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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr> on 2017/11/25 23:02:56 UTC
Newbie On Board!!!
Hello everybody!!!
I'm new here willing to help!
I don't know where to start and what to do!
Any help will be great!
J!
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoran,
I didn't include those changes specifically because of choice, not everyone
will have NetBeans as they come looking at this. We hope they do, but
ultimately I think we hope they leave wanting to use NetBeans more. Hence
why I leaned heavily on the command line instructions but still pointed out
that this can be done in the IDE.
At the moemnt, the page is confusing now that we have 2 sets of steps in
there without any clear information about which ones to use. I'll take a
look shortly in relation to cleaning it up a little.
John
On 2 December 2017 at 08:56, Zoran Sevarac <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the new
> contributors.
> I've added your steps to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Development+Environment
> as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to have
> this brief info in one place.
>
> Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats what
> peopke are looking for.
> Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which already
> comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them to
> get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not from
> the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that perfectly makes
> sense to me.
> Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
>
> Thanks
> Zoran
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you John!
> >
> > This is what I had in mind!
> >
> > Maybe you can add some links
> > Java SE Development Kit 8 (http://www.oracle.com/
> technetwork/java/javase/
> > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html )
> > Git (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > distributions.
> >
> > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> >
> > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> >
> > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/)
> > 2. While logged in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > incubator-netbeans.git
> > 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9) choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the local
> > path to save
> > 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally finish.
> > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> >
> > ---------
> > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > $ant
> > But I have some errors that I have to check
> > I will post the next steps as I manage to move on!
> >
> > Keep on!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Ioannis,
> >
> > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Developer+Environment
> >
> > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or indeed
> > let me know and I can add to the page.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > >
> > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you
> > > can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
> > > nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have already read all these!
> > > >
> > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > >
> > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > >
> > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> > both???
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > >
> > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of
> > > > JDK
> > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans
> > > > on
> > > top
> > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > >
> > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > >
> > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at
> all:
> > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > >
> > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > >
> > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9
> > > build,
> > > > that's up to you.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > >
> > > > > What to do next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > foundation:
> > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions as
> > > > > > > > > > a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/H
> > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're working
> > > > > > > > > > > on the Beta
> > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
We've tried communicating this multiple times -- here is yet another
attempt.
Gj
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Tony Brooksbank <br...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> You are not the only one. I am getting swamped with the blasted thing. If
> you do find out please let me know.
>
>
> All the best
>
>
> Tony
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: BONUCHI, MICHAEL ROGER <mb...@att.com>
> Sent: 07 December 2017 15:32
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Could someone tell me how I can unsubscribe from this email reflector?
>
> Tried a few different times unsuccessfully.
>
> Thank you,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
>
>
> El 07/12/17 a las 16:23, Lars Bruun-Hansen escribió:
> > case, not the fork case. I think the intention here is to give a recipe
> for
> > people who want to try out NetBeans, rather than a recipe for PR authors.
> >
>
> I see.
>
> Well, then I think we should clarify both use cases: a) people wishing
> to build NetBeans themselves and b) people wanting to set up a
> "Development Environment" to contribute (with a previous fork).
>
> If we don't want to write both sets of instructions then maybe we want
> to clarify the use case explicitly, saying "this is to build NetBeans
> from source".
>
> Otherwise people will get confused.
>
> Let me know if I can be of any help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Tony Brooksbank <br...@hotmail.com>.
You are not the only one. I am getting swamped with the blasted thing. If you do find out please let me know.
All the best
Tony
________________________________
From: BONUCHI, MICHAEL ROGER <mb...@att.com>
Sent: 07 December 2017 15:32
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Could someone tell me how I can unsubscribe from this email reflector?
Tried a few different times unsuccessfully.
Thank you,
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:31 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
El 07/12/17 a las 16:23, Lars Bruun-Hansen escribió:
> case, not the fork case. I think the intention here is to give a recipe for
> people who want to try out NetBeans, rather than a recipe for PR authors.
>
I see.
Well, then I think we should clarify both use cases: a) people wishing
to build NetBeans themselves and b) people wanting to set up a
"Development Environment" to contribute (with a previous fork).
If we don't want to write both sets of instructions then maybe we want
to clarify the use case explicitly, saying "this is to build NetBeans
from source".
Otherwise people will get confused.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Kind regards,
Antonio
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by "BONUCHI, MICHAEL ROGER" <mb...@att.com>.
Could someone tell me how I can unsubscribe from this email reflector?
Tried a few different times unsuccessfully.
Thank you,
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:31 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
El 07/12/17 a las 16:23, Lars Bruun-Hansen escribió:
> case, not the fork case. I think the intention here is to give a recipe for
> people who want to try out NetBeans, rather than a recipe for PR authors.
>
I see.
Well, then I think we should clarify both use cases: a) people wishing
to build NetBeans themselves and b) people wanting to set up a
"Development Environment" to contribute (with a previous fork).
If we don't want to write both sets of instructions then maybe we want
to clarify the use case explicitly, saying "this is to build NetBeans
from source".
Otherwise people will get confused.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Kind regards,
Antonio
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
El 07/12/17 a las 16:23, Lars Bruun-Hansen escribió:
> case, not the fork case. I think the intention here is to give a recipe for
> people who want to try out NetBeans, rather than a recipe for PR authors.
>
I see.
Well, then I think we should clarify both use cases: a) people wishing
to build NetBeans themselves and b) people wanting to set up a
"Development Environment" to contribute (with a previous fork).
If we don't want to write both sets of instructions then maybe we want
to clarify the use case explicitly, saying "this is to build NetBeans
from source".
Otherwise people will get confused.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Kind regards,
Antonio
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Lars Bruun-Hansen <lb...@gmail.com>.
@Antonio: You are absolutely right. I didn't notice that when I first
applauded the "Development Environment" page.
To be fair the page does indeed try to explain why you may want to fork,
rather than just clone. But the "show me" images all deal with the clone
case, not the fork case. I think the intention here is to give a recipe for
people who want to try out NetBeans, rather than a recipe for PR authors.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In that page I'm missing a previous "fork" step, where people fork the
> NetBeans repository and then clone it.
>
> I'm not sure this is the way we want to work, though. I find it useful to
> fork the repository, so people can create their own branches and do their
> own experiments, and submit pull requests once polished.
>
> So the question is, do we want a previous fork or not?
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
> El 07/12/17 a las 13:15, Zoran Sevarac escribió:
>
> Can we rename the page
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Develop
>> ment+Environment
>> to something like 'Quick start' and make it clear that it includes only
>> first steps, and then everything else can go somewhere else?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Lars Bruun-Hansen <
>> lbruunhansen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ioannis,
>>>
>>> There's also this page
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?
>>> pageId=74681408
>>> which predates the "Development Environment" page. (we should make sure
>>> there's no overlap)
>>>
>>> As you can see, on the former page the plan was to document the most
>>> common
>>> tasks a PR author will typically encounter.
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> - How to keep your fork sync'ed with its origin (what you just went
>>> through)
>>> - How to "fix" a stale PR
>>> - How to squash (if required)
>>> - etc
>>>
>>> .. but never really got around to it as such recipes have NOTHING TO DO
>>> WITH NETBEANS. They are generic git and GitHub stuff.
>>> This is not to say it won't have value to document it. But it is by no
>>> means specific to NetBeans, so it feels a little strange to write
>>> instructions for it. If anyone finds the time, please go ahead.
>>>
>>> In the perfect world there would exist such elaborate instructions for
>>> NetBeans PR authors. And in the perfect world they would explain how to
>>> accomplish each task both by doing it from the git command line and how
>>> to
>>> do it from within NetBeans IDE. I've found myself using command line (Git
>>> Bash) much more often than when I used Mercurial. With Mercurial I did
>>> pretty much everything from within the IDE. This may be because I'm not
>>> yet
>>> fully familiar with the git features in the NB IDE.
>>>
>>>
>>> Btw: Big fan of the animations on the "Development Environment" page.
>>> Thumbs up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
>>>> it is very easy to be outdated!
>>>>
>>>> When I visited my fork in github I got a message
>>>>
>>>> "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
>>>>
>>>> After a small research to update my fork:
>>>>
>>>> ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
>>>> ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
>>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
>>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
>>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
>>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
>>>>
>>>> My fork is up to date again!!!
>>>>
>>>> May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
>>>>
>>>> Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend
>>>>
>>> some
>>>
>>>> time thinking about it!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!!
>>>>
>>>> J!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wooooow!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even
>>>>>
>>>> greater!!!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> J!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've
>>>>>
>>>> added
>>>
>>>> few more sentences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ioannis please take a look at
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>> Development+Environment
>>>>>
>>>>> and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and
>>>>>
>>>> others)
>>>>
>>>>> to make the first steps in contributing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
>>>>> should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
>>>>> IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a
>>>>>
>>>> bit
>>>
>>>> difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE
>>>>>
>>>> neutral
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also it would be nice for issue tracker
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
>>>>> tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
>>>>> with simpler tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really think is should exist in first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
>>>>>> next days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
>>>>>> new contributors.
>>>>>> I've added your steps to
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>> Development+Environment
>>>>>> as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
>>>>>> I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
>>>>>> growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
>>>>>> have this brief info in one place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start'
>>>>>>
>>>>> as
>>>
>>>> thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
>>>>>> what peopke are looking for.
>>>>>> Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
>>>>>> already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
>>>>>> Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
>>>>>> to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
>>>>>> Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
>>>>>> from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
>>>>>> perfectly makes sense to me.
>>>>>> Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you John!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what I had in mind!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you can add some links
>>>>>>> Java SE Development Kit 8
>>>>>>> (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
>>>>>>> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
>>>>>>> (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
>>>>>>> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
>>>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
>>>>>>> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> logged
>>>
>>>> in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>>> 3. Fork the project to your account.
>>>>>>> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
>>>>>>> incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 9)
>>>
>>>> choose Team>Git>Clone...
>>>>>>> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
>>>>>>> local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
>>>>>>> finally finish.
