Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release

[David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.INVALID>]

During testing RC0, we found a small bug in the regular expression
resolution with KIP-848: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18916.

The fix is really small so I propose to get it in 4.0. The user experience
without it would be bad.

Best,
David

On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:32 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:

> During testing RC0, Bruno found that Kafka Streams examples require Java
> 17 right now, while Kafka Streams itself still supports Java 11.
>
> I opened a PR to fix this: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19052
>
> We hope it can be considered for 4.0 release.
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 2/20/25 11:23 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Please go ahead and merge it to 4.0.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 6:25 PM Andrew Schofield <
> > andrew_schofield_jira@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi David,
> >> I have a small fix that I'd like to back-port to 4.0 for the KIP-932
> >> consumer (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18964).
> >> It changes just the KafkaShareConsumer.java so there's no impact on
> other
> >> components.
> >>
> >> Without this, one of the examples in KIP-932 will not work correctly if
> >> the topic is initially empty. Seems worth fixing
> >> for tire-kickers using the KIP-932 early access in 4.0.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: Chia-Ping Tsai <ch...@apache.org>
> >> Sent: 19 February 2025 16:12
> >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <de...@kafka.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> >>
> >> hi David,
> >>
> >> I've filed a new blocker (KAFKA-18831) to address the Log4j 2 behavior
> >> changes. We've identified the root cause and are preparing a PR, so it
> >> should be fixed this week.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Chia-Ping
> >>
> >> On 2025/01/23 07:15:45 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> >>> hi David
> >>>
> >>> Could you please take a look at
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627? This JIRA ticket
> >> introduces a new system environment variable and (possibly) deprecates
> the
> >> old one. Is it appropriate to include this change in 4.0?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Chia-Ping
> >>>
> >>> On 2025/01/20 11:55:24 David Jacot wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached
> >>>> to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers.
> >>>> Please raise any new blockers in this thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <da...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Matthias,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think KIP-1087 is actually "done".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to
> >>>>>> deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add
> >> a
> >>>>>> WARN log for it via:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82
> >>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option
> >> and
> >>>>>> it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when
> >> the
> >>>>>> deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823
> >> for the
> >>>>>> KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this
> >> ticket?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release
> >> plan [1]
> >>>>>>> and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have
> >> kept
> >>>>>>> KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the
> >> planned
> >>>>>>> KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please
> >> take a
> >>>>>>> look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <
> >> divijvaidya13@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hey David
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at
> >> flaky/failing
> >>>>>>>> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them
> >> this week.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot
> >> <dj...@confluent.io.invalid>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we
> >> must fix in 4.0.
> >>>>>>>>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the
> >> suggested way
> >>>>>>>>> forward. I agree with the proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> >> chia7712@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> hi DJ
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have merged the PR (
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2
> >>>>>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> will keep testing the related e2e
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五
> >> 下午3:53寫道：
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be
> >> possible to
> >>>>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system
> >> tests?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Calvin,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably
> >> small.
> >>>>>>>>> Hence, I
> >>>>>>>>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but
> >> before the
> >>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> >> chia7712@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> hi David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an
> >> unsupported public
> >>>>>>>>>> API
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in KRaft mode.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is
> >> necessary?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big
> >> chunks of
> >>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the
> >> release
> >>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it,
> >> please
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reachout
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the
> >> KIPs
> >>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to
> >> me that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty
> >> large change
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we
> >> have a way
> >>>>>>>>>> back
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew/Divij:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait
> >> for
> >>>>>>>>> Ismael.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <
> >> cmccabe@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996
> >>>>>>>>>> (PreVote)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807>
> >> (Vote RPC
> >>>>>>>>>>>> includes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new
> >>>>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prospective
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_jira@outlook.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method
> >>>>>>>>>>> deprecation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <di...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <de...@kafka.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is
> >> now
> >>>>>>>>>>> accepted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <
> >>>>>>>>>> kitingiao@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to
> >>>>>>>>>> Log4j2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is
> >> now
> >>>>>>>>>> almost
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ready.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.invalid> 於
> >> 2024年11月26日 週二
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 下午4:23寫道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <
> >>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above
