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Posted to dev@lucy.apache.org by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> on 2010/07/24 18:07:12 UTC
Set up for new mailing lists
Greets,
I'm about to make the INFRA request to migrate our mailing lists. For new
projects, this step is documented at...
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists
Migration is a little different. Infra will set up the new lists, copy all
subscriber information, and set up forwards for the old lists. This is how
it is done when e.g. a project graduates from incubation:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2656 (Nutch migration to TLP)
I note that it is possible to set up subject prefixes:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2777 (Zeta dev prefixing)
Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
headers, I imagine he does too. :) It is possible to filter based on
recipient, but anyone who has set up such filters is about to have them break
as the mailing list address changes from @lucene.a.o to @infrastructor.a.o --
and during a Lucy migration to TLP, such filtering would break once again.
I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:
lucy-dev@incubator [lucy-dev]
lucy-users@incubator [lucy-users]
lucy-commits@incubator [lucy-commits]
lucy-private@incubator [lucy-private]
Additionally, the moderators for the existing Lucy lists are myself and Dave
Balmain (who's inactive). For the new lists, we should have more than just
me.
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists
Apache mailing lists require volunteer moderators. New moderators can be
changed later but at least one volunteer is required before the mailing
lists can be set up. Moderation is a reasonably easy task though
moderators may want to set up spam filtering. Having at least three
moderators is recommended to spread the load.
Volunteers? It hasn't been a heavy burden.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: [Lucy] Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Ehrm,
Guys, I would recommend just filing INFRA requests here [1]. INFRA can set up all the mailing lists below for you and are the only ones with Apache karma necessary to do so.
I'd be happy to file the tickets, if you guys are OK with that.
Cheers,
Chris
[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
On 7/24/10 9:12 AM, "Peter Karman" <pe...@peknet.com> wrote:
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 7/24/10 11:07 AM:
> Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
> and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
> headers, I imagine he does too. :)
heh. procmail++
# prefix Lucy dev
:0 Hf
* To: lucy-dev@lucene.apache.org
* !^Subject:.*\[Lucy\].*
| sed -e 's/^[sS]ubject:[[:space:]]\+/Subject: [Lucy] /'
>
> I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:
>
> lucy-dev@incubator [lucy-dev]
> lucy-users@incubator [lucy-users]
> lucy-commits@incubator [lucy-commits]
> lucy-private@incubator [lucy-private]
>
+1
>
> Volunteers? It hasn't been a heavy burden.
>
>
I'm happy to.
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter@peknet.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: [Lucy] Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Peter Karman <pe...@peknet.com>.
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 7/24/10 11:07 AM:
> Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
> and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
> headers, I imagine he does too. :)
heh. procmail++
# prefix Lucy dev
:0 Hf
* To: lucy-dev@lucene.apache.org
* !^Subject:.*\[Lucy\].*
| sed -e 's/^[sS]ubject:[[:space:]]\+/Subject: [Lucy] /'
>
> I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:
>
> lucy-dev@incubator [lucy-dev]
> lucy-users@incubator [lucy-users]
> lucy-commits@incubator [lucy-commits]
> lucy-private@incubator [lucy-private]
>
+1
>
> Volunteers? It hasn't been a heavy burden.
>
>
I'm happy to.
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter@peknet.com
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Michael McCandless <lu...@mikemccandless.com>.
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
> Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?
Yes please use lucene@ for me. Thanks!
Mike
Re: [Lucy] Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
simon DOT willnauer AT googlemail DOT com
thx
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Peter Karman <pe...@peknet.com> wrote:
> Marvin Humphrey wrote on 7/25/10 3:07 PM:
>
>>
>> peter AT peknet DOT com
>
> yes, please.
>
>
> --
> Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter@peknet.com
>
Re: [Lucy] Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Peter Karman <pe...@peknet.com>.
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 7/25/10 3:07 PM:
>
> peter AT peknet DOT com
yes, please.
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter@peknet.com
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Email below works great for me, thanks Marvin.
Cheers,
Chris
On 7/25/10 1:07 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:35:29PM +0200, Simon Willnauer wrote:
> If one is needed sign me up!
Thanks and welcome back, Simon. :)
When Doug requested the original Lucy lists
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-832), we used my marvin@a.o email
address as a listmod, but that's aparently not a requirement and this time I'm
going to use my rectangular.com address. It's slightly more convenient that
way for certain actions.
With that in mind, what addresses would you all like to use for list
moderation? Your workaday email accounts?
peter AT peknet DOT com
simon.willnauer AT gmail DOT com
chris.a.mattmann AT jpl DOT nasa DOT gov
???? AT mikemccandless DOT com
Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?
Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:35:29PM +0200, Simon Willnauer wrote:
> If one is needed sign me up!
Thanks and welcome back, Simon. :)
When Doug requested the original Lucy lists
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-832), we used my marvin@a.o email
address as a listmod, but that's aparently not a requirement and this time I'm
going to use my rectangular.com address. It's slightly more convenient that
way for certain actions.
With that in mind, what addresses would you all like to use for list
moderation? Your workaday email accounts?
peter AT peknet DOT com
simon.willnauer AT gmail DOT com
chris.a.mattmann AT jpl DOT nasa DOT gov
???? AT mikemccandless DOT com
Mike, you're subscribed to this list using the lucene@mikemccandless alias.
Do you want to use that, mikemccand@a.o, or something else?
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
If one is needed sign me up!
simon
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Michael McCandless
<lu...@mikemccandless.com> wrote:
>
> I can also be a moderator.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
>>
>> Great, thank you. :)
>>
>>> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
>>> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
>>> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
>>> fwd...don't mind me!
>>
>> I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets. However, as with our Mentors, I'm
>> cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
>> like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
>> requests, all our listmods. That way they only have to do the work once and
>> we don't have to keep going back for more.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
>
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Michael McCandless <lu...@mikemccandless.com>.
I can also be a moderator.
Mike
On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
>
> Great, thank you. :)
>
>> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
>> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
>> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
>> fwd...don't mind me!
>
> I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets. However, as with our Mentors, I'm
> cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
> like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
> requests, all our listmods. That way they only have to do the work once and
> we don't have to keep going back for more.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Sounds good to me...
On 7/24/10 10:22 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
Great, thank you. :)
> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
> fwd...don't mind me!
I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets. However, as with our Mentors, I'm
cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
requests, all our listmods. That way they only have to do the work once and
we don't have to keep going back for more.
Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:07:57AM -0700, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
Great, thank you. :)
> Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys
> were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try
> and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move
> fwd...don't mind me!
I like to handle filing the INFRA tickets. However, as with our Mentors, I'm
cognizant of the Infrastructure team's volunteer time -- so if possible, I'd
like to give them a single ticket with all our lists, all our customization
requests, all our listmods. That way they only have to do the work once and
we don't have to keep going back for more.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Set up for new mailing lists
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
I'd be happy to be a list mod for Lucy.
Oh, also it wasn't clear to me from the reply to this mail whether you guys were about to file INFRA tickets to get the mailing lists set up or to try and do that yourself. It looks like you know what to do, so please +1, move fwd...don't mind me!
Cheers,
Chris
On 7/24/10 9:07 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
Greets,
I'm about to make the INFRA request to migrate our mailing lists. For new
projects, this step is documented at...
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists
Migration is a little different. Infra will set up the new lists, copy all
subscriber information, and set up forwards for the old lists. This is how
it is done when e.g. a project graduates from incubation:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2656 (Nutch migration to TLP)
I note that it is possible to set up subject prefixes:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2777 (Zeta dev prefixing)
Subject prefixes are not a tradition for Lucene sub-projects, but I prefer it,
and since Peter goes so far as to manually insert "[Lucy]" into our subject
headers, I imagine he does too. :) It is possible to filter based on
recipient, but anyone who has set up such filters is about to have them break
as the mailing list address changes from @lucene.a.o to @infrastructor.a.o --
and during a Lucy migration to TLP, such filtering would break once again.
I propose subject prefixes matching the list names:
lucy-dev@incubator [lucy-dev]
lucy-users@incubator [lucy-users]
lucy-commits@incubator [lucy-commits]
lucy-private@incubator [lucy-private]
Additionally, the moderators for the existing Lucy lists are myself and Dave
Balmain (who's inactive). For the new lists, we should have more than just
me.
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#request-mailing-lists
Apache mailing lists require volunteer moderators. New moderators can be
changed later but at least one volunteer is required before the mailing
lists can be set up. Moderation is a reasonably easy task though
moderators may want to set up spam filtering. Having at least three
moderators is recommended to spread the load.
Volunteers? It hasn't been a heavy burden.
Marvin Humphrey
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
Phone: +1 (818) 354-8810
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++