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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Adrian Brown <ad...@yahoo.com.au> on 2002/09/11 02:58:49 UTC

Apple Web Objects

Noting the spirit of open comment and criticism on
Struts-alternative products in the J2EE community, I
was mildly surprised to search the archives of
theserverside and the Struts users list and find no
reference to 'Apple Web Objects'.

I was wondering if anyone had come across them in
their travels. Their WYSIWYG approach is attractive,
throwing away servlets and jsps does worry me but if
it is still Java then it is still preferable to .Net,
right? I may even be able to keep my EJBs ... 

At US$1500 for a licence, is it worth looking into
further?


Home page:
http://www.apple.com/webobjects

Flashy pic:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/WebObjectsOverview/WOHTML/index.html

Thanks,

Adrian

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Null String in Error Message

Posted by Sanjeev <sa...@siptech.co.in>.
Hi ,

    When I display the error message in JSP page using <html:errors
property="propertyName"/>, a null string is getting appended at the beginning of
the error message. eg; null <custom error message>

    How do I get rid of this null string?

    I am using Jboss as application server and catalina as servlet engine.

Thanks in advance,
Sanjeev.




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Re: Apple Web Objects

Posted by Joel Rees <jo...@alpsgiken.gr.jp>.
Haven't had any personal experience with it, but --

> Noting the spirit of open comment and criticism on
> Struts-alternative products in the J2EE community, I
> was mildly surprised to search the archives of
> theserverside and the Struts users list and find no
> reference to 'Apple Web Objects'.

It's expensive? Wait. Looking at Idea, it's only a little expensive.

> I was wondering if anyone had come across them in
> their travels. Their WYSIWYG approach is attractive,
> throwing away servlets and jsps does worry me but if
> it is still Java then it is still preferable to .Net,
> right? I may even be able to keep my EJBs ... 

It's funny. I've heard people complain about it, but what they said made
me wonder if there was anything they wouldn't complain about.

I think I've heard that it shares a lot with Apple's Cocoa IDE, which is
kind of fun, and very MVC, although it doesn't do nearly as much
hand-holding for you as, say, Delphi. How much you'd gain if you
succeeded in perverting it for Tomcat/Struts, I have no way of guessing.

> At US$1500 for a licence, is it worth looking into
> further?

I thought it was $700.

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RE: Apple Web Objects

Posted by David Blevins <db...@visi.com>.
Hi Adrian,

Just wanted to add a note about WebObjects and EJBs.  Apple has been
using OpenEJB to support EJBs since WebObjects 5.1.  So, you can write
all the EJB 1.1 beans that you want and they will interoperate from
WebObjects' EOF and other parts of WebObjects.

If you look at the WebObjects' "Tech Spec" page, OpenEJB, OpenORB, and
Tyrex are listed, but they don't give URLs, so here they are:
http://openejb.sourceforge.net
http://openorb.sourceforge.net/
http://tyrex.sourceforge.net/

Regards,
David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrianjonbrown@yahoo.com.au] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:59 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Apple Web Objects
> 
> 
> Noting the spirit of open comment and criticism on 
> Struts-alternative products in the J2EE community, I was 
> mildly surprised to search the archives of theserverside and 
> the Struts users list and find no reference to 'Apple Web Objects'.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had come across them in
> their travels. Their WYSIWYG approach is attractive,
> throwing away servlets and jsps does worry me but if
> it is still Java then it is still preferable to .Net,
> right? I may even be able to keep my EJBs ... 
> 
> At US$1500 for a licence, is it worth looking into
> further?
> 
> 
> Home page:
> http://www.apple.com/webobjects
> 
> Flashy pic: 
> http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/WebObjectsOverv
iew/WOHTML/index.html

Thanks,

Adrian

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