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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by James Ong <ya...@gmail.com> on 2012/05/22 16:00:06 UTC
Actionscript 4 compatibility
Andreas has blog a wishlist for AS4
http://www.doomsday.no/esn/2012/05/actionscript-wishlist/
While I come to think if I have a great idea, why not implement "Functional
programming" along with imperative language
similar to Scala?
In fact, I've been wishing that Adobe could overhaul their AS4 syntax to
adopt half of Scala style to produce cleaner code,
reduce boilerplate and to become a better programmer, in turn, we can
acquire the Scala knowledge easily and leverage
enormous power with existing Java libraries.
RE: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by David Coleman <da...@hotmail.com>.
+1 for multiple inheritance.
+1 for java/C++ bridge. I would love to be able to import a jar or an .so or a .lib into a project and instantiate the classes inside it... (ie: pdf generators, xml parsers, all kinds of useful stuff that already exists and could make AS apps truly shine!)
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:00:06 +0800
> Subject: Actionscript 4 compatibility
> From: yanlilei64@gmail.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
> Andreas has blog a wishlist for AS4
> http://www.doomsday.no/esn/2012/05/actionscript-wishlist/
>
> While I come to think if I have a great idea, why not implement "Functional
> programming" along with imperative language
> similar to Scala?
>
> In fact, I've been wishing that Adobe could overhaul their AS4 syntax to
> adopt half of Scala style to produce cleaner code,
> reduce boilerplate and to become a better programmer, in turn, we can
> acquire the Scala knowledge easily and leverage
> enormous power with existing Java libraries.
Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
On 5/22/2012 12:47 PM, FRANKLIN GARZON wrote:
> Well, with the actual news about that Flash is starting to have some problems to support new browsers
Do you have a source for that claim? Are there new browsers that
Flash Player is not supporting?
> I think some companies not want to migrate to action script 4 (is a loss time), however if Air continue grown and specially enter into more devices maybe. We need to see if continue writing AS code Adobe can compile for HTML5 with full compatibility.
Adobe is a company; and I'm not sure how you compile a company.
If you want Apache Flex to compile to non plugin HTML-based
technologies (HTML/JS/CSS3) then there are people on the Apache Flex
project who would like to see the same thing.
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Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Ariel Jakobovits <ar...@yahoo.com>.
> If you want to discuss certain compiler hooks that take "non-standard" ActionScript and turn it into standard ActionScript; that is probably on-topic.
Which is how you could have chosen to look at it, because that's what I did, seeing as how a little innovation couldn't hurt, eh?
On May 22, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com> wrote:
> On 5/22/2012 1:15 PM, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
>> Why can't a new compiler for apache flex support a new version of as4 even if it is not official with adobe?? We have already talked about moving to haxe.
> [Sorry Jonathon; but I Thought this was a relevant Apache Flex question]
>
> How do you get a new version of ActionScript without it being official from Adobe?
>
> If you want to discuss certain compiler hooks that take "non-standard" ActionScript and turn it into standard ActionScript; that is probably on-topic.
>
> If you want to talk about ActionScript 4 move to the Adobe forums or some other forum.
>
>
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Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
> [Sorry Jonathon; but I Thought this was a relevant Apache Flex question]
>
> How do you get a new version of ActionScript without it being official
> from Adobe?
>
> If you want to discuss certain compiler hooks that take "non-standard"
> ActionScript and turn it into standard ActionScript; that is probably
> on-topic.
>
> If you want to talk about ActionScript 4 move to the Adobe forums or some
> other forum.
>
I agree. It was the other discussion that was rising and the talk about AS4
features and whatever else that is off topic.
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Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
On 5/22/2012 1:15 PM, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
> Why can't a new compiler for apache flex support a new version of as4 even if it is not official with adobe?? We have already talked about moving to haxe.
[Sorry Jonathon; but I Thought this was a relevant Apache Flex question]
How do you get a new version of ActionScript without it being official
from Adobe?
If you want to discuss certain compiler hooks that take "non-standard"
ActionScript and turn it into standard ActionScript; that is probably
on-topic.
If you want to talk about ActionScript 4 move to the Adobe forums or
some other forum.