> >>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.jacot@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not
> >>>>>>>>> contain
> >>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs
> >>>>>>>>>> too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.jacot@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1993@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after
> >>>>>>>>> postpone
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from
> >>>>>>>>>> ConfgCommand
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.INVALID
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I
> >>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec
> >>>>>>>>>>> 11th.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> djacot@confluent.io>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ideally,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aim
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot
> >>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it, we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa
> >>>>>>>>>> Selenge
> >>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gselenge@redhat.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has
> >>>>>>>>>> now
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension
> >>>>>>>>> anymore.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa
> >>>>>>>>>>> Selenge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gselenge@redhat.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional
> >>>>>>>>>>>> extension for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via
> >>>>>>>>> AdminClient.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no
> >>>>>>>>>> way
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut
> >>>>>>>>>>>> down/fenced.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> month and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> raised a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to
> >>>>>>>>> include
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until
> >>>>>>>>>>>> v5.0.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> djacot@confluent.io>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij
> >>>>>>>>> Vaidya
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidya13@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional
> >>>>>>>>>> extension
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add
> >>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraints
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward
> >>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could
> >>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last
> >>>>>>>>>>> minute
> >>>>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of
> >>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David
> >>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP
> >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen
> >>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chandraprakash
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprakash@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke
> >>>>>>>>> Chen
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release
> >>>>>>>>>> plan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa
> >>>>>>>>>>> Huang
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahuang@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release
> >>>>>>>>>>> manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote)
> >>>>>>>>> listed,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> edit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM
> >>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0
> >>>>>>>>>> is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> November
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should
> >>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is
> >>>>>>>>> ready
> >>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32,
> >>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the
> >>>>>>>>> inclusion
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> believe it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Streams
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this
> >>>>>>>>>>> addition.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>> 於
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週五
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe
> >>>>>>>>>> there's
> >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11,
> >>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does
> >>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> include
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Progress
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by
> >>>>>>>>>>> January.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Well
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55,
> >>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we
> >>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ensure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by
> >>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may
> >>>>>>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to
> >>>>>>>>>> me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release
> >>>>>>>>>> criteria
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is
> >>>>>>>>>> like,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK
> >>>>>>>>>>> removal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> codes in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> ZK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The
> >>>>>>>>>>>> `--zookeeper`
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using
> >>>>>>>>> time-based
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> management
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do"
> >>>>>>>>> tasks
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release
> >>>>>>>>> plan
> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me
> >>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I
> >>>>>>>>>> took
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> >>>>>>>>> 5:02 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge
> >>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release
> >>>>>>>>> manager?)
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> >>>>>>>>>> 1:33 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at
> >>>>>>>>>> 10:11,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> >>>>>>>>> 13:07
> >>>>>>>>>>> José
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <jsancio@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for
> >>>>>>>>> volunteering
> >>>>>>>>>>>> David!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 11:56 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mumrah@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 11:48 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.duggana@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 19:27,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lianetmr@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9:54 a.m.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <jolshan@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7712@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.prat@aiven.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道：
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23,
> >>>>>>>>> 2024
> >>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache
> >>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release