>>>>>>> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> I'm up to here right now I tried
>>>>>>> $ant
>>>>>>> But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
>>>>>>> steps as I manage to move on!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep on!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ioannis,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Developer+Envir
>>>
>>>> on
>>>>>>> ment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
>>>>>>> indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> directory,
>>>
>>>> you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
>>>>>>>> found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have already read all these!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But you gave me a clue!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> both???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!!!
>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We do document all of these things here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, you'll find this link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>> Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
>>>>>>>>> release of JDK
>>>>>>>>> 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
>>>>>>>>> NetBeans on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
>>>>>>>>> in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All of the above is described at
>>>>>>>>> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
>>>>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>>>>> 9
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> build,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
>>>>>>>>>> installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you choose which JDK to be used?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, nobody is not calling you smart.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I will leave!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
>>>>>>>>>>> go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> page!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I need is very simple a list!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. you need Ant
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 install JDK8
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 install JDK9
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Download this
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 install that!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't call each other idiots here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> foundation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently does not do? What features would you like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>
>>>> on?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>>>>>>>> (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why you are so idiots???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why you keep posting that!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> features you want to implement. What would you like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to get involved:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How
>>>
>>>> +t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>
>>>> discussions all the time, right now we're working on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> release together:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess you don't need anything!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm out of here!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Zoran,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This a very good idea!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have already found a few things but I'm far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away!!!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I start this wiki page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The great way to contribute would be that you put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributors' which should include all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions as a new contributor, with all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answers
>>>
>>>> you learn along the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start by creating that page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>
>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to build etc is all in the README, like for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to get involved:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/NETBEA
>>>
>>>> NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ow+t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks and discussions all the time, right now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're working on the Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release together:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/NETBEA
>>>
>>>> NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which operating system? Any operating system --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java is write once, run anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello again!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because this is a huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if YOU want a community project you mast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend some time to help community help you!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some people should stop production and give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information to new people who want to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And because these info is not to be sent to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Operating system should I have!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome, Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/pages/viewpage
>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>> action?pageId=65873923
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everybody!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help will be great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Java Champion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://community.oracle.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community/java/java-ch
>>>
>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ons>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
>>>>>> Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sciences
>>>
>>>> < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>> founder
>>>
>>>> | Java Champion
>>>>>> <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
>>>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
>>>>> Department of Software Engineering
>>>>> University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
>>>>> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder |
>>>>> Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/
>>>>>
>>>> community/java/java-champions>
>>>>
>>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,
In that page I'm missing a previous "fork" step, where people fork the
NetBeans repository and then clone it.
I'm not sure this is the way we want to work, though. I find it useful
to fork the repository, so people can create their own branches and do
their own experiments, and submit pull requests once polished.
So the question is, do we want a previous fork or not?
Thanks,
Antonio
El 07/12/17 a las 13:15, Zoran Sevarac escribió:
> Can we rename the page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
> to something like 'Quick start' and make it clear that it includes only
> first steps, and then everything else can go somewhere else?
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Lars Bruun-Hansen <lb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ioannis,
>>
>> There's also this page
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408
>> which predates the "Development Environment" page. (we should make sure
>> there's no overlap)
>>
>> As you can see, on the former page the plan was to document the most common
>> tasks a PR author will typically encounter.
>> For example:
>>
>> - How to keep your fork sync'ed with its origin (what you just went
>> through)
>> - How to "fix" a stale PR
>> - How to squash (if required)
>> - etc
>>
>> .. but never really got around to it as such recipes have NOTHING TO DO
>> WITH NETBEANS. They are generic git and GitHub stuff.
>> This is not to say it won't have value to document it. But it is by no
>> means specific to NetBeans, so it feels a little strange to write
>> instructions for it. If anyone finds the time, please go ahead.
>>
>> In the perfect world there would exist such elaborate instructions for
>> NetBeans PR authors. And in the perfect world they would explain how to
>> accomplish each task both by doing it from the git command line and how to
>> do it from within NetBeans IDE. I've found myself using command line (Git
>> Bash) much more often than when I used Mercurial. With Mercurial I did
>> pretty much everything from within the IDE. This may be because I'm not yet
>> fully familiar with the git features in the NB IDE.
>>
>>
>> Btw: Big fan of the animations on the "Development Environment" page.
>> Thumbs up.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
>>> it is very easy to be outdated!
>>>
>>> When I visited my fork in github I got a message
>>>
>>> "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
>>>
>>> After a small research to update my fork:
>>>
>>> ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
>>> ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
>>> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
>>>
>>> My fork is up to date again!!!
>>>
>>> May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
>>>
>>> Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
>>>
>>> Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend
>> some
>>> time thinking about it!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>>
>>> J!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wooooow!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even
>> greater!!!
>>>>
>>>> J!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>
>>>> John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've
>> added
>>>> few more sentences.
>>>>
>>>> Ioannis please take a look at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>> Development+Environment
>>>>
>>>> and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and
>>> others)
>>>> to make the first steps in contributing.
>>>>
>>>> I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
>>>> should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
>>>> IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a
>> bit
>>>> difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE
>> neutral
>>>>
>>>> Also it would be nice for issue tracker
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
>>>> tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
>>>> with simpler tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Zoran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
>>>>>
>>>>> I really think is should exist in first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
>>>>> next days.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> J!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
>>>>> new contributors.
>>>>> I've added your steps to
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>> Development+Environment
>>>>> as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
>>>>> I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
>>>>> growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
>>>>> have this brief info in one place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start'
>> as
>>>>> thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
>>>>> what peopke are looking for.
>>>>> Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
>>>>> already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
>>>>> Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
>>>>> to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
>>>>> Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
>>>>> from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
>>>>> perfectly makes sense to me.
>>>>> Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you John!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what I had in mind!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you can add some links
>>>>>> Java SE Development Kit 8
>>>>>> (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
>>>>>> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
>>>>>> (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
>>>>>> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
>>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
>>>>>> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload
>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While
>> logged
>>>>>> in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>> 3. Fork the project to your account.
>>>>>> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
>>>>>> incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about
>> 9)
>>>>>> choose Team>Git>Clone...
>>>>>> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
>>>>>> local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
>>>>>> finally finish.
>>>>>> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> I'm up to here right now I tried
>>>>>> $ant
>>>>>> But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
>>>>>> steps as I manage to move on!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep on!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ioannis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>> Developer+Envir
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> ment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
>>>>>> indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation
>> directory,
>>>>>>> you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
>>>>>>> found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have already read all these!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you gave me a clue!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>> both???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!!!
>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We do document all of these things here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example, you'll find this link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>> Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
>>>>>>>> release of JDK
>>>>>>>> 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
>>>>>>>> NetBeans on
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>> of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
>>>>>>>> in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>> all:
>>>>>>>> builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All of the above is described at
>>>>>>>> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
>>>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>>>> 9
>>>>>>> build,
>>>>>>>> that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
>>>>>>>>> installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What to do next?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you choose which JDK to be used?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, nobody is not calling you smart.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I will leave!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
>>>>>>>>>> go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
>>>> page!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I need is very simple a list!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. you need Ant
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 install JDK8
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 install JDK9
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Download this
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 install that!!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We don't call each other idiots here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
>>>>>> foundation:
>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
>>>> needs.
>>>>>>>>>>> What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
>>>>>>>>>>> currently does not do? What features would you like to
>> work
>>>> on?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
>>>>>>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>>>>>>> (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geertjan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why you are so idiots???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why you keep posting that!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
>>>>>>>>>>>> features you want to implement. What would you like to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>> on?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How to get involved:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>> How
>>>>>>>>>>>> +t
>>>>>>>>>>>> o+
>>>>>>>>>>>> Part
>>>>>>>>>>>> ic
>>>>>>>>>>>> ip
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions all the time, right now we're working on
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beta
>>>>>>>>> release together:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess you don't need anything!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm out of here!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't already
>>>>>>>>>>>> there:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Zoran,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This a very good idea!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have already found a few things but I'm far
>> away!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I start this wiki page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The great way to contribute would be that you put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributors' which should include all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions as a new contributor, with all the
>> answers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you learn along the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start by creating that page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to build etc is all in the README, like for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to get involved:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>> confluence/display/NETBEA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ow+t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks and discussions all the time, right now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're working on the Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>> release together:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>> confluence/display/NETBEA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which operating system? Any operating system --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java is write once, run anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello again!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> reply!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because this is a huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if YOU want a community project you mast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend some time to help community help you!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some people should stop production and give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information to new people who want to get
>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And because these info is not to be sent to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Operating system should I have!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome, Ioannis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
>>> confluence/pages/viewpage
>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action?pageId=65873923
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help will be great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Java Champion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://community.oracle.com/
>> community/java/java-ch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ons>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
>>>>> Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
>> Sciences
>>>>> < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/>
>> founder
>>>>> | Java Champion
>>>>> <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
>>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
>>>> Department of Software Engineering
>>>> University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
>>>> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder |
>>>> Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/
>>> community/java/java-champions>
>>>> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
>>>> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Ioannis,
There's nothing stopping you from signing up to the confluence page and
adding it to the page if you think its helpful.
Ultimately, I don't think its a joke, but I do think if I'm looking at
using git etc I would research the minimum of what I need to know when
using forks, etc... So if you think its helpful for you then please do go
ahead and add it to the confluence page.
You don't need any specific permissions to edit the wiki in this project
(actually you may need someone like Geertjan to enable write permissions on
Confluence the first time I believe). Anyone should be able to help
provide even simple things like updates to the documentation to make them
more accessible.
Regards
John
On 6 December 2017 at 19:47, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr> wrote:
> After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
> it is very easy to be outdated!
>
> When I visited my fork in github I got a message
>
> "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
>
> After a small research to update my fork:
>
> ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
> ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
>
> My fork is up to date again!!!
>
> May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
>
> Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
>
> Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend some
> time thinking about it!!
>
>
> Cheers!!
>
> J!
>
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Wooooow!!!
> >
> >
> > I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even greater!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added
> > few more sentences.
> >
> > Ioannis please take a look at
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Development+Environment
> >
> > and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and
> others)
> > to make the first steps in contributing.
