Re: [DISCUSS] Moving to apache-iceberg Slack workspace

[Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io>]

Okay, I’ve deployed the updated community page
<https://iceberg.apache.org/community/>. Please let me know if anyone has
problems with the link! The PR with these changes is #2904
<https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2904>.

I also went through the list of members and updated all of the PMC members
that had joined the community to admins. Not everyone was there, but I can
add more people as they sign up. Just let me know!

Ryan

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:43 PM Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io> wrote:

> Great, thanks for the help here!
>
> It sounds like there's consensus to move to the apache-iceberg community
> since the only responses have been positive so far. So let's plan on moving.
>
> Carl made me an admin, so I'll invite the other PMC members as admins and
> I'll also create an invite link that doesn't expire and update the site
> with it.
>
> Thanks, everyone! Good to get this sorted out.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:59 AM Piotr Findeisen <pi...@starburstdata.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was told the screenshot in my previous email doesn't show up, so
>> sharing it as link instead
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/findepi/68e6a141d6ea06049c33e85c5ccd5835#gistcomment-3835460
>>
>>
>> Best
>> PF
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:13 PM Piotr Findeisen <pi...@starburstdata.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  @Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io> , where can one find at least a temporary
>>> signup link for apache-iceberg slack?
>>>
>>> Eduard, you can create a link that does not expire. You still need a new
>>> link every 2 thousand users joining.
>>>  Below is an example what I see when creating a new invite link.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> PF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:51 PM Eduard Tudenhoefner <ed...@dremio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The default invite link expires after 30 days, that's why I was looking
>>>> for alternatives. Maybe a slack admin can check if the invite link can be
>>>> configured to not expire.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 11:51 Piotr Findeisen <pi...@starburstdata.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> you should be able to create a semi-permanent invite link.
>>>>> in Trino, we are  almost successful with a static link (see
>>>>> https://trino.io/slack.html)
>>>>> admittedly they still break on some occasions (not very often). I
>>>>> would imagine a custom sign up form could have some issues from time to
>>>>> time as well, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, i haven't seen an invite link for apache-iceberg
>>>>> slack workspace yet, unless "https://join.slack.com/t/apache-iceberg/"
>>>>> was supposed to be it.
>>>>> For Trino slack the link is much longer, and looks like "
>>>>> https://join.slack.com/t/trinodb/shared_invite/zt-sbw8lqer-DL3zksjpm6fyIsSQz74MBA
>>>>> ".
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> PF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:29 PM Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a great idea, Jacques. I agree that the Slack community should
>>>>>> be controlled by the PMC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:41 AM Jacques Nadeau <
>>>>>> jacquesnadeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My one recommendation would be that if you go off Apache infra that
>>>>>>> you make sure all the PMC members are admins of the new account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 8:35 AM Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No problem, the site hasn't been deployed yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also looked a bit into the invite issue for the apache-iceberg
>>>>>>>> community and I think we should be able to set something up so that people
>>>>>>>> can invite themselves. Thanks for raising this as an issue, Piotr. I didn't
>>>>>>>> realize that the shared invite URLs expire quickly. We'll either keep that
>>>>>>>> refreshed or set up a self-invite form.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 8:23 AM Russell Spitzer <
>>>>>>>> russell.spitzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 Also I merged the change, sorry if that was premature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Eduard Tudenhoefner <
>>>>>>>>> eduard@dremio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 moving to the apache-iceberg
>>>>>>>>> <https://apache-iceberg.slack.com/> slack workspace
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:16 PM Ryan Blue <bl...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we can update the Slack link. But we want to give everyone a
>>>>>>>>>> chance to speak up either in support or not before we make changes to how
>>>>>>>>>> we recommend communicating in the community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you're in favor of moving to the apache-iceberg Slack space,
>>>>>>>>>> please speak up!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 12:51 AM Eduard Tudenhoefner <
>>>>>>>>>> eduard@dremio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Could we just update the slack link to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://join.slack.com/t/apache-iceberg/ on the website (see
>>>>>>>>>>> PR#2882 <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2882>)?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:13 AM Jack Ye <ye...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any updates on this? Given the fact of the currently broken
>>>>>>>>>>>> invitation link, I think we should move asap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jack Ye
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 2:15 AM Piotr Findeisen <
>>>>>>>>>>>> piotr@starburstdata.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have opinion which Slack workspace this is in, as long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it's easy to join.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manual joining process is not healthy for sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the apache-iceberg is currently limited to @apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails, which some people do not have (e.g. i do not).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you be sharing an invite link or something?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 9:48 PM Ryan Blue <bl...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few weeks ago, we talked about whether to use a Slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace for Iceberg or whether to continue using the ASF's workspace. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time, we thought it was possible for anyone to invite themselves to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF's Slack, so we thought it would be best to use the common one. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the self-invite link broke recently, we found out that ASF infra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't want to fix the link anymore because of spammers, which leaves us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without a way for people to join us on Slack without requesting an invite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that requesting an invite is too much friction for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone that wants to join this community, so I propose we reconsider our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous decision and move to apache-iceberg.slack.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any objections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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