more impressive, if the
>> known issues are better explained, especially the most obvious ones.
>>
>> Alternative wording suggestion:
>>
>> NOTE: Be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
>> profiles before testing. Existing OOo 3.x installations will be overwritten.
>> We provide full install sets to test system integration and upgrades.
>> Known issues: Currently we are not able to migrate installed
>> extensions. There will be no dictionaries, therefore the spellchecker will
>> go wild. (We are
>> working on this, of course.) Please rename your user profile before testing
>> our
>> snapshot build, and re-rename your user profile after reinstalling a stable
>> OOo version.
>> We recommend using a virtual machine for testing, not your production
>> environment.
>>
>> BTW: This would be a better wording for the note of warning on the download
>> site for dev snapshots as well, I think.
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 PM
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache
>>> OpenOffice release
>>>
>>> Jürgen --
>>>
>>> I don't know what the requirements are or will be, but I think this is a
>> good
>>> invitation to the "incubator" folks. Nice!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/3/6 Jürgen Schmidt<jo...@googlemail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to send  out the following email to the general incubator
>>>> mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache
>>>> requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap
>>>> and to save time later on.
>>>>
>>>> Any opinions or improvements?
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ###
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first
>>>> release that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and users.
>>>>
>>>> You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org
>>>> and that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very
>>>> huge user base all over the world.
>>>>
>>>> We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we
>>>> would like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the
>>>> Apache guidelines for a potential release.
>>>>
>>>> We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our
>>>> project members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be
>>>> found under
>>>>
>>>> Source package
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**developer-snapshots/src_**
>>>> releases/srcrelease.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-sna
>>>> pshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html>
>>>>
>>>> Binary package
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>
>>> AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots<https://cwiki.apache.org/con
>>> f
>>>>
>>> AOO+luence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshot
>>> s>
>>>>
>>>> The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the
>>>> download directory directly http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**
>>>> developer-
>>> snapshots/macos/**r1296433/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/
>>>> developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/>
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
>>>> profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and
>>>> upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed
>>>> extensions because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are
>>>> working on this. You can easy rename your user profile can test our
>>>> snapshot build and can rename your user directory afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we
>>>> would like to invite you to review the source packages and also the
>>>> binary packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license,
>>>> NOTICE, ...)
>>>>
>>>> We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would
>>>> require some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project
>>>> we would be very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this
>>>> time. And the main goal is to fix potential issues early and to save
>>>> time later on when we have a first RC in place.
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>> ###
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Follow your bliss."
>>>           -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>


Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
Grammar-weenie-ing:

"We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform"

That sentence structure suggests "compliant" instead of "conform", as
in "to become Apache-compliant".  Alternately, you can say "IP
clearance work to conform to Apache standards" or "to conform to the
Apache Way".

---

"We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks"

I'd suggest "We have prepared developer snapshots over the past several weeks".

---

"because of the complexity of the project we would be very much appreciate"

Remove "be".

---

"We know that we have no RC candidate right now"

RC = release candidate?  If so, replace "RC" with "release" here.  The
second "RC" is probably okay.

Otherwise, good content and tone.

Don

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Hans Zybura <hz...@zybura.com> wrote:
> I don't know much about the incubator folks and the whole process. So I
> can't really judge the timing of this. But I for my part wouldn't want to be
> left without dictionaries, but with a spellchecker gone wild instead, just
> because I did not really understand what the note of warning meant in plain
> English. The amount of work already done will be more impressive, if the
> known issues are better explained, especially the most obvious ones.
>
> Alternative wording suggestion:
>
> NOTE: Be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
> profiles before testing. Existing OOo 3.x installations will be overwritten.
> We provide full install sets to test system integration and upgrades.
> Known issues: Currently we are not able to migrate installed
> extensions. There will be no dictionaries, therefore the spellchecker will
> go wild. (We are
> working on this, of course.) Please rename your user profile before testing
> our
> snapshot build, and re-rename your user profile after reinstalling a stable
> OOo version.
> We recommend using a virtual machine for testing, not your production
> environment.
>
> BTW: This would be a better wording for the note of warning on the download
> site for dev snapshots as well, I think.
>
> Hans
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 PM
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache
>> OpenOffice release
>>
>> Jürgen --
>>
>> I don't know what the requirements are or will be, but I think this is a
> good
>> invitation to the "incubator" folks. Nice!
>>
>>
>> 2012/3/6 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I would like to send  out the following email to the general incubator
>> > mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache
>> > requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap
>> > and to save time later on.
>> >
>> > Any opinions or improvements?
>> >
>> > Juergen
>> >
>> >
>> > ###
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first
>> > release that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and users.
>> >
>> > You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org
>> > and that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very
>> > huge user base all over the world.
>> >
>> > We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we
>> > would like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the
>> > Apache guidelines for a potential release.
>> >
>> > We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our
>> > project members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be
>> > found under
>> >
>> > Source package
>> > http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**developer-snapshots/src_**
>> > releases/srcrelease.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-sna
>> > pshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html>
>> >
>> > Binary package
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> >
>> AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots<https://cwiki.apache.org/con
>> f
>> >
>> AOO+luence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshot
>> s>
>> >
>> > The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the
>> > download directory directly http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**
>> > developer-
>> snapshots/macos/**r1296433/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/
>> > developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/>
>> >
>> > NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
>> > profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and
>> > upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed
>> > extensions because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are
>> > working on this. You can easy rename your user profile can test our
>> > snapshot build and can rename your user directory afterwards.
>> >
>> > Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we
>> > would like to invite you to review the source packages and also the
>> > binary packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license,
>> > NOTICE, ...)
>> >
>> > We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would
>> > require some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project
>> > we would be very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this
>> > time. And the main goal is to fix potential issues early and to save
>> > time later on when we have a first RC in place.
>> >
>> > On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC
>> >
>> > Juergen
>> > ###
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Follow your bliss."
>>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>