> >
> > I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
> > should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
> > IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit
> > difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral
> >
> > Also it would be nice for issue tracker
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
> > tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
> > with simpler tasks.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Zoran
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
> > >
> > > I really think is should exist in first place.
> > >
> > > Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
> > > next days.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
> > > new contributors.
> > > I've added your steps to
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Development+Environment
> > > as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> > > I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> > > growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
> > > have this brief info in one place.
> > >
> > > Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> > > thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
> > > what peopke are looking for.
> > > Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> > > already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> > > Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
> > > to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> > > Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
> > > from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
> > > perfectly makes sense to me.
> > > Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you John!
> > > >
> > > > This is what I had in mind!
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you can add some links
> > > > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > > > distributions.
> > > >
> > > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> > > >
> > > > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> > > >
> > > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > > > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
> > > > finally finish.
> > > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > > > $ant
> > > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
> > > > steps as I manage to move on!
> > > >
> > > > Keep on!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Envir
> > > > on
> > > > ment
> > > >
> > > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have already read all these!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
> > > > > > them
> > > > both???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
> > > > > > release of JDK
> > > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > > > NetBeans on
> > > > > top
> > > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
> > > > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
> > > > > > at
> > > all:
> > > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > 9
> > > > > build,
> > > > > > that's up to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
> > > > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What to do next?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
> > > > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
> > page!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > > > foundation:
> > > > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
> > needs.
> > > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work
> > on?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to
> > > > > > > > > > work
> > > on?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How
> > > > > > > > > > +t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your
> > > > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers
> > > > > > > > > > > > you learn along the
> > > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get
> involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/pages/viewpage
> > .
> > > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-ch
> > > > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > > pi
> > > > > > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
> > > < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > | Java Champion
> > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
> > Department of Software Engineering
> > University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder |
> > Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/
> community/java/java-champions>
> > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> >
> >
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Zoran Sevarac <se...@gmail.com>.
Can we rename the page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
to something like 'Quick start' and make it clear that it includes only
first steps, and then everything else can go somewhere else?
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Lars Bruun-Hansen <lb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Ioannis,
>
> There's also this page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408
> which predates the "Development Environment" page. (we should make sure
> there's no overlap)
>
> As you can see, on the former page the plan was to document the most common
> tasks a PR author will typically encounter.
> For example:
>
> - How to keep your fork sync'ed with its origin (what you just went
> through)
> - How to "fix" a stale PR
> - How to squash (if required)
> - etc
>
> .. but never really got around to it as such recipes have NOTHING TO DO
> WITH NETBEANS. They are generic git and GitHub stuff.
> This is not to say it won't have value to document it. But it is by no
> means specific to NetBeans, so it feels a little strange to write
> instructions for it. If anyone finds the time, please go ahead.
>
> In the perfect world there would exist such elaborate instructions for
> NetBeans PR authors. And in the perfect world they would explain how to
> accomplish each task both by doing it from the git command line and how to
> do it from within NetBeans IDE. I've found myself using command line (Git
> Bash) much more often than when I used Mercurial. With Mercurial I did
> pretty much everything from within the IDE. This may be because I'm not yet
> fully familiar with the git features in the NB IDE.
>
>
> Btw: Big fan of the animations on the "Development Environment" page.
> Thumbs up.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
> > it is very easy to be outdated!
> >
> > When I visited my fork in github I got a message
> >
> > "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
> >
> > After a small research to update my fork:
> >
> > ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
> > ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
> > ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
> > ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
> > ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
> > ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
> >
> > My fork is up to date again!!!
> >
> > May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
> >
> > Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
> >
> > Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend
> some
> > time thinking about it!!
> >
> >
> > Cheers!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wooooow!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even
> greater!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've
> added
> > > few more sentences.
> > >
> > > Ioannis please take a look at
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Development+Environment
> > >
> > > and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and
> > others)
> > > to make the first steps in contributing.
> > >
> > > I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
> > > should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
> > > IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a
> bit
> > > difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE
> neutral
> > >
> > > Also it would be nice for issue tracker
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
> > > tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
> > > with simpler tasks.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
> > > >
> > > > I really think is should exist in first place.
> > > >
> > > > Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
> > > > next days.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
> > > > new contributors.
> > > > I've added your steps to
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Development+Environment
> > > > as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> > > > I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> > > > growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
> > > > have this brief info in one place.
> > > >
> > > > Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start'
> as
> > > > thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
> > > > what peopke are looking for.
> > > > Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> > > > already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> > > > Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
> > > > to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> > > > Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
> > > > from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
> > > > perfectly makes sense to me.
> > > > Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Zoran
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you John!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what I had in mind!
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you can add some links
> > > > > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > > > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > > > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > > > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > > > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > > > > distributions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> > > > >
> > > > > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > > > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload
> it
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While
> logged
> > > > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > > > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > > > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about
> 9)
> > > > > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > > > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > > > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
> > > > > finally finish.
> > > > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------
> > > > > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > > > > $ant
> > > > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
> > > > > steps as I manage to move on!
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep on!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Developer+Envir
> > > > > on
> > > > > ment
> > > > >
> > > > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > > > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation
> directory,
> > > > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have already read all these!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > both???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
> > > > > > > release of JDK
> > > > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > > > > NetBeans on
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
> > > > > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
> > > > > > > at
> > > > all:
> > > > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
> > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > 9
> > > > > > build,
> > > > > > > that's up to you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
> > > > > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What to do next?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
> > > > > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
> > > page!!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > > > > foundation:
> > > > > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
> > > needs.
> > > > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to
> work
> > > on?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to
> > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > on?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> How
> > > > > > > > > > > +t
> > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far
> away!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the
> answers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you learn along the
> > > > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get
> > involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > confluence/pages/viewpage
> > > .
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/
> community/java/java-ch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > pi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> Sciences
> > > > < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/>
> founder
> > > > | Java Champion
> > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
> > > Department of Software Engineering
> > > University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
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Department of Software Engineering
University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Lars Bruun-Hansen <lb...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ioannis,
There's also this page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408
which predates the "Development Environment" page. (we should make sure
there's no overlap)
As you can see, on the former page the plan was to document the most common
tasks a PR author will typically encounter.
For example:
- How to keep your fork sync'ed with its origin (what you just went through)
- How to "fix" a stale PR
- How to squash (if required)
- etc
.. but never really got around to it as such recipes have NOTHING TO DO
WITH NETBEANS. They are generic git and GitHub stuff.
This is not to say it won't have value to document it. But it is by no
means specific to NetBeans, so it feels a little strange to write
instructions for it. If anyone finds the time, please go ahead.
In the perfect world there would exist such elaborate instructions for
NetBeans PR authors. And in the perfect world they would explain how to
accomplish each task both by doing it from the git command line and how to
do it from within NetBeans IDE. I've found myself using command line (Git
Bash) much more often than when I used Mercurial. With Mercurial I did
pretty much everything from within the IDE. This may be because I'm not yet
fully familiar with the git features in the NB IDE.
Btw: Big fan of the animations on the "Development Environment" page.
Thumbs up.
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
> it is very easy to be outdated!
>
> When I visited my fork in github I got a message
>
> "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
>
> After a small research to update my fork:
>
> ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
> ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
> ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
>
> My fork is up to date again!!!
>
> May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
>
> Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
>
> Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend some
> time thinking about it!!
>
>
> Cheers!!
>
> J!
>
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Wooooow!!!
> >
> >
> > I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even greater!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added
> > few more sentences.
> >
> > Ioannis please take a look at
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Development+Environment
> >
> > and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and
> others)
> > to make the first steps in contributing.
> >
> > I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
> > should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
> > IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit
> > difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral
> >
> > Also it would be nice for issue tracker
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
> > tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
> > with simpler tasks.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Zoran
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
> > >
> > > I really think is should exist in first place.
> > >
> > > Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
> > > next days.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
> > > new contributors.
> > > I've added your steps to
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Development+Environment
> > > as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> > > I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> > > growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
> > > have this brief info in one place.
> > >
> > > Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> > > thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
> > > what peopke are looking for.
> > > Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> > > already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> > > Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
> > > to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> > > Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
> > > from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
> > > perfectly makes sense to me.
> > > Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you John!
> > > >
> > > > This is what I had in mind!
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you can add some links
> > > > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > > > distributions.
> > > >
> > > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> > > >
> > > > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> > > >
> > > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > > > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
> > > > finally finish.
> > > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > > > $ant
> > > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
> > > > steps as I manage to move on!
> > > >
> > > > Keep on!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Envir
> > > > on
> > > > ment
> > > >
> > > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have already read all these!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
> > > > > > them
> > > > both???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
> > > > > > release of JDK
> > > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > > > NetBeans on
> > > > > top
> > > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
> > > > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
> > > > > > at
> > > all:
> > > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > 9
> > > > > build,
> > > > > > that's up to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
> > > > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What to do next?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
> > > > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
> > page!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > > > foundation:
> > > > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
> > needs.
> > > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work
> > on?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to
> > > > > > > > > > work
> > > on?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How
> > > > > > > > > > +t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your
> > > > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers
> > > > > > > > > > > > you learn along the
> > > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get
> involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/pages/viewpage
> > .
> > > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development
it is very easy to be outdated!
When I visited my fork in github I got a message
"This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master."
After a small research to update my fork:
~$ cd NetBeansProjects/
~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/
~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git
~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream
~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master
~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push
My fork is up to date again!!!
May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!!
Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!!
Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend some
time thinking about it!!
Cheers!!
J!
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Wooooow!!!
>
>
> I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even greater!!!
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added
> few more sentences.
>
> Ioannis please take a look at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Development+Environment
>
> and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and others)
> to make the first steps in contributing.
>
> I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
> should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
> IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit
> difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral
>
> Also it would be nice for issue tracker
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of
> tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start
> with simpler tasks.
>
> Cheers
> Zoran
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
> >
> > I really think is should exist in first place.
> >
> > Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
> > next days.
> >
> >
> > Cheers!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
> > new contributors.
> > I've added your steps to
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Development+Environment
> > as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> > I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> > growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
> > have this brief info in one place.
> >
> > Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> > thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
> > what peopke are looking for.
> > Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> > already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> > Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
> > to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> > Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
> > from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
> > perfectly makes sense to me.
> > Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Zoran
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you John!
> > >
> > > This is what I had in mind!
> > >
> > > Maybe you can add some links
> > > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > > distributions.
> > >
> > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> > >
> > > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> > >
> > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
> > > finally finish.
> > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > > $ant
> > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
> > > steps as I manage to move on!
> > >
> > > Keep on!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Ioannis,
> > >
> > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Envir
> > > on
> > > ment
> > >
> > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > > >
> > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have already read all these!
> > > > >
> > > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
> > > > > them
> > > both???
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > > >
> > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
> > > > > release of JDK
> > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > > NetBeans on
> > > > top
> > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > > >
> > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
> > > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
> > > > > at
> > all:
> > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > > >
> > > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
> > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > 9
> > > > build,
> > > > > that's up to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
> > > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What to do next?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
> > > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
> page!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > > foundation:
> > > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
> needs.
> > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to
> > > > > > > > > work
> > on?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How
> > > > > > > > > +t
> > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your
> > > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers
> > > > > > > > > > > you learn along the
> > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for
> > > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now
> > > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
> > > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast
> > > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage
> .
> > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department
> > > > > > > > > > > of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
> > > > > > > > > > > Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-ch
> > > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > pi
> > > > > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
> > < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > | Java Champion
> > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
> Department of Software Engineering
> University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder |
> Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Wooooow!!!
I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even greater!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added few more sentences.
Ioannis please take a look at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and others) to make the first steps in contributing.
I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral
Also it would be nice for issue tracker
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start with simpler tasks.
Cheers
Zoran
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
>
> I really think is should exist in first place.
>
> Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the
> next days.
>
>
> Cheers!!!
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the
> new contributors.
> I've added your steps to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Development+Environment
> as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to
> have this brief info in one place.
>
> Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats
> what peopke are looking for.
> Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them
> to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not
> from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that
> perfectly makes sense to me.
> Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
>
> Thanks
> Zoran
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you John!
> >
> > This is what I had in mind!
> >
> > Maybe you can add some links
> > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > distributions.
> >
> > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> >
> > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> >
> > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and
> > finally finish.
> > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> >
> > ---------
> > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > $ant
> > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next
> > steps as I manage to move on!
> >
> > Keep on!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Ioannis,
> >
> > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Envir
> > on
> > ment
> >
> > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > >
> > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have already read all these!
> > > >
> > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > >
> > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > >
> > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have
> > > > them
> > both???
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > >
> > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and
> > > > release of JDK
> > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > NetBeans on
> > > top
> > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > >
> > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained
> > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > >
> > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build
> > > > at
> all:
> > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > >
> > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > >
> > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache
> > > > NetBeans
> > > > 9
> > > build,
> > > > that's up to you.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I
> > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > >
> > > > > What to do next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail --
> > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > foundation:
> > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to
> > > > > > > > work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How
> > > > > > > > +t
> > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your
> > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers
> > > > > > > > > > you learn along the
> > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for
> > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's
> > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now
> > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA
> > > > > > > > > > > NS
> > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system --
> > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis
> > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy
> > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast
> > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to
> > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > of Software Engineering University of Belgrade,
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> > > > > > > > > > ons>
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Zoran Sevarac <se...@gmail.com>.
John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added
few more sentences.
Ioannis please take a look at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and others)
to make the first steps in contributing.
I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus
should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other
IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit
difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral
Also it would be nice for issue tracker
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of tags
for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start with
simpler tasks.
Cheers
Zoran
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
>
> I really think is should exist in first place.
>
> Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the next
> days.
>
>
> Cheers!!!
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the new
> contributors.
> I've added your steps to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Development+Environment
> as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
> I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
> growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to have
> this brief info in one place.
>
> Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
> thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats what
> peopke are looking for.
> Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which
> already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
> Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them to
> get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
> Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not from
> the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that perfectly makes
> sense to me.
> Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
>
> Thanks
> Zoran
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you John!
> >
> > This is what I had in mind!
> >
> > Maybe you can add some links
> > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > distributions.
> >
> > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> >
> > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> >
> > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally
> > finish.
> > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> >
> > ---------
> > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > $ant
> > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next steps
> > as I manage to move on!
> >
> > Keep on!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Ioannis,
> >
> > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environ
> > ment
> >
> > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > >
> > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have already read all these!
> > > >
> > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > >
> > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > >
> > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> > both???
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > >
> > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release
> > > > of JDK
> > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > NetBeans on
> > > top
> > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > >
> > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > >
> > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at
> all:
> > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > >
> > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > >
> > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans
> > > > 9
> > > build,
> > > > that's up to you.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > >
> > > > > What to do next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > foundation:
> > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions
> > > > > > > > > > as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > > > > > > > > along the
> > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're
> > > > > > > > > > > working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail
> > > > > > > > > > > > a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
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> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty
> > > > > > > > > > of Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs>
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RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list!
I really think is should exist in first place.
Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the next days.
Cheers!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the new contributors.
I've added your steps to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to have this brief info in one place.
Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats what peopke are looking for.
Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that perfectly makes sense to me.
Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
Thanks
Zoran
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Thank you John!
>
> This is what I had in mind!
>
> Maybe you can add some links
> Java SE Development Kit 8
> (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> distributions.
>
> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>
> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
>
> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> 3. Fork the project to your account.
> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> choose Team>Git>Clone...
> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally
> finish.
> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>
> ---------
> I'm up to here right now I tried
> $ant
> But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next steps
> as I manage to move on!
>
> Keep on!!!
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Ioannis,
>
> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environ
> ment
>
> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> >
> > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have already read all these!
> > >
> > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > >
> > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > >
> > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> both???
> > >
> > > Thank you!!!
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We do document all of these things here:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > >
> > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release
> > > of JDK
> > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > NetBeans on
> > top
> > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > >
> > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > >
> > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > >
> > > All of the above is described at
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > >
> > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans
> > > 9
> > build,
> > > that's up to you.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok!!!
> > > >
> > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > >
> > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > >
> > > > What to do next?
> > > >
> > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > >
> > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Geertjan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > >
> > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> foundation:
> > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions
> > > > > > > > > as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > > > > > > > along the
> > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're
> > > > > > > > > > working on the Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> reply!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail
> > > > > > > > > > > a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of
> > > > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty
> > > > > > > > > of Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs>
> > > > > > > > > Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-cham
> > > > > > > > > pi
> > > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > > >
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Zoran Sevarac <se...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the new
contributors.
I've added your steps to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section.
I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and
growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to have
this brief info in one place.
Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as
thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats what
peopke are looking for.
Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which already
comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK.
Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them to
get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do.
Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not from
the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that perfectly makes
sense to me.
Please let me know what you think about suggested changes?
Thanks
Zoran
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Thank you John!
>
> This is what I had in mind!
>
> Maybe you can add some links
> Java SE Development Kit 8 (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html )
> Git (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> distributions.
>
> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>
> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
>
> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/)
> 2. While logged in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> 3. Fork the project to your account.
> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> incubator-netbeans.git
> 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9) choose Team>Git>Clone...
> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the local
> path to save
> 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally finish.
> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>
> ---------
> I'm up to here right now I tried
> $ant
> But I have some errors that I have to check
> I will post the next steps as I manage to move on!
>
> Keep on!!!
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Ioannis,
>
> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environment
>
> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or indeed
> let me know and I can add to the page.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> >
> > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you
> > can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
> > nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have already read all these!
> > >
> > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > >
> > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > >
> > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> both???
> > >
> > > Thank you!!!
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We do document all of these things here:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > >
> > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of
> > > JDK
> > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans
> > > on
> > top
> > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > >
> > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > >
> > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > >
> > > All of the above is described at
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > >
> > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9
> > build,
> > > that's up to you.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok!!!
> > > >
> > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > >
> > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > >
> > > > What to do next?
> > > >
> > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > >
> > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Geertjan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > >
> > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> foundation:
> > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions as
> > > > > > > > > a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/H
> > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're working
> > > > > > > > > > on the Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> reply!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi John,
What are you having trouble with?
Docker wouldn't work IMO as a developer environment, a VM would make more
sense, but then again I would consider even this to be overkill. And this
is coming from someone who only started using GIT day to day in February,
so not an expert, and only started "working" with NetBeans in October
during Jax London, up until that point I'd only ever checked out the old
mercurial repo and browsed the code.
Maybe set up a troubleshooting email thread, post what your having trouble
with there and let us help you out
John
On 30 November 2017 at 03:51, John Muczynski <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ioannis,
>
> I think that's a splendid idea to set up an image. Maybe a docker image?
> Docker seems to be getting very popular.
> I'm trying to just set up GIT for starters and having absolute trouble.
> I suppose a docker image could have everything except the keys for git.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
> --
> Johnny Muczynski
> 734-262-2045
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello John,
> >
> > Although I am the MOST GENERIC type, I think we should also provide a
> > simple step by step procedure for newbies like me.
> >
> > I would suggest setting up a vbox linux image with everything is needed.
> > Or a video to show. We can distribute the vm.
> > We can get help instantly from many many people who want to help!
> >
> > I spent 3 days to make it work. Other people may be not so patient.
> >
> > My build is fine now. The problem was that I installed JDK9 after JDK8 so
> > the default was 9. I fixed it and now is fine.
> >
> > Bye for now,
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:21 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > I've made some changes there.
> >
> > I want to keep this generic enough so that people coming from all ways of
> > working can read this and work out the first set of steps to take while
> > working with the NetBeans sources.
> >
> > What errors are you getting when building?
> >
> > So far we have seen a few issues (cant remember what the logs look like
> > but if you search the mail logs here you might find something that links
> -
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@netbeans.apache.org)
> >
> >
> > Some of the issues we have seen are:
> > 1. Problems relating to the repo not being fully cloned. Try removing
> the
> > codebase from your machine and try again 2. Build errors about a missing
> > service provider class - try performing an 'ant clean' before building
> >
> > If you cant find your error in the lists link above and an 'ant clean'
> > doesn't work maybe start a new thread here and ask if anyone else has
> come
> > across the same issue. We're all trying to get the same thing here, an
> > Apache NetBeans release but sometimes people don't read every email -
> maybe
> > an email with a subject specific to the errors you see might grab
> someones
> > attention.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 23:03, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you John!