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
203-379-0773
--
http://www.flextras.com?c=104
UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
--
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http://www.asktheflexpert.com
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Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Ariel Jakobovits <ar...@yahoo.com>.
Why can't a new compiler for apache flex support a new version of as4 even if it is not official with adobe?? We have already talked about moving to haxe.
Ariel Jakobovits
ajakobov@adobe.com
650-350-0282
On May 22, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, FRANKLIN GARZON <fg...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Well, with the actual news about that Flash is starting to have some
>> problems to support new browsers I think some companies not want to migrate
>> to action script 4 (is a loss time), however if Air continue grown and
>> specially enter into more devices maybe. We need to see if continue writing
>> AS code Adobe can compile for HTML5 with full compatibility.
>
>
> As we've seen these discussions rise already MANY times on the mailing list
> can we please just end this thread now. If you want to have this discussion
> feel free to start a thread on a blog of your choosing but please keep this
> list to discussion specifically on the Flex framework.
>
> --
> Jonathan Campos
Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, FRANKLIN GARZON <fg...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Well, with the actual news about that Flash is starting to have some
> problems to support new browsers I think some companies not want to migrate
> to action script 4 (is a loss time), however if Air continue grown and
> specially enter into more devices maybe. We need to see if continue writing
> AS code Adobe can compile for HTML5 with full compatibility.
As we've seen these discussions rise already MANY times on the mailing list
can we please just end this thread now. If you want to have this discussion
feel free to start a thread on a blog of your choosing but please keep this
list to discussion specifically on the Flex framework.
--
Jonathan Campos
RE: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by FRANKLIN GARZON <fg...@hotmail.com>.
Well, with the actual news about that Flash is starting to have some problems to support new browsers I think some companies not want to migrate to action script 4 (is a loss time), however if Air continue grown and specially enter into more devices maybe. We need to see if continue writing AS code Adobe can compile for HTML5 with full compatibility.
Franklin Garzón
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 10:31:55 -0400
> From: jeffry@dot-com-it.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> CC: yanlilei64@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
>
>
> Do you realize that the Apache Flex team has no control, or input,
> into the creation, or evolution, of the ActionScript language?
>
> We may be able to perform some "magic" using compiler hooks to rewrite
> our code, but we won't be able to change the underlying language.
>
> Unless you want to talk about writing / adding such compiler hooks; I
> suggest you take your conversation of ActionScript 4 to the Adobe forums.
>
> On 5/22/2012 10:00 AM, James Ong wrote:
> > Andreas has blog a wishlist for AS4
> > http://www.doomsday.no/esn/2012/05/actionscript-wishlist/
> >
> > While I come to think if I have a great idea, why not implement "Functional
> > programming" along with imperative language
> > similar to Scala?
> >
> > In fact, I've been wishing that Adobe could overhaul their AS4 syntax to
> > adopt half of Scala style to produce cleaner code,
> > reduce boilerplate and to become a better programmer, in turn, we can
> > acquire the Scala knowledge easily and leverage
> > enormous power with existing Java libraries.
> >
>
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> 203-379-0773
> --
> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> --
> http://www.theflexshow.com
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> --
> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
>
Re: Actionscript 4 compatibility
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
Do you realize that the Apache Flex team has no control, or input,
into the creation, or evolution, of the ActionScript language?
We may be able to perform some "magic" using compiler hooks to rewrite
our code, but we won't be able to change the underlying language.
Unless you want to talk about writing / adding such compiler hooks; I
suggest you take your conversation of ActionScript 4 to the Adobe forums.
On 5/22/2012 10:00 AM, James Ong wrote:
> Andreas has blog a wishlist for AS4
> http://www.doomsday.no/esn/2012/05/actionscript-wishlist/
>
> While I come to think if I have a great idea, why not implement "Functional
> programming" along with imperative language
> similar to Scala?
>
> In fact, I've been wishing that Adobe could overhaul their AS4 syntax to
> adopt half of Scala style to produce cleaner code,
> reduce boilerplate and to become a better programmer, in turn, we can
> acquire the Scala knowledge easily and leverage
> enormous power with existing Java libraries.
>
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
203-379-0773
--
http://www.flextras.com?c=104
UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
--
http://www.theflexshow.com
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
http://www.asktheflexpert.com
--
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