RE: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Posted by Hans Zybura <hz...@zybura.com>.
I don't know much about the incubator folks and the whole process. So I
can't really judge the timing of this. But I for my part wouldn't want to be
left without dictionaries, but with a spellchecker gone wild instead, just
because I did not really understand what the note of warning meant in plain
English. The amount of work already done will be more impressive, if the
known issues are better explained, especially the most obvious ones.

Alternative wording suggestion:

NOTE: Be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
profiles before testing. Existing OOo 3.x installations will be overwritten.
We provide full install sets to test system integration and upgrades. 
Known issues: Currently we are not able to migrate installed
extensions. There will be no dictionaries, therefore the spellchecker will
go wild. (We are
working on this, of course.) Please rename your user profile before testing
our
snapshot build, and re-rename your user profile after reinstalling a stable
OOo version.
We recommend using a virtual machine for testing, not your production
environment.

BTW: This would be a better wording for the note of warning on the download
site for dev snapshots as well, I think.

Hans


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 PM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache
> OpenOffice release
> 
> Jürgen --
> 
> I don't know what the requirements are or will be, but I think this is a
good
> invitation to the "incubator" folks. Nice!
> 
> 
> 2012/3/6 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to send  out the following email to the general incubator
> > mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache
> > requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap
> > and to save time later on.
> >
> > Any opinions or improvements?
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> > ###
> > Hi,
> >
> > the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first
> > release that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and users.
> >
> > You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org
> > and that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very
> > huge user base all over the world.
> >
> > We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we
> > would like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the
> > Apache guidelines for a potential release.
> >
> > We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our
> > project members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be
> > found under
> >
> > Source package
> > http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**developer-snapshots/src_**
> > releases/srcrelease.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-sna
> > pshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html>
> >
> > Binary package
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >
> AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots<https://cwiki.apache.org/con
> f
> >
> AOO+luence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshot
> s>
> >
> > The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the
> > download directory directly http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**
> > developer-
> snapshots/macos/**r1296433/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/
> > developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/>
> >
> > NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
> > profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and
> > upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed
> > extensions because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are
> > working on this. You can easy rename your user profile can test our
> > snapshot build and can rename your user directory afterwards.
> >
> > Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we
> > would like to invite you to review the source packages and also the
> > binary packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license,
> > NOTICE, ...)
> >
> > We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would
> > require some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project
> > we would be very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this
> > time. And the main goal is to fix potential issues early and to save
> > time later on when we have a first RC in place.
> >
> > On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC
> >
> > Juergen
> > ###
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
> MzK
> 
> "Follow your bliss."
>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell


Re: [DRAFT]: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
Jürgen --

I don't know what the requirements are or will be, but I think this is a
good invitation to the "incubator" folks. Nice!


2012/3/6 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I would like to send  out the following email to the general incubator
> mailing list to ask for early feedback related the general Apache
> requirements. The main intention is to address potential issues asap and to
> save time later on.
>
> Any opinions or improvements?
>
> Juergen
>
>
> ###
> Hi,
>
> the Apache OpenOffice podling project is moving forward to a first release
> that is long expected by the OpenOffice.org community and users.
>
> You know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of OpenOffice.org and
> that the project is very huge, has a very long history and a very huge user
> base all over the world.
>
> We did a lot of IP clearance work to become Apache conform and we would
> like to get some early feedback if we are in shape with the Apache
> guidelines for a potential release.
>
> We are preparing developer snapshots since several weeks for our project
> members to test and review. This developer snapshots can be found under
>
> Source package
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**developer-snapshots/src_**
> releases/srcrelease.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-snapshots/src_releases/srcrelease.html>
>
> Binary package
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots>
>
> The mac version is also signed and the check files can be found in the
> download directory directly http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**
> developer-snapshots/macos/**r1296433/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-snapshots/macos/r1296433/>
>
> NOTE: be careful with the binary packages and save your office user
> profiles. We provide full install sets to test system integration and
> upgrades. And we are currently not able to migrate installed extensions
> because of the removal of the Berkeley DB. But we are working on this. You
> can easy rename your user profile can test our snapshot build and can
> rename your user directory afterwards.
>
> Right now we are focusing on show stopper issues but nevertheless we would
> like to invite you to review the source packages and also the binary
> packages if they fulfill the Apache requirements (e.g license, NOTICE, ...)
>
> We know that we have no RC candidate right now and that it would require
> some work by you. But because of the complexity of the project we would be
> very much appreciate any kind of early feedback at this time. And the main
> goal is to fix potential issues early and to save time later on when we
> have a first RC in place.
>
> On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PPMC
>
> Juergen
> ###
>



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