Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com>]

Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
which should allow multiple software versions to be installed concurrently.
I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.

Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.

-n

On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
>
> Question I try to figure out
>
> How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> hacking HDP Stack ?
>
> What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix on user
> cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
>
> Thank you,
> S
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>]

Thank you guys for clarification
On May 26, 2015 11:42 PM, "Enis Söztutar" <en...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sergey,
>
> Ambari installs and manages HBase + Phoenix used in AMS (Ambari metric
> service) separately than the Ambari managed HBase+Phoenix stack. Later
> versions of the stack (using Phoenix 4.4) should be possible since Ambari's
> HBase is isolated.
> However, there is a deployment option that will make it so that AMS uses
> the cluster's Phoenix and HBase. That shares the underlying HBase nodes and
> bits.
>
> BTW, AMS is not based on OpenTSDB.
>
> Enis
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Sergey Belousov <
> > sergey.belousov@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support
> > multiple
> > > versions on the same HBase cluster.
> > >
> >
> > I believe that's true. I don't think we're to a point where we can
> isolate
> > Phoenix tables for a specific deployed version. Could be possible with
> > namespaces and a connection concept similar to tenant ID.
> >
> > On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned
> packages,
> > > > which should allow multiple software versions to be installed
> > > concurrently.
> > > > I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
> > > >
> > > > Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
> > > >
> > > > -n
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All
> > > > >
> > > > > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from
> what I
> > > > > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> > > > >
> > > > > Question I try to figure out
> > > > >
> > > > > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0
> without
> > > > > hacking HDP Stack ?
> > > > >
> > > > > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix
> > on
> > > > user
> > > > > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > S
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com>]

Hi Sergey,

Ambari installs and manages HBase + Phoenix used in AMS (Ambari metric
service) separately than the Ambari managed HBase+Phoenix stack. Later
versions of the stack (using Phoenix 4.4) should be possible since Ambari's
HBase is isolated.
However, there is a deployment option that will make it so that AMS uses
the cluster's Phoenix and HBase. That shares the underlying HBase nodes and
bits.

BTW, AMS is not based on OpenTSDB.

Enis

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Sergey Belousov <
> sergey.belousov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support
> multiple
> > versions on the same HBase cluster.
> >
>
> I believe that's true. I don't think we're to a point where we can isolate
> Phoenix tables for a specific deployed version. Could be possible with
> namespaces and a connection concept similar to tenant ID.
>
> On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
> > > which should allow multiple software versions to be installed
> > concurrently.
> > > I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
> > >
> > > Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
> > >
> > > -n
> > >
> > > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> > > > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> > > >
> > > > Question I try to figure out
> > > >
> > > > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> > > > hacking HDP Stack ?
> > > >
> > > > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix
> on
> > > user
> > > > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > S
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com>]

Hi Sergey,

Ambari installs and manages HBase + Phoenix used in AMS (Ambari metric
service) separately than the Ambari managed HBase+Phoenix stack. Later
versions of the stack (using Phoenix 4.4) should be possible since Ambari's
HBase is isolated.
However, there is a deployment option that will make it so that AMS uses
the cluster's Phoenix and HBase. That shares the underlying HBase nodes and
bits.

BTW, AMS is not based on OpenTSDB.

Enis

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Sergey Belousov <
> sergey.belousov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support
> multiple
> > versions on the same HBase cluster.
> >
>
> I believe that's true. I don't think we're to a point where we can isolate
> Phoenix tables for a specific deployed version. Could be possible with
> namespaces and a connection concept similar to tenant ID.
>
> On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
> > > which should allow multiple software versions to be installed
> > concurrently.
> > > I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
> > >
> > > Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
> > >
> > > -n
> > >
> > > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> > > > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> > > >
> > > > Question I try to figure out
> > > >
> > > > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> > > > hacking HDP Stack ?
> > > >
> > > > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix
> on
> > > user
> > > > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > S
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com>]

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support multiple
> versions on the same HBase cluster.
>

I believe that's true. I don't think we're to a point where we can isolate
Phoenix tables for a specific deployed version. Could be possible with
namespaces and a connection concept similar to tenant ID.

On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
> > which should allow multiple software versions to be installed
> concurrently.
> > I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
> >
> > Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
> >
> > -n
> >
> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> > > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> > >
> > > Question I try to figure out
> > >
> > > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> > > hacking HDP Stack ?
> > >
> > > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix on
> > user
> > > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > S
> > >
> >
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Nick Dimiduk <nd...@gmail.com>]

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support multiple
> versions on the same HBase cluster.
>

I believe that's true. I don't think we're to a point where we can isolate
Phoenix tables for a specific deployed version. Could be possible with
namespaces and a connection concept similar to tenant ID.

On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
> > which should allow multiple software versions to be installed
> concurrently.
> > I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
> >
> > Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
> >
> > -n
> >
> > On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> > > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> > >
> > > Question I try to figure out
> > >
> > > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> > > hacking HDP Stack ?
> > >
> > > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix on
> > user
> > > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > S
> > >
> >
>

Re: Ambari 2.0 and phoenix friends forever :) ?

[Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>]

I was more interested in confirming that phoenix will not support multiple
versions on the same HBase cluster.

Right?
On May 26, 2015 4:31 PM, "Nick Dimiduk" <nd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great questions. I think Ambari/HDP stacks support versioned packages,
> which should allow multiple software versions to be installed concurrently.
> I don't know if this is supported by other stack definitions.
>
> Probably this is better answered on the Ambari lists, +user@ambari.
>
> -n
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2015, Sergey Belousov <se...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > So Ambari 2.0 comes with long awaited metrics system what from what I
> > understand seats on top of OpenTSDB and also uses Phoenix 4.2
> >
> > Question I try to figure out
> >
> > How I still can have phoenix 4.4 on my cluster and Ambari 2.0 without
> > hacking HDP Stack ?
> >
> > What is common thinking on how to have different version of phoenix on
> user
> > cluster than what Ambari 2.0 uses for metrics ?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > S
> >
>