[Lucas Brutschy <lb...@confluent.io.INVALID>]

We discovered a regression in a specific Kafka Streams API. I filed a
ticket here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18917 and a
fix here: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19089. The fix is
small, I would suggest we include this fix in 4.0.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 12:19 PM David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>
> During testing RC0, we found a small bug in the regular expression
> resolution with KIP-848: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18916.
>
> The fix is really small so I propose to get it in 4.0. The user experience
> without it would be bad.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:32 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > During testing RC0, Bruno found that Kafka Streams examples require Java
> > 17 right now, while Kafka Streams itself still supports Java 11.
> >
> > I opened a PR to fix this: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19052
> >
> > We hope it can be considered for 4.0 release.
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On 2/20/25 11:23 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > Please go ahead and merge it to 4.0.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 6:25 PM Andrew Schofield <
> > > andrew_schofield_jira@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi David,
> > >> I have a small fix that I'd like to back-port to 4.0 for the KIP-932
> > >> consumer (https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18964).
> > >> It changes just the KafkaShareConsumer.java so there's no impact on
> > other
> > >> components.
> > >>
> > >> Without this, one of the examples in KIP-932 will not work correctly if
> > >> the topic is initially empty. Seems worth fixing
> > >> for tire-kickers using the KIP-932 early access in 4.0.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> From: Chia-Ping Tsai <ch...@apache.org>
> > >> Sent: 19 February 2025 16:12
> > >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <de...@kafka.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> > >>
> > >> hi David,
> > >>
> > >> I've filed a new blocker (KAFKA-18831) to address the Log4j 2 behavior
> > >> changes. We've identified the root cause and are preparing a PR, so it
> > >> should be fixed this week.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Chia-Ping
> > >>
> > >> On 2025/01/23 07:15:45 Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > >>> hi David
> > >>>
> > >>> Could you please take a look at
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18627? This JIRA ticket
> > >> introduces a new system environment variable and (possibly) deprecates
> > the
> > >> old one. Is it appropriate to include this change in 4.0?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2025/01/20 11:55:24 David Jacot wrote:
> > >>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached
> > >>>> to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers.
> > >>>> Please raise any new blockers in this thread.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> David
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <da...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Matthias,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best,
> > >>>>> David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think KIP-1087 is actually "done".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to
> > >>>>>> deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add
> > >> a
> > >>>>>> WARN log for it via:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>    -
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82
> > >>>>>>    -
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option
> > >> and
> > >>>>>> it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823
> > >> for the
> > >>>>>> KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this
> > >> ticket?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -Matthias
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release
> > >> plan [1]
> > >>>>>>> and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have
> > >> kept
> > >>>>>>> KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the
> > >> planned
> > >>>>>>> KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please
> > >> take a
> > >>>>>>> look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [1]
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <
> > >> divijvaidya13@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hey David
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at
> > >> flaky/failing
> > >>>>>>>> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them
> > >> this week.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot
> > >> <dj...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we
> > >> must fix in 4.0.
> > >>>>>>>>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the
> > >> suggested way
> > >>>>>>>>> forward. I agree with the proposal.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> > >> chia7712@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> hi DJ
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have merged the PR (
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2
> > >>>>>>>>>> )
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> will keep testing the related e2e
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五
> > >> 下午3:53寫道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be
> > >> possible to
> > >>>>>>>>>> already
> > >>>>>>>>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system
> > >> tests?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Calvin,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably
> > >> small.
> > >>>>>>>>> Hence, I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but
> > >> before the
> > >>>>>>>>> code
> > >>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> > >> chia7712@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hi David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an
> > >> unsupported public
> > >>>>>>>>>> API
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in KRaft mode.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is
> > >> necessary?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big
> > >> chunks of
> > >>>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the
> > >> release
> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > >>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it,
> > >> please
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> reachout
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the
> > >> KIPs
> > >>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to
> > >> me that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty
> > >> large change
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we
> > >> have a way
> > >>>>>>>>>> back
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew/Divij:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait
> > >> for
> > >>>>>>>>> Ismael.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <
> > >> cmccabe@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996
> > >>>>>>>>>> (PreVote)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807>
> > >> (Vote RPC
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> includes
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new
> > >>>>>>>>> internal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prospective
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_jira@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method
> > >>>>>>>>>>> deprecation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <di...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <de...@kafka.apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is
> > >> now
> > >>>>>>>>>>> accepted
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <
> > >>>>>>>>>> kitingiao@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to
> > >>>>>>>>>> Log4j2.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is
> > >> now
> > >>>>>>>>>> almost
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ready.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dj...@confluent.io.invalid> 於
> > >> 2024年11月26日 週二
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 下午4:23寫道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <
> > >>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above
> > >>>>>>>>> into
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.jacot@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not
> > >>>>>>>>> contain
> > >>>>>>>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs
> > >>>>>>>>>> too.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.jacot@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1993@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after
> > >>>>>>>>> postpone
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from
> > >>>>>>>>>> ConfgCommand
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.INVALID
