Web Site

[Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>]

Hello,

I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.

I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
running.

I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours,
the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do
not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
mock ups are fine.

We can start brain storming here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas

Samer

Re: Web Site

[Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>]

On 5/30/13 4:14 AM, Kadal Amutham wrote:
> Great! I have started the discussion with some questions.
> 

I recommend to take a look on flex.apache.org to get some inspiration. I
am sure we can learn from them or can benefit from their experience.

I like this page very much.

Juergen


> With Warm Regards
> 
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
> 
> 
> On 30 May 2013 02:30, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
>> the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.
>>
>> I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
>> running.
>>
>> I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours,
>> the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do
>> not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
>> mock ups are fine.
>>
>> We can start brain storming here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas
>>
>> Samer
>>
> 


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Re: Web Site

[Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com>]

Great! I have started the discussion with some questions.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480


On 30 May 2013 02:30, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
> the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.
>
> I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
> running.
>
> I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours,
> the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do
> not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
> mock ups are fine.
>
> We can start brain storming here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas
>
> Samer
>

Re: Web Site

[Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>]

Hi

In this point, i wish to share my experience about site. One step
before to give a general context of what i will speak.

In Brazil, we had problems with the brand "OpenOffice", because a
company already registered the brand some years(1998) before of
OOo(2000), so we changed the name to BrOffice.org. Was I that compiled
by ~7 years the BrOffice for brazilian users. In there time, the
federal gov had a clean support line for open source and open
standards. As we had our binaries, problems with mirrors, a different
marketing strategy from core, and others, we did the choice of make a
CMS (and all other fronts) out of OOo infra.

We made a portal only with pt-BR content, where we agregated around
2.2 M of unique users/year and around 12k visits/day. This numbers
based in ~90% only from Brazil. ~10% was visits from other parts of
the world.

Based in this volume, i spoke with an friend - Frederik van Amstel -
that is a information architect, and we did a long study of usability
of broffice site, comparing with others native lang projects, and with
others big projects, interacting with final user, to see a best way to
build a site that attempt the colaborative  and market requests. This
was his master degree work, and source for a new concept of webdesign:
"free design".

At final, after all problems with the fork of LibO, uncertain of OOo
project and all, the reformulation of Broo site was dropped. This was
the last status of Broo project[1].
[1]https://speakerdeck.com/filhocf/marketing-strategies-for-developing-countries-the-broffice-dot-org-case

Anyway, I believe that is a good idea understand more that a CMS or up
some pages. Is necessary to see the user need and how he can interact
with our site to find the fast as possible what he wish and return
with a satisfaction in use this service, adding value to our desktop
product.

In this way, i suggest that we see what we wish. Some things that i think are:

* support for wide design - from a study of information architecture
we can do a draw/mockup and the tool returns our wishes (give easy way
to do this draws, like creation of templates);
* support for translation - after we see the core content, find an
easy way to translate this content for any language;
* support for dedicated spaces - e.g. for native langs, i can do a
customized space - if is the wish of there local community - to put
them special contents, like news, events, etc.

If someone have some curiosity about this work, bellow have some
references (in pt-BR, unhappily, but some pictures can help to
understand).
http://www.slideshare.net/usabilidoido/arquitetura-da-informacao-participativa-do-portal-broffice-org
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1497501&dl=ACM&coll=DL&CFID=333837345&CFTOKEN=83037928
http://www.academia.edu/656676/Arquitetura_da_Informacao_Participativa_do_Portal_BrOffice._org

Best,
Claudio

2013/5/29 Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
> the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.
>
> I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
> running.
>
> I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours,
> the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do
> not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
> mock ups are fine.
>
> We can start brain storming here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas
>
> Samer

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Re: Web Site

[Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com>]

Yes, really this site looks great. The logo is very trendy and catchy.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480


On 30 May 2013 17:30, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
> > the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.
> >
> > I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
> > running.
> >
> > I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum,
> colours,
> > the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing,
> do
> > not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
> > mock ups are fine.
> >
>
> As you know, what we have on the website today, at least for the
> static content (non-wiki) sections is a mashup of HTML/MDTEXT with CSS
> and header/footer/nav provided by the CMS template.   So the basic
> page looks something like this:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
>
> My guess is we'll want to play with all three layers here, and do so
> in a way that does not interfere with the existing website.  So we
> might want to ask Infra for a separate CMS target to play with, that
> can have its own templates, etc.,   We could, for example, have a
> /site-test in SVN that maps to an www-test.openoffice.org, or
> something like that.
>
>
> > We can start brain storming here:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas
> >
>
> I gave some input on the larger topic here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan
>
> My main complaints were around visual consistency and the difficulty
> of maintaining native language websites.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Samer
>
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Re: Web Site

[Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>]

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since
> the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week.
>
> I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have
> running.
>
> I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours,
> the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do
> not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet.  jpeg or png
> mock ups are fine.
>

As you know, what we have on the website today, at least for the
static content (non-wiki) sections is a mashup of HTML/MDTEXT with CSS
and header/footer/nav provided by the CMS template.   So the basic
page looks something like this:

http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html

My guess is we'll want to play with all three layers here, and do so
in a way that does not interfere with the existing website.  So we
might want to ask Infra for a separate CMS target to play with, that
can have its own templates, etc.,   We could, for example, have a
/site-test in SVN that maps to an www-test.openoffice.org, or
something like that.


> We can start brain storming here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas
>

I gave some input on the larger topic here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan

My main complaints were around visual consistency and the difficulty
of maintaining native language websites.

-Rob


> Samer

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