> > >
> > > This is what I had in mind!
> > >
> > > Maybe you can add some links
> > > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > > distributions.
> > >
> > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> > >
> > > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> > >
> > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally
> > > finish.
> > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > > $ant
> > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next steps
> > > as I manage to move on!
> > >
> > > Keep on!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Ioannis,
> > >
> > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environ
> > > ment
> > >
> > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > > >
> > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have already read all these!
> > > > >
> > > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> > > both???
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > > >
> > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release
> > > > > of JDK
> > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > > NetBeans on
> > > > top
> > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > > >
> > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at
> > all:
> > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > > >
> > > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans
> > > > > 9
> > > > build,
> > > > > that's up to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What to do next?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this
> page!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > > foundation:
> > > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your
> needs.
> > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work
> > on?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions
> > > > > > > > > > > as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > > > > > > > > > along the
> > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're
> > > > > > > > > > > > working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> > > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage
> .
> > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty
> > > > > > > > > > > of Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs>
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John Muczynski <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ioannis,
I think that's a splendid idea to set up an image. Maybe a docker image?
Docker seems to be getting very popular.
I'm trying to just set up GIT for starters and having absolute trouble.
I suppose a docker image could have everything except the keys for git.
Cheers,
Johnny
--
Johnny Muczynski
734-262-2045
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> Although I am the MOST GENERIC type, I think we should also provide a
> simple step by step procedure for newbies like me.
>
> I would suggest setting up a vbox linux image with everything is needed.
> Or a video to show. We can distribute the vm.
> We can get help instantly from many many people who want to help!
>
> I spent 3 days to make it work. Other people may be not so patient.
>
> My build is fine now. The problem was that I installed JDK9 after JDK8 so
> the default was 9. I fixed it and now is fine.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> J!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:21 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> I've made some changes there.
>
> I want to keep this generic enough so that people coming from all ways of
> working can read this and work out the first set of steps to take while
> working with the NetBeans sources.
>
> What errors are you getting when building?
>
> So far we have seen a few issues (cant remember what the logs look like
> but if you search the mail logs here you might find something that links -
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@netbeans.apache.org)
>
>
> Some of the issues we have seen are:
> 1. Problems relating to the repo not being fully cloned. Try removing the
> codebase from your machine and try again 2. Build errors about a missing
> service provider class - try performing an 'ant clean' before building
>
> If you cant find your error in the lists link above and an 'ant clean'
> doesn't work maybe start a new thread here and ask if anyone else has come
> across the same issue. We're all trying to get the same thing here, an
> Apache NetBeans release but sometimes people don't read every email - maybe
> an email with a subject specific to the errors you see might grab someones
> attention.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 23:03, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you John!
> >
> > This is what I had in mind!
> >
> > Maybe you can add some links
> > Java SE Development Kit 8
> > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> > distributions.
> >
> > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
> >
> > We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
> >
> > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > 3. Fork the project to your account.
> > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> > choose Team>Git>Clone...
> > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally
> > finish.
> > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
> >
> > ---------
> > I'm up to here right now I tried
> > $ant
> > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next steps
> > as I manage to move on!
> >
> > Keep on!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Ioannis,
> >
> > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environ
> > ment
> >
> > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> > indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> > >
> > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have already read all these!
> > > >
> > > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > > >
> > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > > >
> > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> > both???
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!!!
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We do document all of these things here:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > > >
> > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release
> > > > of JDK
> > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > > NetBeans on
> > > top
> > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > > >
> > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > > >
> > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at
> all:
> > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > > >
> > > > All of the above is described at
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > > >
> > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans
> > > > 9
> > > build,
> > > > that's up to you.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > > >
> > > > > What to do next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> > foundation:
> > > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work
> on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions
> > > > > > > > > > as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > > > > > > > > along the
> > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're
> > > > > > > > > > > working on the Beta
> > > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> > reply!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail
> > > > > > > > > > > > a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou
> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > J!
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RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Hello John,
Although I am the MOST GENERIC type, I think we should also provide a simple step by step procedure for newbies like me.
I would suggest setting up a vbox linux image with everything is needed. Or a video to show. We can distribute the vm.
We can get help instantly from many many people who want to help!
I spent 3 days to make it work. Other people may be not so patient.
My build is fine now. The problem was that I installed JDK9 after JDK8 so the default was 9. I fixed it and now is fine.
Bye for now,
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:21 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
I've made some changes there.
I want to keep this generic enough so that people coming from all ways of working can read this and work out the first set of steps to take while working with the NetBeans sources.
What errors are you getting when building?
So far we have seen a few issues (cant remember what the logs look like but if you search the mail logs here you might find something that links -
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@netbeans.apache.org)
Some of the issues we have seen are:
1. Problems relating to the repo not being fully cloned. Try removing the codebase from your machine and try again 2. Build errors about a missing service provider class - try performing an 'ant clean' before building
If you cant find your error in the lists link above and an 'ant clean'
doesn't work maybe start a new thread here and ask if anyone else has come across the same issue. We're all trying to get the same thing here, an Apache NetBeans release but sometimes people don't read every email - maybe an email with a subject specific to the errors you see might grab someones attention.
Regards
John
On 29 November 2017 at 23:03, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr> wrote:
> Thank you John!
>
> This is what I had in mind!
>
> Maybe you can add some links
> Java SE Development Kit 8
> (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git
> (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> distributions.
>
> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>
> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
>
> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged
> in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> 3. Fork the project to your account.
> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9)
> choose Team>Git>Clone...
> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the
> local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally
> finish.
> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>
> ---------
> I'm up to here right now I tried
> $ant
> But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next steps
> as I manage to move on!
>
> Keep on!!!
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Ioannis,
>
> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environ
> ment
>
> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or
> indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> >
> > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory,
> > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is
> > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have already read all these!
> > >
> > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > >
> > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > >
> > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> both???
> > >
> > > Thank you!!!
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We do document all of these things here:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > >
> > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release
> > > of JDK
> > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built
> > > NetBeans on
> > top
> > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > >
> > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > >
> > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > >
> > > All of the above is described at
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > >
> > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans
> > > 9
> > build,
> > > that's up to you.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok!!!
> > > >
> > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > >
> > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > >
> > > > What to do next?
> > > >
> > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > >
> > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Geertjan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > >
> > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> foundation:
> > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions
> > > > > > > > > as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > > > > > > > along the
> > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > /H
> > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're
> > > > > > > > > > working on the Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> reply!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail
> > > > > > > > > > > a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
I've made some changes there.
I want to keep this generic enough so that people coming from all ways of
working can read this and work out the first set of steps to take while
working with the NetBeans sources.
What errors are you getting when building?
So far we have seen a few issues (cant remember what the logs look like but
if you search the mail logs here you might find something that links -
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@netbeans.apache.org)
Some of the issues we have seen are:
1. Problems relating to the repo not being fully cloned. Try removing the
codebase from your machine and try again
2. Build errors about a missing service provider class - try performing an
'ant clean' before building
If you cant find your error in the lists link above and an 'ant clean'
doesn't work maybe start a new thread here and ask if anyone else has come
across the same issue. We're all trying to get the same thing here, an
Apache NetBeans release but sometimes people don't read every email - maybe
an email with a subject specific to the errors you see might grab someones
attention.
Regards
John
On 29 November 2017 at 23:03, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr> wrote:
> Thank you John!
>
> This is what I had in mind!
>
> Maybe you can add some links
> Java SE Development Kit 8 (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/
> downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html )
> Git (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux
> https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different
> distributions.
>
> Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
>
> We should improve the "How to get started locally"
> I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
>
> 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/)
> 2. While logged in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> 3. Fork the project to your account.
> 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/
> incubator-netbeans.git
> 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9) choose Team>Git>Clone...
> 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the local
> path to save
> 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally finish.
> 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
>
> ---------
> I'm up to here right now I tried
> $ant
> But I have some errors that I have to check
> I will post the next steps as I manage to move on!
>
> Keep on!!!
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Ioannis,
>
> I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environment
>
> If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or indeed
> let me know and I can add to the page.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
> >
> > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you
> > can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
> > nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have already read all these!
> > >
> > > But you gave me a clue!!!
> > >
> > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> > >
> > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them
> both???
> > >
> > > Thank you!!!
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We do document all of these things here:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > For example, you'll find this link:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> > >
> > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of
> > > JDK
> > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans
> > > on
> > top
> > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> > >
> > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> > >
> > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> > >
> > > All of the above is described at
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> > >
> > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9
> > build,
> > > that's up to you.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok!!!
> > > >
> > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > > >
> > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > > >
> > > > What to do next?
> > > >
> > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > > >
> > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Geertjan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > > >
> > > > > So I will leave!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software
> foundation:
> > > > > > apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geertjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > > Part
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > > there:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions as
> > > > > > > > > a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/H
> > > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're working
> > > > > > > > > > on the Beta
> > > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the
> reply!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > J!
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> > > > > > > > > Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champi
> > > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by "William L. Thomson Jr." <wl...@o-sinc.com>.
I think you maybe expecting to much. Not to come off harsh, but this is
FOSS. Usually people are either scratching their own itch. Or if you
haven't one. The normal process is look at bugs, see what you can fix,
where you can help out. Sometimes it spelled out for you with steps and
guides but not always. While in general it is good to have such I have
brought it up for other communities. It is a common process for any
FOSS project really the format is pretty much the same.
How one develops or contributes to a project varies. Some may used
Netbeans to develop Netbeans. Some may use other means. That varies and
not sure there should be any one way. Again its FOSS and part of that
being do it your way. You have access to code, etc.
Very few projects produce say a task list. The ones that do tend to not
have trivial needs that new people can help out with easily. Usually
for any FOSS project the best place for any new people get their feet
wet is working bugs. Pick any bug, find a way to resolve that. Make a
PR/Bug, etc. Figure out that process which may vary.
Also the fact that Netbeans is in transition right now I would not
really bother them and let them focus on the move and the rest. Once it
is settled in its new home, doing releases etc. Then can proceed with
the rest. I doubt there is much for new people to jump in and help out
with in that process.
Netbeans is not really trivial, though very modular and well designed.
Thus practical to work on furthering an area without having to fully
grasp it all. Still I do not see it being that easy for anyone to just
jump in and contribute. I have coded in Java for ~15+ years. Most if
not entirely on Netbeans, short of some Android stuff on Android
Studio/Idea. Now working on packing it from source. The more I work
with Netbeans sources the more I realize its complexity.
I am not sure how I could contribute off hand if I wanted to. Short of
coming up with a need/itch for myself and scratching it. Or working
bugs etc. But I am not sure I could jump in an help out. Not sure any
amount of guides would help. Plus if I need all those guides to help. I
am not sure what I can do in Netbeans. If I cant figure out how to
contribute etc. I will have a very hard time with valuable
contributions.
Not to say one cannot contribute in many ways beyond code, etc. Just
saying Netbeans is not really trivial. Not sure any amount of guides or
hand holding will help new people. It is a very advanced platform.
Maybe why Oracle is handing it over to Apache. To costly to maintain.
--
William L. Thomson Jr.
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Thank you John!
This is what I had in mind!
Maybe you can add some links
Java SE Development Kit 8 (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html )
Git (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different distributions.
Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9)
We should improve the "How to get started locally"
I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it
1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/)
2. While logged in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
3. Fork the project to your account.
4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/incubator-netbeans.git
5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9) choose Team>Git>Clone...
6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the local path to save
7. Click Next , Select master then Next and finally finish.
8. Download is starting and you get your local copy.
---------
I'm up to here right now I tried
$ant
But I have some errors that I have to check
I will post the next steps as I manage to move on!
Keep on!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.john@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Ioannis,
I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environment
If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or indeed let me know and I can add to the page.
Regards
John
On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
>
> In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you
> can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
> nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > I have already read all these!
> >
> > But you gave me a clue!!!
> >
> > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> >
> > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them both???
> >
> > Thank you!!!
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > We do document all of these things here:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> >
> > For example, you'll find this link:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> >
> > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of
> > JDK
> > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans
> > on
> top
> > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> >
> > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in
> > the Apache NetBeans Git README.
> >
> > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> >
> > All of the above is described at
> > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> >
> > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9
> build,
> > that's up to you.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok!!!
> > >
> > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > >
> > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed
> > > JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > >
> > > What to do next?
> > >
> > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > >
> > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Geertjan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > >
> > > > So I will leave!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go
> > > > here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > >
> > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > >
> > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > >
> > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > > > > apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it
> > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache
> > > > > NetBeans
> > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or
> > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > Part
> > > > > > ic
> > > > > > ip
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > e
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > Beta
> > > release together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that
> > > > > > > isn't already
> > > > > > there:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put
> > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for
> > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your questions as
> > > > > > > > a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all
> > > > > > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/H
> > > > > > > > > ow+t
> > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks
> > > > > > > > > and discussions all the time, right now we're working
> > > > > > > > > on the Beta
> > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java
> > > > > > > > > is write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because
> > > > > > > > > > this is a huge
> > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend
> > > > > > > > > > some time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give
> > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions
> > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of
> > > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of
> > > > > > > > Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champi
> > > > > > > > ons>
> > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Ioannis,
I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Environment
If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or indeed
let me know and I can add to the page.
Regards
John
On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
>
> In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you can
> point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
> nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > I have already read all these!
> >
> > But you gave me a clue!!!
> >
> > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
> >
> > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them both???
> >
> > Thank you!!!
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > We do document all of these things here:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> >
> > For example, you'll find this link:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> >
> > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of JDK
> > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans on
> top
> > of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
> >
> > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in the
> > Apache NetBeans Git README.
> >
> > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
> >
> > All of the above is described at
> > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
> >
> > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9
> build,
> > that's up to you.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok!!!
> > >
> > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> > >
> > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed JDK 8
> > > and JDK 9 from oracle.
> > >
> > > What to do next?
> > >
> > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> > >
> > > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Geertjan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > > >
> > > > So I will leave!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here
> > > > and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > >
> > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > > >
> > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > > 4 Download this
> > > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > > >
> > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > > > > apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently
> > > > > does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Geertjan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features
> > > > > > you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Part
> > > > > > ic
> > > > > > ip
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > e
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> > > release together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > > > > already
> > > > > > there:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which
> > > > > > > > should include all your questions as a new contributor, with
> > > > > > > > all the answers you learn along the
> > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is
> > > > > > > > > write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this
> > > > > > > > > > is a huge
> > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some
> > > > > > > > > > time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information
> > > > > > > > > > to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of
> > > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of
> > > > > > > > Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork.
In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, you can
point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is found in
nbbuild/netbeans/etc.
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> I have already read all these!
>
> But you gave me a clue!!!
>
> I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
>
> When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them both???
>
> Thank you!!!
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> We do document all of these things here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>
> For example, you'll find this link:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
>
> The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of JDK
> 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans on top
> of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
>
> You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in the
> Apache NetBeans Git README.
>
> You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
> builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
>
> All of the above is described at
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
>
> You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9 build,
> that's up to you.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok!!!
> >
> > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
> >
> > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed JDK 8
> > and JDK 9 from oracle.
> >
> > What to do next?
> >
> > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
> >
> > How do you choose which JDK to be used?
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > No, nobody is not calling you smart.
> >
> > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geertjan
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> > >
> > > So I will leave!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here
> > > and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > >
> > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > > >
> > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > > >
> > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > > >
> > > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > > >
> > > > 1. you need Ant
> > > > 2 install JDK8
> > > > 3 install JDK9
> > > > 4 Download this
> > > > 5 install that!!!
> > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Hello Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > > >
> > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > > > apache.org
> > > >
> > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently
> > > > does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > > >
> > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Geertjan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > > >
> > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > > >
> > > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features
> > > > > you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > > >
> > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Part
> > > > > ic
> > > > > ip
> > > > > at
> > > > > e
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> > release together:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > > > already
> > > > > there:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which
> > > > > > > should include all your questions as a new contributor, with
> > > > > > > all the answers you learn along the
> > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > > Beta
> > > > > release together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is
> > > > > > > > write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this
> > > > > > > > > is a huge
> > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some
> > > > > > > > > time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information
> > > > > > > > > to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of
> > > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of
> > > > > > > Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
I have already read all these!
But you gave me a clue!!!
I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork?
When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have them both???
Thank you!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
We do document all of these things here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
For example, you'll find this link:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of JDK 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans on top of JDK 8 or JDK 9.
You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in the Apache NetBeans Git README.
You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
All of the above is described at
cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9 build, that's up to you.
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Ok!!!
>
> Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
>
> I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed JDK 8
> and JDK 9 from oracle.
>
> What to do next?
>
> Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
>
> How do you choose which JDK to be used?
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> No, nobody is not calling you smart.
>
> I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> >
> > So I will leave!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here
> > and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > >
> > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > >
> > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > >
> > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > >
> > > 1. you need Ant
> > > 2 install JDK8
> > > 3 install JDK9
> > > 4 Download this
> > > 5 install that!!!
> > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > >
> > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Hello Ioannis,
> > >
> > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > >
> > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > > apache.org
> > >
> > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs.
> > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently
> > > does not do? What features would you like to work on?
> > >
> > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Geertjan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > >
> > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > >
> > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features
> > > > you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > >
> > > > How to get involved:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Part
> > > > ic
> > > > ip
> > > > at
> > > > e
> > > >
> > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> release together:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > > already
> > > > there:
> > > > >
> > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which
> > > > > > should include all your questions as a new contributor, with
> > > > > > all the answers you learn along the
> > > > > way.
> > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+t
> > > > > > > o+
> > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is
> > > > > > > write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this
> > > > > > > > is a huge
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some
> > > > > > > > time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information
> > > > > > > > to new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a
> > > > > > > > WIKI page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of
> > > > > > Software Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of
> > > > > > Organisational Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
We do document all of these things here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
For example, you'll find this link:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and release of JDK 8)
to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built NetBeans on top of
JDK 8 or JDK 9.
You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained in the
Apache NetBeans Git README.
You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build at all:
builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux
All of the above is described at
cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS.
You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache NetBeans 9 build,
that's up to you.
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Ok!!!
>
> Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
>
> I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed JDK 8 and
> JDK 9 from oracle.
>
> What to do next?
>
> Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
>
> How do you choose which JDK to be used?
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> No, nobody is not calling you smart.
>
> I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
> >
> > So I will leave!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here and
> > read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> > >
> > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> > >
> > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> > >
> > > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> > >
> > > 1. you need Ant
> > > 2 install JDK8
> > > 3 install JDK9
> > > 4 Download this
> > > 5 install that!!!
> > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> > >
> > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Hello Ioannis,
> > >
> > > We don't call each other idiots here.
> > >
> > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > > apache.org
> > >
> > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What
> > > would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not
> > > do? What features would you like to work on?
> > >
> > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Geertjan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why you are so idiots???
> > > >
> > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > > >
> > > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features
> > > > you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > > >
> > > > How to get involved:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Partic
> > > > ip
> > > > at
> > > > e
> > > >
> > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> release together:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > > already
> > > > there:
> > > > >
> > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should
> > > > > > include all your questions as a new contributor, with all the
> > > > > > answers you learn along the
> > > > > way.
> > > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Zoran
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > projects:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > > rt
> > > > > > > ic
> > > > > > > ip
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > > Beta
> > > > release together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is
> > > > > > > write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is
> > > > > > > > a huge
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some
> > > > > > > > time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to
> > > > > > > > new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI
> > > > > > > > page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > > > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Ok!!!
Let's start over! Sorry for being rude!
I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle.
What to do next?
Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2?
How do you choose which JDK to be used?
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
No, nobody is not calling you smart.
I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
>
> So I will leave!
>
> J!
>
> PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here and
> read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> >
> > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> >
> > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> >
> > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> >
> > 1. you need Ant
> > 2 install JDK8
> > 3 install JDK9
> > 4 Download this
> > 5 install that!!!
> > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> >
> > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Hello Ioannis,
> >
> > We don't call each other idiots here.
> >
> > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > apache.org
> >
> > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What
> > would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not
> > do? What features would you like to work on?
> >
> > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geertjan
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Why you are so idiots???
> > >
> > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > >
> > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features
> > > you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > >
> > > How to get involved:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Partic
> > > ip
> > > at
> > > e
> > >
> > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > >
> > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > already
> > > there:
> > > >
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > >
> > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should
> > > > > include all your questions as a new contributor, with all the
> > > > > answers you learn along the
> > > > way.
> > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Zoran
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > projects:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+
> > > > > > Pa
> > > > > > rt
> > > > > > ic
> > > > > > ip
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > e
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the
> > > > > > Beta
> > > release together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is
> > > > > > write once, run anywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is
> > > > > > > a huge
> > > > > project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some
> > > > > > > time to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to
> > > > > > > new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI
> > > > > > > page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
No, nobody is not calling you smart.
I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions.
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
>
> So I will leave!
>
> J!
>
> PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here and
> read the README, it tells you exactly that:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
> >
> > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
> >
> > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
> >
> > What I need is very simple a list!!!
> >
> > 1. you need Ant
> > 2 install JDK8
> > 3 install JDK9
> > 4 Download this
> > 5 install that!!!
> > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
> >
> > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Hello Ioannis,
> >
> > We don't call each other idiots here.
> >
> > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> > apache.org
> >
> > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What
> > would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not
> > do? What features would you like to work on?
> >
> > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geertjan
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Why you are so idiots???
> > >
> > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> > >
> > > Why you keep posting that!!!
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you
> > > want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> > >
> > > How to get involved:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Particip
> > > at
> > > e
> > >
> > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > > >
> > > > I'm out of here!!!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > > already
> > > there:
> > > >
> > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > > >
> > > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should
> > > > > include all your questions as a new contributor, with all the
> > > > > answers you learn along the
> > > > way.
> > > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Zoran
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > projects:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Pa
> > > > > > rt
> > > > > > ic
> > > > > > ip
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > e
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> > > release together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > > > > once, run anywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a
> > > > > > > huge
> > > > > project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time
> > > > > > > to help community help you!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to
> > > > > > > new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI
> > > > > > > page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > > | Java Champion
> > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you!
So I will leave!
J!
PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it!
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
>
> But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
>
> To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
>
> What I need is very simple a list!!!
>
> 1. you need Ant
> 2 install JDK8
> 3 install JDK9
> 4 Download this
> 5 install that!!!
> 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
>
> Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
>
> J!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hello Ioannis,
>
> We don't call each other idiots here.
>
> NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> apache.org
>
> What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What
> would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not
> do? What features would you like to work on?
>
> We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Why you are so idiots???
> >
> > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> >
> > Why you keep posting that!!!
> >
> > ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you
> > want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> >
> > How to get involved:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Particip
> > at
> > e
> >
> > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > >
> > > I'm out of here!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't
> > > already
> > there:
> > >
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > >
> > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > >
> > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > >
> > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a
> > > > wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should
> > > > include all your questions as a new contributor, with all the
> > > > answers you learn along the
> > > way.
> > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Zoran
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other
> > > > > Apache
> > > > projects:
> > > > >
> > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Pa
> > > > > rt
> > > > > ic
> > > > > ip
> > > > > at
> > > > > e
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> > release together:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > >
> > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > > > once, run anywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a
> > > > > > huge
> > > > project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time
> > > > > > to help community help you!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to
> > > > > > new people who want to get involved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI
> > > > > > page must be inserted!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > > > > > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > | Java Champion
> > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > | NetBeans Dream Team
> > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- go here and read
the README, it tells you exactly that:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks.
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
>
> But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
>
> To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
>
> What I need is very simple a list!!!
>
> 1. you need Ant
> 2 install JDK8
> 3 install JDK9
> 4 Download this
> 5 install that!!!
> 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
>
> Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
>
> J!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hello Ioannis,
>
> We don't call each other idiots here.
>
> NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
> apache.org
>
> What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What would
> you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not do? What
> features would you like to work on?
>
> We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
> (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Why you are so idiots???
> >
> > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
> >
> > Why you keep posting that!!!
> >
> > ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you
> > want to implement. What would you like to work on?
> >
> > How to get involved:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participat
> > e
> >
> > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> > >
> > > I'm out of here!!!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already
> > there:
> > >
> > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Zoran,
> > > >
> > > > This a very good idea!!!
> > > >
> > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > > >
> > > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki
> > > > page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include
> > > > all your questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you
> > > > learn along the
> > > way.
> > > > You can start by creating that page
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Zoran
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> > > > projects:
> > > > >
> > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > > >
> > > > > How to get involved:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Part
> > > > > ic
> > > > > ip
> > > > > at
> > > > > e
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> > release together:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > > >
> > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > > > once, run anywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a
> > > > > > huge
> > > > project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time
> > > > > > to help community help you!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > > > > people who want to get involved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > > > > must be inserted!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info
> > > > > > how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiki
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > > | Java Champion
> > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!!
But 4 people replied told me the same thing!!
To be in this mailing list means that I have read this page!!!!
What I need is very simple a list!!!
1. you need Ant
2 install JDK8
3 install JDK9
4 Download this
5 install that!!!
6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!!
Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Hello Ioannis,
We don't call each other idiots here.
NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
apache.org
What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not do? What features would you like to work on?
We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
(incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Why you are so idiots???
>
> Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>
> Why you keep posting that!!!
>
> ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you
> want to implement. What would you like to work on?
>
> How to get involved:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participat
> e
>
> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> >
> > I'm out of here!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already
> there:
> >
> > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Zoran,
> > >
> > > This a very good idea!!!
> > >
> > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > >
> > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Hi Ioannis,
> > >
> > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki
> > > page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include
> > > all your questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you
> > > learn along the
> > way.
> > > You can start by creating that page
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> > > projects:
> > > >
> > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > >
> > > > How to get involved:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Part
> > > > ic
> > > > ip
> > > > at
> > > > e
> > > >
> > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> release together:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > >
> > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > > once, run anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > >
> > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a
> > > > > huge
> > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time
> > > > > to help community help you!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > > > people who want to get involved.
> > > > >
> > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > > > must be inserted!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info
> > > > > how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > >
> > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > >
> > > > > Wiki
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Antonio
> > > > >
> > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > | Java Champion
> > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Hello Ioannis,
We don't call each other idiots here.
NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software foundation:
apache.org
What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your needs. What would
you like NetBeans to be able to do that it currently does not do? What
features would you like to work on?
We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache NetBeans
(incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Why you are so idiots???
>
> Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>
> Why you keep posting that!!!
>
> ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you want
> to implement. What would you like to work on?
>
> How to get involved:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>
> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions all
> the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > So I guess you don't need anything!!!
> >
> > I'm out of here!!!
> >
> > J!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already
> there:
> >
> > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Zoran,
> > >
> > > This a very good idea!!!
> > >
> > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> > >
> > > How can I start this wiki page?
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Hi Ioannis,
> > >
> > > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki
> > > page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all
> > > your questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > > along the
> > way.
> > > You can start by creating that page
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Zoran
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> > > projects:
> > > >
> > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > > >
> > > > How to get involved:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Partic
> > > > ip
> > > > at
> > > > e
> > > >
> > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta
> release together:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > > >
> > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > > once, run anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello again!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > > >
> > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge
> > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to
> > > > > help community help you!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > > > people who want to get involved.
> > > > >
> > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > > > must be inserted!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info
> > > > > how to build (If I have to build )
> > > > >
> > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > > >
> > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > > >
> > > > > Wiki
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Antonio
> > > > >
> > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > > | Java Champion
> > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Why you are so idiots???
Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
Why you keep posting that!!!
?
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you want to implement. What would you like to work on?
How to get involved:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> So I guess you don't need anything!!!
>
> I'm out of here!!!
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already there:
>
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Zoran,
> >
> > This a very good idea!!!
> >
> > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> >
> > How can I start this wiki page?
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Hi Ioannis,
> >
> > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki
> > page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all
> > your questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn
> > along the
> way.
> > You can start by creating that page
> >
> > Cheers
> > Zoran
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> > projects:
> > >
> > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > >
> > > How to get involved:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Partic
> > > ip
> > > at
> > > e
> > >
> > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and
> > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write
> > > once, run anywhere.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello again!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > >
> > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge
> > project.
> > > >
> > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to
> > > > help community help you!!!
> > > >
> > > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > > people who want to get involved.
> > > >
> > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > > must be inserted!!!
> > > >
> > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info
> > > > how to build (If I have to build )
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > >
> > > > Wiki
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Antonio
> > > >
> > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational
> > Sciences < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph
> > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > | Java Champion
> > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or features you want
to implement. What would you like to work on?
How to get involved:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions all
the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> So I guess you don't need anything!!!
>
> I'm out of here!!!
>
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already there:
>
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Zoran,
> >
> > This a very good idea!!!
> >
> > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
> >
> > How can I start this wiki page?
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Hi Ioannis,
> >
> > The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki page
> > for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all your
> > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along the
> way.
> > You can start by creating that page
> >
> > Cheers
> > Zoran
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> > projects:
> > >
> > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> > >
> > > How to get involved:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Particip
> > > at
> > > e
> > >
> > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> > >
> > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once,
> > > run anywhere.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello again!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > > >
> > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge
> > project.
> > > >
> > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to
> > > > help community help you!!!
> > > >
> > > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > > people who want to get involved.
> > > >
> > > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > > must be inserted!!!
> > > >
> > > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how
> > > > to build (If I have to build )
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > > >
> > > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > > >
> > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > > >
> > > > Wiki
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > > action?pageId=65873923
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Antonio
> > > >
> > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help will be great!
> > > > >
> > > > > J!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
> > < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> > | Java Champion
> > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
> >
> >
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
So I guess you don't need anything!!!
I'm out of here!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already there:
cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Hi Zoran,
>
> This a very good idea!!!
>
> I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
>
> How can I start this wiki page?
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hi Ioannis,
>
> The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki page
> for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all your
> questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along the way.
> You can start by creating that page
>
> Cheers
> Zoran
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> projects:
> >
> > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > How to get involved:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Particip
> > at
> > e
> >
> > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once,
> > run anywhere.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello again!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > >
> > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge
> project.
> > >
> > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to
> > > help community help you!!!
> > >
> > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > people who want to get involved.
> > >
> > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page
> > > must be inserted!!!
> > >
> > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how
> > > to build (If I have to build )
> > >
> > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > >
> > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > >
> > > Wiki
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > action?pageId=65873923
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Antonio
> > >
> > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > >
> > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > >
> > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > >
> > > > Any help will be great!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software
> Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
> < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder
> | Java Champion
> <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that isn't already there:
cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS
Gj
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Hi Zoran,
>
> This a very good idea!!!
>
> I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
>
> How can I start this wiki page?
>
> J!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hi Ioannis,
>
> The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki page for
> 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all your questions
> as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along the way.
> You can start by creating that page
>
> Cheers
> Zoran
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache
> projects:
> >
> > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > How to get involved:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participat
> > e
> >
> > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> > all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
> >
> > Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once,
> > run anywhere.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> > <jo...@ionio.gr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello again!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> > >
> > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge
> project.
> > >
> > > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help
> > > community help you!!!
> > >
> > > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > > people who want to get involved.
> > >
> > > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must
> > > be inserted!!!
> > >
> > > Which Operating system should I have!
> > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how to
> > > build (If I have to build )
> > >
> > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> > >
> > > Welcome, Ioannis,
> > >
> > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> > >
> > > Wiki
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> > action?pageId=65873923
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Antonio
> > >
> > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > > Hello everybody!!!
> > > >
> > > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > > >
> > > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > > >
> > > > Any help will be great!
> > > >
> > > > J!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
> Department of Software Engineering
> University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <
> http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder |
> Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
> Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Hi Zoran,
This a very good idea!!!
I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!!
How can I start this wiki page?
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:sevarac@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Hi Ioannis,
The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all your questions as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along the way.
You can start by creating that page
Cheers
Zoran
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache projects:
>
> github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> How to get involved:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participat
> e
>
> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions
> all the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once,
> run anywhere.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou
> <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello again!!!
> >
> > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> >
> > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
> >
> > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help
> > community help you!!!
> >
> > Some people should stop production and give information to new
> > people who want to get involved.
> >
> > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must
> > be inserted!!!
> >
> > Which Operating system should I have!
> > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how to
> > build (If I have to build )
> >
> > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Welcome, Ioannis,
> >
> > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> >
> > Wiki
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> action?pageId=65873923
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > Hello everybody!!!
> > >
> > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > >
> > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > >
> > > Any help will be great!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> >
> >
>
--
Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
Department of Software Engineering
University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences <http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder | Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Zoran Sevarac <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ioannis,
The great way to contribute would be that you put together a wiki page for
'Getting Started for Contributors' which should include all your questions
as a new contributor, with all the answers you learn along the way.
You can start by creating that page
Cheers
Zoran
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache projects:
>
> github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> How to get involved:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>
> Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions all
> the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
>
> Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once, run
> anywhere.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello again!!!
> >
> > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
> >
> > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
> >
> > But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help
> > community help you!!!
> >
> > Some people should stop production and give information to new people who
> > want to get involved.
> >
> > And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be
> > inserted!!!
> >
> > Which Operating system should I have!
> > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> > Info how to build (If I have to build )
> >
> > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
> >
> > J!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
> >
> > Welcome, Ioannis,
> >
> > You may want to take a look at our wiki at
> >
> > Wiki
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> action?pageId=65873923
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > > Hello everybody!!!
> > >
> > > I'm new here willing to help!
> > >
> > > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> > >
> > > Any help will be great!
> > >
> > > J!
> > >
> >
> >
>
--
Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor
Department of Software Engineering
University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences
<http://www.fon.rs>
Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder | Java Champion
<https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> | NetBeans
Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam>
Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
How to build etc is all in the README, like for all other Apache projects:
github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
How to get involved:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and discussions all
the time, right now we're working on the Beta release together:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
Which operating system? Any operating system -- Java is write once, run
anywhere.
Gj
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>
wrote:
> Hello again!!!
>
> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>
> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>
> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help
> community help you!!!
>
> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who
> want to get involved.
>
> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be
> inserted!!!
>
> Which Operating system should I have!
> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> Info how to build (If I have to build )
>
> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>
> J!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Welcome, Ioannis,
>
> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>
> Wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> > Hello everybody!!!
> >
> > I'm new here willing to help!
> >
> > I don't know where to start and what to do!
> >
> > Any help will be great!
> >
> > J!
> >
>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi Jake,
There's a page here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
Thanks,
Antonio
El 28/11/17 a las 21:31, Jake Pogorelec escribió:
> I can put together a logo where do I submit it?
>
> Jake Pogorelec
> NTA Life | Programmer
> (972) 532-2119
> Jake.Pogorelec@ntalife.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ioannis Torounoglou [mailto:john.torounoglou@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ioannis Torounoglou
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:20 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hello Antonio!!!
>
> LOL!!! I was thinking to help as a programmer!!!
> J!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:45 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Hi Ioannis,
>
> You're not bothering. We're busy because this is the end of the year and everybody wants things finished by the end of the year.
>
> So you want to get involved? How good are you at designing logos? We've got a NetBeans logo contest at [1].
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-145?filter=allopenissues
>
>
> El 28/11/17 a las 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>> Hello again!!!
>>
>> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>>
>> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>>
>> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
>>
>> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
>>
>> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>>
>> Which Operating system should I have!
>> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how to
>> build (If I have to build )
>>
>> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>>
>> J!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>>
>> Welcome, Ioannis,
>>
>> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>>
>> Wiki
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873
>> 923
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>>> Hello everybody!!!
>>>
>>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>>
>>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>>
>>> Any help will be great!
>>>
>>> J!
>>>
>>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Jake Pogorelec <Ja...@ntalife.com>.
I can put together a logo where do I submit it?
Jake Pogorelec
NTA Life | Programmer
(972) 532-2119
Jake.Pogorelec@ntalife.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ioannis Torounoglou [mailto:john.torounoglou@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ioannis Torounoglou
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:20 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Hello Antonio!!!
LOL!!! I was thinking to help as a programmer!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:45 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Hi Ioannis,
You're not bothering. We're busy because this is the end of the year and everybody wants things finished by the end of the year.
So you want to get involved? How good are you at designing logos? We've got a NetBeans logo contest at [1].
Cheers,
Antonio
[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-145?filter=allopenissues
El 28/11/17 a las 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> Hello again!!!
>
> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>
> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>
> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
>
> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
>
> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>
> Which Operating system should I have!
> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.) Info how to
> build (If I have to build )
>
> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>
> J!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Welcome, Ioannis,
>
> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>
> Wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873
> 923
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>> Hello everybody!!!
>>
>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>
>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>
>> Any help will be great!
>>
>> J!
>>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Hello Antonio!!!
LOL!!! I was thinking to help as a programmer!!!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:45 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Hi Ioannis,
You're not bothering. We're busy because this is the end of the year and everybody wants things finished by the end of the year.
So you want to get involved? How good are you at designing logos? We've got a NetBeans logo contest at [1].
Cheers,
Antonio
[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-145?filter=allopenissues
El 28/11/17 a las 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> Hello again!!!
>
> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>
> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>
> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
>
> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
>
> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>
> Which Operating system should I have!
> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> Info how to build (If I have to build )
>
> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>
> J!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Welcome, Ioannis,
>
> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>
> Wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>> Hello everybody!!!
>>
>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>
>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>
>> Any help will be great!
>>
>> J!
>>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi Ioannis,
You're not bothering. We're busy because this is the end of the year and
everybody wants things finished by the end of the year.
So you want to get involved? How good are you at designing logos? We've
got a NetBeans logo contest at [1].
Cheers,
Antonio
[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-145?filter=allopenissues
El 28/11/17 a las 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> Hello again!!!
>
> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>
> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>
> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
>
> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
>
> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>
> Which Operating system should I have!
> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> Info how to build (If I have to build )
>
> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>
> J!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Welcome, Ioannis,
>
> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>
> Wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>> Hello everybody!!!
>>
>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>
>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>
>> Any help will be great!
>>
>> J!
>>
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Delfi Ramirez <de...@delfiramirez.info>.
agreed.
no bother at all. A sophisticated platform needs more than six hands.
Nice proposal.
On 28/11/2017 16:14, Ioannis Torounoglou wrote:
> Hello again!!!
>
> Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
>
> I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
>
> But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
>
> Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
>
> And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
>
> Which Operating system should I have!
> Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
> Info how to build (If I have to build )
>
> PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
>
> J!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
>
> Welcome, Ioannis,
>
> You may want to take a look at our wiki at
>
> Wiki
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
>> Hello everybody!!!
>>
>> I'm new here willing to help!
>>
>> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>>
>> Any help will be great!
>>
>> J!
>>
>
RE: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Ioannis Torounoglou <jo...@ionio.gr>.
Hello again!!!
Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for the reply!
I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy because this is a huge project.
But if YOU want a community project you mast spend some time to help community help you!!!
Some people should stop production and give information to new people who want to get involved.
And because these info is not to be sent to e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!!
Which Operating system should I have!
Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which versions etc.)
Info how to build (If I have to build )
PLEASE HELP us to HELP you!
J!
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio [mailto:antonio@vieiro.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Welcome, Ioannis,
You may want to take a look at our wiki at
Wiki
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
Cheers,
Antonio
El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> Hello everybody!!!
>
> I'm new here willing to help!
>
> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>
> Any help will be great!
>
> J!
>
Re: Newbie On Board!!!
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Welcome, Ioannis,
You may want to take a look at our wiki at
Wiki
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873923
Cheers,
Antonio
El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou escribió:
> Hello everybody!!!
>
> I'm new here willing to help!
>
> I don't know where to start and what to do!
>
> Any help will be great!
>
> J!
>