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advice on building front-end rapidly
Hello:
I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad. It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good. Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like? If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know. If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages? I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue. Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
Regards,
Farshad
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Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
Vi
just kidding, it is monday you know :)
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Farshad Rabbani
<fa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
>
>
> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad. It is a very slow and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly as I want and also to format the page so it looks good. Is there a tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see what the outcome will look like? If there is such a tool that you are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let me know. If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your pages? I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself spending unnecessary time on this issue. Thank you all in advance, any advice is very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Farshad
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live.
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009
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RE: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Farshad Rabbani <fa...@hotmail.com>.
Thanks Bill, I will definitely look into it!
> I use Eclipse enterprise edition:
>
> http://eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise
>
> - Bill
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani
> <fa...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> >
> > > Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> > > understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
> >
> >
> > So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> > custom tags etc.?
> >
> >
> >
> > > That's what themes and templates are for.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> > themes and templates?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Farshad
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> >
> > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
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Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Bill Bohnenberger <bi...@gmail.com>.
I use Eclipse enterprise edition:
http://eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise
- Bill
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani
<fa...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> > Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> > understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
> > That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
>
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Ronny Løvtangen <li...@lovtangen.com>.
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bill Bohnenberger wrote:
> I suggest you avoid
> using MS Word to generate HTML, however, otherwise you will find the
> "clean
> it up" phase rather daunting :)
From what I remember, DreamWeaver has a "clean up Word HTML" menu item.
Says something about the ugliness of the Word generated HTML ;)
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Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Bill Bohnenberger <bi...@gmail.com>.
Yes, this is frequently my workflow, also. I happen to use Dreamweaver
because I am familiar with it and have it and it generates fairly clean
HTML, but any such wysiwig editor would do I am sure. I suggest you avoid
using MS Word to generate HTML, however, otherwise you will find the "clean
it up" phase rather daunting :)
- Bill
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Burton Rhodes <bu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I would agree with eclipse as well. However, if you are trying to do
> design too, the typical cycle is you create 'dumb HTML' pages in a
> wysiwyg editor. Then clean up the code in eclipse and convert to JSP.
> A wysiwyg editor will most likely create bloated code. So you will
> have to clean up quite a bit, add CSS, etc. This makes dev in eclipse
> easier becuase you have a base to start from.
>
> On 11/9/09, Fernandes Celinio <cf...@sopragroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM [mailto:Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM]
> > Envoyé : lundi 9 novembre 2009 15:15
> > À : Struts Users Mailing List
> > Objet : Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
> >
> > http://netbeans.org
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >>
> >>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
> >>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
> >>
> >>
> >> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> >> custom tags etc.?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> That's what themes and templates are for.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> >> themes and templates?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Farshad
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> >> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
> >> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
> >
> >
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Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Burton Rhodes <bu...@gmail.com>.
I would agree with eclipse as well. However, if you are trying to do
design too, the typical cycle is you create 'dumb HTML' pages in a
wysiwyg editor. Then clean up the code in eclipse and convert to JSP.
A wysiwyg editor will most likely create bloated code. So you will
have to clean up quite a bit, add CSS, etc. This makes dev in eclipse
easier becuase you have a base to start from.
On 11/9/09, Fernandes Celinio <cf...@sopragroup.com> wrote:
>
> I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM [mailto:Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM]
> Envoyé : lundi 9 novembre 2009 15:15
> À : Struts Users Mailing List
> Objet : Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
>
> http://netbeans.org
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>>
>>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
>>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>>
>>
>> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
>> custom tags etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
>> themes and templates?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Farshad
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
>> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
>> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
>
>
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RE: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Fernandes Celinio <cf...@sopragroup.com>.
I would recommend Eclipse. www.eclipse.org
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM [mailto:Terry.Gardner@Sun.COM]
Envoyé : lundi 9 novembre 2009 15:15
À : Struts Users Mailing List
Objet : Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
http://netbeans.org
On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit
>> and understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP,
> custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to
> themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL
> :en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
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Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Terry Gardner <Te...@Sun.COM>.
http://netbeans.org
On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Farshad Rabbani wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
>> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can
>> edit and
>> understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
>
>
> So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand
> JSP, custom tags etc.?
>
>
>
>> That's what themes and templates are for.
>
>
>
> Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards
> to themes and templates?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Farshad
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
RE: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Farshad Rabbani <fa...@hotmail.com>.
Hi Dave,
> Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
> understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
So, what would your recommend as something to edit and understand JSP, custom tags etc.?
> That's what themes and templates are for.
Do you have any specific resources you can guide me to with regards to themes and templates?
Thanks,
Farshad
_________________________________________________________________
Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop.
http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009
Re: advice on building front-end rapidly
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@yahoo.com>.
Farshad Rabbani wrote:
> I am currently building all my JSPs using notepad.
Why?! At the very least why wouldn't you use something that can edit and
understand JSP, custom tags, etc.?
> It is a very slow
> and tedius process to get the struts tags to align and show exactly
> as I want and also to format the page so it looks good.
That's what themes and templates are for.
> Is there a
> tool - something that will allow me to quickly build well-designed
> pages by providing me with a WYSIWYG interface where I can drag and
> drop struts elements, format them and the page easily and then see
> what the outcome will look like? If there is such a tool that you
> are using (and it is easy to configure etc. :-) ) can you please let
> me know. If there isn't, how exactly are you all building your
> pages? I apologize if this is an absurd question but I find myself
> spending unnecessary time on this issue.
No, there's no WYSIWYG tool. Nor do I believe you should want one--they
almost never work well.
Dave
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