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I
> > >>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wait
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 11th.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> djacot@confluent.io>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ideally,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aim
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot
> > >>>>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it, we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa
> > >>>>>>>>>> Selenge
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gselenge@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has
> > >>>>>>>>>> now
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension
> > >>>>>>>>> anymore.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Selenge <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gselenge@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> extension for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via
> > >>>>>>>>> AdminClient.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> This is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> because
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no
> > >>>>>>>>>> way
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> down/fenced.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> month and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also
> > >>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> raised a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to
> > >>>>>>>>> include
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> make
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> v5.0.0.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> djacot@confluent.io>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij
> > >>>>>>>>> Vaidya
> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidya13@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional
> > >>>>>>>>>> extension
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add
> > >>>>>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraints
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could
> > >>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last
> > >>>>>>>>>>> minute
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> very
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of
> > >>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David
> > >>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen
> > >>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chandraprakash
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprakash@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to
> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open
> > >>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> voting
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke
> > >>>>>>>>> Chen
> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release
> > >>>>>>>>>> plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Huang
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahuang@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release
> > >>>>>>>>>>> manager
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote)
> > >>>>>>>>> listed,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> edit
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM
> > >>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0
> > >>>>>>>>>> is.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> November
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should
> > >>>>>>>>> make
> > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> into
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is
> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>>>>>>>>> by
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32,
> > >>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chi
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the
> > >>>>>>>>> inclusion
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> believe it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Streams
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this
> > >>>>>>>>>>> addition.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>> 於
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週五
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe
> > >>>>>>>>>> there's
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11,
> > >>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does
> > >>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> include
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs)?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Progress
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by
> > >>>>>>>>>>> January.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Well
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we
> > >>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ensure
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by
> > >>>>>>>>>> code
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> already
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to
> > >>>>>>>>>> me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release
> > >>>>>>>>>> criteria
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is
> > >>>>>>>>>> like,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK
> > >>>>>>>>>>> removal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest
> > >>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> codes in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related
> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> open
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> `--zookeeper`
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using
> > >>>>>>>>> time-based
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> management
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do"
> > >>>>>>>>> tasks
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> track
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release
> > >>>>>>>>> plan
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me
> > >>>>>>>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if
> > >>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> could
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I
> > >>>>>>>>>> took
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> > >>>>>>>>> 5:02 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showuon@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge
> > >>>>>>>>>> change
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release
> > >>>>>>>>> manager?)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> > >>>>>>>>>> 1:33 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmccabe@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at
> > >>>>>>>>>> 10:11,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> > >>>>>>>>> 13:07
> > >>>>>>>>>>> José
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> <jsancio@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for
> > >>>>>>>>> volunteering
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> David!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 11:56 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mumrah@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 11:48 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.duggana@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 19:27,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lianetmr@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9:54 a.m.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <jolshan@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024
> > >>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7712@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.prat@aiven.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道：
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23,
> > >>>>>>>>> 2024
> > >>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <djacot@confluent.io.invalid
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache
> > >>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source
> > >>>>>>>>>> Engineering
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> josep.prat@aiven.io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>    |
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +491715557497
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland
> > >>>>>>>>>>> GmbH*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 10117
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlin
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Oskari
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saarenmaa,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannu
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottenburg,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HRB
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 209739
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >