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[jira] Commented: (TRINIDAD-845) choice between IFrame-PPR or XHR should be possible

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Michael Kutsch commented on TRINIDAD-845:
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We have the same problem. I am working for an insurance company and our new "calculator for insurances" will run on trinidad and use PPR. Since internally we use IE6 we cannot switch to XHR based newer versions. The calculator will be used by resellers too. I don't see that we can get them all to use IE7 or Firefox.

The choice of the communication mechanism PPR or XHR is very important.

> choice between IFrame-PPR or  XHR should be possible
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TRINIDAD-845
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-845
>             Project: MyFaces Trinidad
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 1.2.2-core
>            Reporter: Jan Görß
>
> It should be possible to change the interactive server communication between IFrame-PPR and XHR.
> Our customers are banking houses and they define the security constrains  (IE5.5+ with deactived ActiveX).
> IE 5.5  - 6 are the problem.
> IE 7 has a possibility to run XHR without ActiveX.
> At the beginning of our projects we decide to take Trinidad because of it's IFrame-PPR solution and our WebApps must run without AJAX.
> I think other users of trinidad have the same problem also.
> Taken from users@myfaces.apache.org
> Hi,
> I know all the "issues" with not able to use IE w/ activated ActiveX.
> Sure, a solution is possible, but it is (as always) a matter of time.
> Are you willing to help out on this?
> I'll also check our internal requirements, since we have also customers, that may "upgrade"
> to Trinidad, coming from ADF Faces 10.x.
> Can you file an issue in our jira w/ some details, that we don't forget it?
> Thx,
> Matthias
> On Nov 28, 2007 1:38 PM, Goerss, Jan <ja...@hypoport.de> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that our customers are banking houses.
> > They define the security constrains (IE5.5+ with deactivated ActiveX).
> >
> > We use Trinidad 1.2.1 and we can't switch to latest version of Trinidad with AJAX.
> >
> > I hope, a fallback option is possible, otherwise we can't use the latest version of Trinidad and our project can work with Trinidad version 1.2.1 only.
> > The problems are with this constrain:
> >   - we get no bugfixing more
> >   - we can't use new components and features (new releases)
> >   - we can't use new trinidad development
> >
> >
> > I hope a solution is possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: mwessendorf@gmail.com [mailto:mwessendorf@gmail.com] Im Auftrag 
> > von Matthias Wessendorf
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 11:04
> > An: MyFaces Discussion
> > Betreff: Re: Trinidad Ajax
> >
> >
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > yes, we switched to XHR with the release of 1.0.2 (and 1.2.2).
> > There is no way to use IFrame instead of XHR.
> >
> > This will remain, because Ajax is pretty common these days and other 
> > JSF-libs have that as well.
> >
> > Providing an option to "fallback" might be possible, but not sure if 
> > that will be done.
> >
> > Is "IE 5.5" really still supported by M$?
> > If not, I'd strongly recommend to kick that guy out.
> > Sure... only the IE7 doesn't require ActiveX for XHR, but IE does.
> >
> > I am not aware of a solution for that.
> >
> > Do you have any ideas ?
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2007 10:48 AM, Goerss, Jan <ja...@hypoport.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > we noticed that MyFaces Trinidad is changing the PPR mechanism 
> > > towards real AJAX and the XmlHttpRequest object.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are using Trinidad is the finance sector. There it is normal that 
> > > the clients use the Internet Explorer with deactivated ActiveX.
> > >
> > > Furthermore they use not the newest browsers, so we although need to 
> > > support at least IE 5.5+.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At the beginning of our project we decide to take Trinidad because 
> > > of it's IFrame-PPR solution.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems as if it is not possible to choose between the two modes: 
> > > PPR or AJAX.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Will this remain? If so why? Otherwise, we think that a lot of 
> > > Trinidad library users will encounter problems with their clientsJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

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