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Re: [Xerces Wiki] Update of "August2007" by GarethReakes
Gareth, etc,
On Aug 20, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Apache Wiki (Gareth Reakes) wrote:
> === Xerces-C ===
> +
> + We have still not managed to get enough interest from the
> community to test the new build system on enough platforms to feel
> comfortable releasing 3.0. There has recently been interest in a
> 2.8 release with some performance and bug related patches in. Boris
> Kolpackov has volunteered to be release manager and we aim to
> release this in the next few weeks. No new committers or
> significant development.
It seems like Xerces-C 3.0 doesn't have enough visibility to get the
attention it needs to fix build issues. What if we were just to
release the ***mned thing and let those who want to use it contribute
patches to make it build on those platforms they want it to build
on??? I'd love to see 3.0 get out the door, with promise of 3.0.1,
etc as needed to fix build issues, than to never have 3.0 get out the
door.
James
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Re: [Xerces Wiki] Update of "August2007" by GarethReakes
Posted by Boris Kolpackov <bo...@codesynthesis.com>.
Hi James,
James Berry <jb...@apache.org> writes:
> >I don't think it is a good idea to make a release that does not build
> >cleanly on such a popular platform as GNU/Linux.
>
> Hmm. I don't see that result in the build status? The Linux platforms
> look to be building. Or do you have information not represented there?
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/xerces/XercescBuildStatus
I tried to build the trunk on my Debian box about a week ago. I
happened to have ICU installed so configure auto-decided to use
the ICU message loader. The problem is the install target for this
message loader is not implemented yet. Things got even worse after
I reconfigured autotool scripts with a recent version of libtool.
Now the samples and tests do not link. For more information see
this thread on c-dev:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.xerces-c.devel/8275
-Boris
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Code Synthesis Tools CC
http://www.codesynthesis.com
Open-Source, Cross-Platform C++ XML Data Binding
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Re: [Xerces Wiki] Update of "August2007" by GarethReakes
Posted by James Berry <jb...@apache.org>.
Hey Boris,
On Aug 20, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Boris Kolpackov wrote:
> James Berry <jb...@apache.org> writes:
>
>> It seems like Xerces-C 3.0 doesn't have enough visibility to get the
>> attention it needs to fix build issues. What if we were just to
>> release the ***mned thing and let those who want to use it contribute
>> patches to make it build on those platforms they want it to build
>> on??? I'd love to see 3.0 get out the door, with promise of 3.0.1,
>> etc as needed to fix build issues, than to never have 3.0 get out the
>> door.
>
> I don't think it is a good idea to make a release that does not build
> cleanly on such a popular platform as GNU/Linux.
Hmm. I don't see that result in the build status? The Linux platforms
look to be building. Or do you have information not represented there?
http://wiki.apache.org/xerces/XercescBuildStatus
> The only result will
> be more people migrating away to other parsers (e.g., Expat and
> libxml2).
> Xerces-C++ already has a reputation of being slow and, putting it
> mildly, unnatural to work with. I believe a better way to get more
> visibility is to put some effort and ship a quality release.
I want to put out a good release too. But we've had Xerces-C 3.0
basically ready to go for several years now, held up by the apparent
build problems on "obscure" compilers ;) I'm just looking for a way
out of the log jam. My point is simply that we could wait forever for
perfection, or get something out that will take us down the road to
perfection.
> As I
> mentioned in one of my posts to this list, I am prepared to act as
> a release manager and push for 3.0 after 2.8.0 is out.
And of course your energy would be appreciated on 3.0 as well...
especially as I have precious little available to give beyond a few
cheers from the sidelines.
James
>
>
> -boris
>
> --
> Boris Kolpackov
> Code Synthesis Tools CC
> http://www.codesynthesis.com
> Open-Source, Cross-Platform C++ XML Data Binding
>
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Re: [Xerces Wiki] Update of "August2007" by GarethReakes
Posted by Boris Kolpackov <bo...@codesynthesis.com>.
Hi James,
James Berry <jb...@apache.org> writes:
> It seems like Xerces-C 3.0 doesn't have enough visibility to get the
> attention it needs to fix build issues. What if we were just to
> release the ***mned thing and let those who want to use it contribute
> patches to make it build on those platforms they want it to build
> on??? I'd love to see 3.0 get out the door, with promise of 3.0.1,
> etc as needed to fix build issues, than to never have 3.0 get out the
> door.
I don't think it is a good idea to make a release that does not build
cleanly on such a popular platform as GNU/Linux. The only result will
be more people migrating away to other parsers (e.g., Expat and libxml2).
Xerces-C++ already has a reputation of being slow and, putting it
mildly, unnatural to work with. I believe a better way to get more
visibility is to put some effort and ship a quality release. As I
mentioned in one of my posts to this list, I am prepared to act as
a release manager and push for 3.0 after 2.8.0 is out.
-boris
--
Boris Kolpackov
Code Synthesis Tools CC
http://www.codesynthesis.com
Open-Source, Cross-Platform C++ XML Data Binding
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